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Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 5:05 am
by HKPackFan
Couple of interesting tidbits floating around.

Clay Matthews:

One thing I read is Clay is practicing quite a bit at ILB. I think this is a good idea. Clay got a real short crash course on ILB and had to learn on the run. It was a surprise to other teams and it worked. My only fear was during the offseason teams would look at the mistakes Clay made as a rookie at ILB and try to exploit his mistakes since he may not know the nuances of the ILB position.

I think that fear is mitigated with him already having half a season of experience and now an offseason at ILB.

I'm also aware the plan is he will be a parttime ILB, and I love that. I hope they keep him moving all over the place and making it a chessmatch and giving OC's headaches as to how to guess where Clay is on the field.



Tramon Williams heir apparent:

Not a great start for Casey Hayward. He's got a foot injury and is on the sideline. Damnit Casey. I hope this is not a sign the damn injury bug that has followed Casey around. Shows a ton of talent but unreliable coz of his health, he's been out all offseason. Im pretty sure this is a contract year for Casey. On top of that Randall still has a gimpy ankle so only did individual work.

So we had Goodson on 1st team reps, and Rollins on the 2nd team reps.

2015 triple ACL's all practiced:
Abby, Barclay, Mulumba all did individual work. Looks like they are on schedule to practice full come TC. Abby even did some Punt Return drills. Looks he's in the running for the return game. Cobb, Hyde, Rollins, Abby took part in a new punt drill where you already have a ball in your left hand and you need to catch a punt with your right. Rollins muffed it the first few times.

Rookies Absent:
Ty Montgomery is missing everything. Him and Hundley are in LA for the NFL rookie event, and then Ty still can't participate coz Stanford is still in session. WTF Stanford is up with your late ass class schedule going into June!? Damnit Stanford. :evil: Ty's missed Rookie camp, now will miss OTA's and wont take part in anything until Mandatory Minicamp 16th to 18th. UDFA James Vaughters is in the same boat being a Stanford kid.

Other Absent/sidelines:

Jordy had minor hip Surgery, seems like he cleared up some stuff and won't bother him, he was on the sidelines. Peppers was in yesterday but not today due to illness. Nick Perry something about a shoulder hurting him last season, Mike Neal and Josh Boyd were also out but I don't have info on that yet.

Back in Action:
BJ Raji was a full participant at the nose, took part in team drills and everything. Looks like that Bicep is OK. Guion played end.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:43 pm
by Newz
HKPackFan wrote:
Tramon Williams heir apparent:

Not a great start for Casey Hayward. He's got a foot injury and is on the sideline. Damnit Casey. I hope this is not a sign the damn injury bug that has followed Casey around. Shows a ton of talent but unreliable coz of his health, he's been out all offseason. Im pretty sure this is a contract year for Casey. On top of that Randall still has a gimpy ankle so only did individual work.

So we had Goodson on 1st team reps, and Rollins on the 2nd team reps.


This could end up being bad.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 2:45 pm
by MickeyDavis
Coach Mike McCarthy doesn’t see any injuries nagging anyone on the roster long term right now, but cornerback Casey Hayward is dealing with a foot injury. The Packers cornerback doesn’t expect to return until training camp.

“I’ll probably take it easy into camp right now,” Hayward said. “I have a minor foot thing right now. We’ll probably take it easy into camp.”

He said the foot “flared up” on him early in the off-season and they’re merely staying cautious through OTA’s and minicamp.

The 5-foot-11, 192-pound Hayward managed to stay healthy the entire 2014 season, finishing with 42 tackles, seven break-ups and three interceptions. The year prior, he missed all but 87 snaps with a recurring hamstring issue. Into this contract year, he's expecting to start opposite Sam Shields at cornerback in Green Bay's defense. For now, he must wait.

Second-year cornerback Demetri Goodson lined up with the No. 1 defense with Hayward out.

“He’s gotten better,” cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt Jr. said of Goodson. “As a group, we have a long way to go. He’s gotten better. I need to see more. But I’m happy with what he’s done. He works hard. He challenges routes.”

Elsewhere, outside linebackers Julius Peppers (illness), Nick Perry and Mike Neal all didn’t practice, in addition to defensive lineman Josh Boyd. The team doesn’t need to disclose injuries through OTA's, but Perry (shoulder) and Boyd (knee) did battle through injuries last season.

Boyd wouldn’t say exactly what he’s dealing with but hopes to be cleared by training camp.

“It’s just a little minor thing,” Boyd said. “We’re going through some rehab right now to make sure I’m ready to go. Right now, I'm doing what they tell me."

Wide receiver Jordy Nelson stretched with teammates before heading into the Don Hutson Center. Afterward, he downplayed his off-season hip surgery.

The three players who tore their ACL’s last year — wide receiver Jared Abbrederis, tackle Don Barclay and outside linebacker Andy Mulumba — all participated in individual drills, while sitting out 11-on-11 work. Meanwhile, rookies Ty Montgomery and Brett Hundley are in Los Angeles for the NFLPA rookie premiere.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 3:33 pm
by eagle13
Still feel Guion to join Daniels as starting DE and backup NT behind Raji in 3-4

With that DL and Matthews and Barrington at ILB and Perry and Peppers at OLB on run downs - our run defense should be mega better.

Think Hyde starts at outside CB opposite Shields - he's a tad slow but solid.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri May 29, 2015 4:39 pm
by jimmybones
eagle13 wrote:Still feel Guion to join Daniels as starting DE and backup NT behind Raji in 3-4

With that DL and Matthews and Barrington at ILB and Perry and Peppers at OLB on run downs - our run defense should be mega better.



This would be a lot like when we had Pickett and Raji both starting. I'm ok with it on early/run downs. With any LB unit we trot out there we should have guys that can get to the QB and having a line that can eat up blockers will be nice. I really, really wanted Datone to become an every down stud. Hopefully he can still have an impact in sub packages if he's not starting in base. We need 5-6 DL as a part of the regular rotation anyways. Raji-Daniels-Guion-Jones is a good start.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Tue Jun 2, 2015 12:36 am
by Profound23
Newz wrote:
HKPackFan wrote:
Tramon Williams heir apparent:

Not a great start for Casey Hayward. He's got a foot injury and is on the sideline. Damnit Casey. I hope this is not a sign the damn injury bug that has followed Casey around. Shows a ton of talent but unreliable coz of his health, he's been out all offseason. Im pretty sure this is a contract year for Casey. On top of that Randall still has a gimpy ankle so only did individual work.

So we had Goodson on 1st team reps, and Rollins on the 2nd team reps.


This could end up being bad.



I would be worried if Ted didn't spend the first and second round picks on DBs and we have Micah Hyde. If Casey can't step up to the plate we need to find out this year.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Wed Jun 3, 2015 12:16 pm
by MickeyDavis
MM's presser

On Damarious Randall getting back... Didn't really study him but it's good to get him into the team stuff and past the individual. This is the same it is every year, the installation part. But it's great to have all those guys out there. Get everybody exposed to everything they need for training camp.

On getting Montgomery up to speed... Just sticking to the format in place. We'll have a plan when he gets back here. Stanford on the quarter schedule.

On Janis' development... Jeff Janis has definitely been moving forward. I thought he definitely came on last year. Still some things fundamentally he needs to work on but any time you get reps with the 1's and Aaron Rodgers, it definitely boosts your confidence.

On gauging rookies' progress... The mental, the cohesiveness they're able to perform with their teammates. By position, by group. On a personal level, you're teaching them their job responsibility and things they need to do every day. We've had four practices and they're doing a good job. It usually takes a week or two for your team to learn how to practice. This is a CBA practice, not real football yet.

On B.J. Raji... I think B.J. is in a great place. Last year was his best training camp and he's in great shape. Very bright, very in tune. B.J. looks great.

On watching Lacy's reps now... We're not really pounding this time of year. As far as Eddie's situation, you get as much work as you can. Fine-tune the details. There are changes to the running back position -- technique, footwork -- making sure he's up to speed with that.

On Tolzien's strides... Great strides. Made big changes to his fundamentals, you can see it in his footwork and now he can apply it all to his knowledge. I think Scott's off to an excellent start. It's no surprise. He's definitely done a great job taking to the coaching, techniques and applied to his throwing motion.

On strides Demetri Goodson has made... He jumps out at me on special teams. At corner, he's still learning more on the identification and what the guy on the other side of the line of scrimmage is doing. He's making progress; he's definitely moving forward.

On Peppers... He put a lot of time into this last year. He's a student of the game. He's a true professional in every aspect of our program, whether it's the weight room or classroom.

On Shields speaking up more... Leadership is a huge part of your locker room culture. You can't assign leadership. You emphasize, educate anything you can to help locker room improve. Sam has stepped up and been comfortable taking the initiative to do so.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2015 2:18 pm
by Ron Swanson
While it's good to see Abby and Montgomery getting talked up as future contributors, I'm still pretty high on Jeff Janis. I think he settles in as the #4 in the pecking order. Montgomery is still a year away and will contribute mostly on special teams.

I love me some Jared, but unfortunately, I think he's on the outside looking in. The injury really screwed him out of some valuable reps and development time.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Thu Jun 4, 2015 2:41 pm
by LUKE23
I think Adams blows up this year. Our offense is going to be crazy.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2015 2:01 am
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
LUKE23 wrote:I think Adams blows up this year. Our offense is going to be crazy.

+1 to Adams part. He'll be our #1 in a year or two imo.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2015 7:44 am
by HKPackFan
http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2015/06/03/confident-goodson-eyes-larger-role-in-defense/28403273/

Good article on Goodson. I was pretty pissed when kept him over Rolle who went on to have 3 INTs with Texans while I still had memories of Goodson looking awful in preseason.


Sounds like they are expecting him to be the ACE on special teams Bush used to be and keep grooming him for corner depth.

Talk about Whitt having his work cut out for him. A few years ago he had a guy named Shields who was a WR for 3 years and only 1 year at Corner in College. Last year he's handed a Basketball player in Goodson. Now he's been handed another 4 year bball player with only a year DB experience in Rollins. The people who complain about Randall playing mostly safety in college, I'm sure Whitt looks at them and says...PSSHHH...At least he played the correct sport!!

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Fri Jun 5, 2015 6:19 pm
by raysbookclub
Ron Swanson wrote:While it's good to see Abby and Montgomery getting talked up as future contributors, I'm still pretty high on Jeff Janis. I think he settles in as the #4 in the pecking order. Montgomery is still a year away and will contribute mostly on special teams.

I love me some Jared, but unfortunately, I think he's on the outside looking in. The injury really screwed him out of some valuable reps and development time.


Agree with all this. I think Montgomery has a chance to be consistently on the gameday 46-man roster even as the #5 receiver though, because he's a prime candidate to do kickoff returns and maybe punt returns. Though I do like Hyde on punt returns.

Re: Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Sun Jun 7, 2015 4:42 am
by HKPackFan
books wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:While it's good to see Abby and Montgomery getting talked up as future contributors, I'm still pretty high on Jeff Janis. I think he settles in as the #4 in the pecking order. Montgomery is still a year away and will contribute mostly on special teams.

I love me some Jared, but unfortunately, I think he's on the outside looking in. The injury really screwed him out of some valuable reps and development time.


Agree with all this. I think Montgomery has a chance to be consistently on the gameday 46-man roster even as the #5 receiver though, because he's a prime candidate to do kickoff returns and maybe punt returns. Though I do like Hyde on punt returns.


Hyde is somehow sneaky good on STs. He doesn't have the same speed as others but still seems to find a way. Im super excited to see what Ty can do in the return game.

Re: Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Sun Jun 7, 2015 2:58 pm
by RRyder823
Ron Swanson wrote:While it's good to see Abby and Montgomery getting talked up as future contributors, I'm still pretty high on Jeff Janis. I think he settles in as the #4 in the pecking order. Montgomery is still a year away and will contribute mostly on special teams.

I love me some Jared, but unfortunately, I think he's on the outside looking in. The injury really screwed him out of some valuable reps and development time.


Janis could wind up #4 and I wouldn't be shocked. He could also be on the final cut list and I wouldn't be shocked either. As of right now I'm not enamored with any WR after Adams. Some intriguing prospects yes but as of right now they're all strait potential no production. It'll be interesting to see how it shakes out.

I'm with Luke though Adams will be big time this year. Even if both Cobb and Jordy both stay healthy all year, and damn I hope they do, I'm thinking 700-800 yards and 6-8 TDs if he's strictly the #3 all year and damn if i wouldn't take those numbers from my number 3 WR.

Re: Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Sun Jun 7, 2015 3:00 pm
by RRyder823
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I think Adams blows up this year. Our offense is going to be crazy.

+1 to Adams part. He'll be our #1 in a year or two imo.


Yeah no. I'm as starch a Adams supporter there is but making that claim says you think he's going to leap frog not one but two pro bowl level recievers.... Going to have to respectfully disagree on that one

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Mon Jun 8, 2015 5:33 am
by HKPackFan
It seems they are toying around with the idea of moving Shields to the opposite side as right handed QBs often attack the D's left side more.

It's an interesting idea, I guess it just gives us more options on D.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2015/06/05/shields-ready-packers-lead-corner/28559849/

Re: Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Mon Jun 8, 2015 10:48 am
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
RRyder823 wrote:
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:I think Adams blows up this year. Our offense is going to be crazy.

+1 to Adams part. He'll be our #1 in a year or two imo.


Yeah no. I'm as starch a Adams supporter there is but making that claim says you think he's going to leap frog not one but two pro bowl level recievers.... Going to have to respectfully disagree on that one


In 2 years, Davante will have been in the league for three years, the third of which is typically a "break out" year for WRs. Jordy will also be 32. I don't think it's all that crazy to consider.

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Mon Jun 8, 2015 3:17 pm
by Kerb Hohl
I'm a very starch Adams supporter as well. #Argo

Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Mon Jun 8, 2015 3:36 pm
by crkone
http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/ ... 31131.html

Thornton article. Says all the right things. Gained a good amount of weight and may be able to hold the edge now. He has to stand out to make the team I'd think.

Re: Re: Re: Packers OTA's

Posted: Mon Jun 8, 2015 10:18 pm
by RRyder823
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:
RRyder823 wrote:
PkrsBcksGphsMqt wrote:+1 to Adams part. He'll be our #1 in a year or two imo.


Yeah no. I'm as starch a Adams supporter there is but making that claim says you think he's going to leap frog not one but two pro bowl level recievers.... Going to have to respectfully disagree on that one


In 2 years, Davante will have been in the league for three years, the third of which is typically a "break out" year for WRs. Jordy will also be 32. I don't think it's all that crazy to consider.


In 2 years possibly. I was going more off the part of it being possible in one