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MM always talks about the growth from year 1 to year 2. Last year we got some fantastic contributions from our rookie draft class.

It made me pretty confident and hopeful these players would get even better with a year under their belt and really help this team move forward in year 2. Yet midway through the season I feel like our big contributors from last year are all struggling, some regressing.


HHCD had a mixed rookie year but was better than what we had previously, had some decent games, had a couple picks towards the end and seemed to solidify the spot opposite Burnett. WTF happened this year? He's looked like trash. Like he doesn't know he's doing, and then he's talking some **** to Peppers/Raji? Not that Peppers/Raji are doing much, but dude you are sucking dick out on the field, look at yourself before talking to anyone else.

Adams - He came on strong towards the end of the year and I thought he was going to be part of a dynamic group but injuries have screwed that up, but even when he's been in the game he'll make 1 good catch, drop a couple important ones, and be invisible for the rest of the game. How did he light up New England and Dallas last year?

Dick Rodgers - He showed some potential and while unsure of his ceiling coz he's not a burner, he still seemed like a big upgrade over quarless the starter. Can't believe that was possible. Its almost like that was an alternate reality. Slow as **** on routes, no YAC ability, drops crucial balls, can never get open, can't runblock for ****. He's only good for 1 yard TD passes, that's all he's worth. How pathetic. We can't wait to get Quarless back!?!?? Quarless!??! Are you serious. He was the most BLAH TE in the NFL. He's about as average as average gets, the most unexciting TE in the league. Is he OK, ya he's ok he blocks ok, makes a big play here and there, but he's alright. If we are praying for his return, it shows you just how fing pathetic RR is right now.

Corey Linsley - Our offense didn't seem to miss a beat his rookie year. We were getting by with below average center play for YEARS. You remember when we had this old retired guy, who was still on the field playing for us even though he was walking around like he was retired. Our centers have been bad to below average. Corey seemed to FINALLY be the answer and could be the stability we've needed for the rest of Rodgers career, the final piece to complete our dreamteam offensive line. The last few games he's whiffing on blocks, yesterday we saw a low snap, and wtf at least the last 2-3 weeks Rodgers is begging for the snap and Corey doesn't seem to even know Rodgers exists. We had it come to it's worst yesterday. Rodgers burning TO's coz Corey isn't aware there's 2-3 seconds left on the playclock, and a delay of game. Also on a couple offsides Rodgers is trying for a free play and Corey got the ball stuck up his ass so far the play is called dead. Corey looked a bullfighter waving a red flag and allowing free access to his QB and his run blocking hasn't been consistent.


These 4 guys were considered the GEMS of our 2014 and doesn't include the flops or projects. They were big contributors last year and this year counted on being core starters. All of them have regressed. I don't know what the heck is wrong with these guys!?


The hope is these guys begin to clean up their games the second half of the season as last year they all improved in Nov/Dec, but damn they need to pick up their games quick.

Very true. All of these guys played big parts in our L yesterday.

It's hard for me to pick out the biggest disappointment, but to me it's a flat tie with Adams / Dix.

Dix because he hasn't made a play, has been burned a ton, and very clearly thinks he's playing better than he actually is.

Adams is just invisible right now, and very clearly not on the same page as Rodgers.

Dick Rodgers is what he was when he was drafted - great hands, slow as an elephant, and a below average blocker

To an extent, I think Linsley has slipped back to what he was too: a really average 5th round center


I still think the biggest loss to the offense now is Nelson COMBINED with the loss of Lacy. And by loss of Lacy I mean him going from a pro bowler to a dude who shouldn't even be on the field right now.

What's pissing me off now is that the coaching staff seems to intent on rolling with the same guys.

Starks very clearly deserves the majority of the touches out of the backfield - Lacy should see maybe 1 series a half, but it's still a split.

Has Jeff Janis really not done enough to at least get a chance to make a play in an actual game that matters? Especially considering our WR's can't do anything right now?

A lot of these issues are mental too (besides Dick Rod who just isn't cut out for this). The assistant coaches aren't getting these guys prepared.

I saw this about Dick Rod.

He still isn't far removed from his playing weight of 272 in August, and the Packers don't want him to reduce.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-mike-daniels-waiting-for-payday-b99610966z1-342260231.html

He moves at glacial speed this year. It is pathetic he can't break any tackles at that kind of weight either.

Ayt wrote:I saw this about Dick Rod.

He still isn't far removed from his playing weight of 272 in August, and the Packers don't want him to reduce.

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/packers-mike-daniels-waiting-for-payday-b99610966z1-342260231.html

He moves at glacial speed this year. It is pathetic he can't break any tackles at that kind of weight either.

They have also publicly taken the stance that Lacy isn't overweight, so go figure.

On the bright side we have faced basically every top defense in the league so far and we are 6-2 after 8 games. I'm still not sold on Clements being the O.C. as we seem to really lack creativity, the game plan against Denver coming off the bye was atrocious. That should have been enough time to come up with a plan to use the players we have.

Had I not watched this team every moment for the last 25 years, I'd say that looked like a team that the coaching staff has lost, but I just refuse to believe that is the case.

Linsley I'm not concerned much about going forward. He played to well all of last season as a rookie for me to think it was fluke. He has struggled some though this year for whatever reason, as have our two tackles.

Adams got that ankle injury early and while i don't think he has Jordy or even Jennings like consistent big play ability in his future, i do see him being a solid fixture next to Jordy and Cobb over the next few years as the best corners line up more on Jordy/Cobb.

Clinton-Dix i'm much more concerned about than the two above. He's not that fluid in coverage and most concerning is how often over these first two years, he seems to have blown a coverage which lead to long pass plays. Instincts are so important for a safety as they have to decipher what they are seeing in front of them on pass plays and then decide in a blink where to help unless specifically told to say help double cover a certain receiver.

I was excited when HaHa was there for the Packers to pick, especially given the huge void at safety next to Burnett. Now i have very little expectation of him ever being among the top safeties in the league which i had badly hoped for. So now i'll take him just becoming a little above average. Without spending the time to look this up, my off the top of my head thinking about Alabama safeties drafted in say the first 2-3 rounds isn't to good once put into the NFL.

Richard Rodgers is driving me crazy this year and more for the coaching staff giving him huge numbers of snaps as if he was Finley. Lining him out in the slot down after down is one factor why the passing game is struggling. He's both slow and to stiff when trying the change direction on routes. As for him making some big plays last year, i'd bet if you looked back at each of those games, most of his catches downfield came on plays where Aaron broke from the pocket and thus R. Rodgers man lost him in the scramble/broken play, more so than him simply beating his man downfield on a normal play. Lacking those type of broken play catches this year, his athletic deficiencies are being further exposed.