Dallas Lead Up

[MickeyDavis]

Pack favored by 4. Dallas has been playing well but this is a game we should, and will, win.

[bizarro]

Welcoming Pennell back into the fold for our League best rushing defense is pretty damn huge. Our defense is the strength of our team until proven otherwise. Overall, I am unimpressed with this version of MM's Packers but see plenty of reasons to be cautiously optimistic. The offensive struggles week in week out for over a year are now worrisome. MM needs to get his head out of his ass and see that he needs to incorporate more diverse personnel formations beyond the 3wr/1 TE predictable formations. We saw a small glimpse in the fist half. Can he actually evolve?

[Ron Swanson]

Need to take advantage of this home stand, because that Atlanta game at the end of the month is looking more difficult than it did at the beginning of the year. Dallas has looked good but let's see how those 2 rookies handle playing in a hostile environment against the league's best run defense. No excuses not to be 5-1 going in to ATL.

[ReasonablySober]

Can we really say we have the league's best rushing defense when we haven't really faced a rushing attack worth a ****?

[Ron Swanson]

Can we really say we have the league's best rushing defense when we haven't really faced a rushing attack worth a ****?

It's not like I'm expecting this trend to continue (they're on pace to allow historic lows in yards and yards per attempt), but right now it's not even close. Through 4 games, they're allowing a full yard less per carry than the 2nd place team and only allowing 42 yards per game on 2.0 Y/A. That's impressive in the NFL no matter what the competition.

[WiscoKing13]

Biggest story already touched on is the number 1 running OL vs the number 1 run D. I still give the Cowboys the edge, for the most part that line has been dominate for at least 3 years now. Unlike Lacey(name all other RB), if Elliot can get a free hole it's curtains.

I've watched a little bit of Cowboys game, obviously Prescott is impressive, great accuracy and hasn't made the rookie the mistakes that can hinder a team. At the same time while the Packers run D hasn't been tested, Prescott tearing up 9ers, Bengals, Bears & Redskins might leave something to be desired.

Haven't heard anything yet, but if I recall correctly Dez could be back this week. Beasley is the type of WR that has notoriously killed us with crossing routes and speed. Terrance Williams is a nice complementary WR & all WItten does is find open areas sit down and move the chains. Shouldn't have any issues with him on vertical routes like we had vs NYG.

Anyone able to fill us in on the cowboys D? I don't know much about that aspect.

[WiscoKing13]

Packers notes for the week.

Have to think we bring in a Punter for tryouts, would even wager TT goes back to Matshy. This is way worse than Matshy worst year.

Also need to bring in another RB on the 53 if lacey's injury is any cause for concern. Starks looks like a huge waste of money and we don't have any other options. Easily would waive Callahan or Abby for another RB

Pennel/Goodson are put back on the roster this week. Goodbye Price & I have a really hard time seeing goodson not be cut. Only scenario is if Banjo will be on IR and he can fill the ST captain role.

[JimmyTheKid]

Packers notes for the week.

Have to think we bring in a Punter for tryouts, would even wager TT goes back to Matshy. This is way worse than Matshy worst year.

Also need to bring in another RB on the 53 if lacey's injury is any cause for concern. Starks looks like a huge waste of money and we don't have any other options. Easily would waive Callahan or Abby for another RB

Pennel/Goodson are put back on the roster this week. Goodbye Price & I have a really hard time seeing goodson not be cut. Only scenario is if Banjo will be on IR and he can fill the ST captain role.

At this point, just bring in a guy that can boom it. I don't care about his directional punting or ability to pin it inside the 10 yard line. I'd much rather be frustrated with a punter who kicks it into the end zone from mid field than be frustrated with a punter who can't. kick. ball. far. There are 32 NFL punting jobs and 7 billion people on planet Earth. Surely we can do better.

[Mags FTW]

Pack favored by 4. Dallas has been playing well but this is a game we should, and will, win.

Opened at 5.5. Sharps took Dallas early.

[MickeyDavis]

Remember, if you change punters you change holders and that's not always a wise thing to do during the season. That said we did bring in Schum just a few days before the season started. So it could be done. Schum has been horrid. I can''t believe there aren't 32 people out there that can punt a ball 45-50 yards consistently.

[WiscoKing13]

31st in AVG punt at 40.4 & 26th in net at 38. 2015 25th in AVG at 43.9 & 13th in net at 41.7

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/punting/sort/netAvgPuntYards/year/2015

[Ron Swanson]

Schum has been terrible. TT's one black mark on an otherwise near-perfect offseason. Just call up Masthay already.

[WiscoKing13]

Schum has been terrible. TT's one black mark on an otherwise near-perfect offseason. Just call up Masthay already.

Can't forget about starks, 4 million for a 30 year old RB is terrible.

[GBPackers47]

Can we really say we have the league's best rushing defense when we haven't really faced a rushing attack worth a ****?

Yes you can because we're still playing against NFL teams. Here are the rushing averages per game for every team we've played so far this year:

Jacksonville: 75.2 (30th in the league)
Minnesota: 70.6 (32nd in the league)
Detroit: 89.8 (23rd in the league)
New York Giants: 83.6 (26th in the league)

Obviously those rushing attacks don't look great, especially with where they rank in the league, but now let's look at the same data without the Packers game involved:

Jacksonville: 84.3 yards per game (we held them to 48)
Minnesota: 80.7 yards per game (we held them to 30)
Detroit: 99.75 (we held them to 50)
New York Giants: 93.75 (we held them to 43).

Those averages are a lot higher when you pull the Packers game from the data, which means our run defense has done a great job of making teams rank in the bottom half of rushing attacks. I think this game against Dallas is going to be the ultimate test for us to say this defense is legit, but the numbers don't lie. This run D has been for real so far this year.

[WiscoKing13]

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[jazzfanWA]

Can we really say we have the league's best rushing defense when we haven't really faced a rushing attack worth a ****?

Yes you can because we're still playing against NFL teams. Here are the rushing averages per game for every team we've played so far this year:

Jacksonville: 75.2 (30th in the league)
Minnesota: 70.6 (32nd in the league)
Detroit: 89.8 (23rd in the league)
New York Giants: 83.6 (26th in the league)

Obviously those rushing attacks don't look great, especially with where they rank in the league, but now let's look at the same data without the Packers game involved:

Jacksonville: 84.3 yards per game (we held them to 48)
Minnesota: 80.7 yards per game (we held them to 30)
Detroit: 99.75 (we held them to 50)
New York Giants: 93.75 (we held them to 43).

Those averages are a lot higher when you pull the Packers game from the data, which means our run defense has done a great job of making teams rank in the bottom half of rushing attacks. I think this game against Dallas is going to be the ultimate test for us to say this defense is legit, but the numbers don't lie. This run D has been for real so far this year.

In short, the Packers are allowing 10 yds less than what the respective teams avg/game is,

[dietac]

Can we really say we have the league's best rushing defense when we haven't really faced a rushing attack worth a ****?

Yes you can because we're still playing against NFL teams. Here are the rushing averages per game for every team we've played so far this year:

Jacksonville: 75.2 (30th in the league)
Minnesota: 70.6 (32nd in the league)
Detroit: 89.8 (23rd in the league)
New York Giants: 83.6 (26th in the league)

Obviously those rushing attacks don't look great, especially with where they rank in the league, but now let's look at the same data without the Packers game involved:

Jacksonville: 84.3 yards per game (we held them to 48)
Minnesota: 80.7 yards per game (we held them to 30)
Detroit: 99.75 (we held them to 50)
New York Giants: 93.75 (we held them to 43).

Those averages are a lot higher when you pull the Packers game from the data, which means our run defense has done a great job of making teams rank in the bottom half of rushing attacks. I think this game against Dallas is going to be the ultimate test for us to say this defense is legit, but the numbers don't lie. This run D has been for real so far this year.

In short, the Packers are allowing 10 yds less than what the respective teams avg/game is,

I'm going to guess that math wasn't your strong suit.

[Mags FTW]

Yards per game isn't really a good metric. We pulled so far ahead of Detroit that they couldn't run the ball. Yards per carry is better.

[bizarro]

This punting situation is inexplicable. We are sticking to a guy who had a sub-par 1st year in the league and continues to be the worst punter in the NFL. I never thought I'd say I miss 'The Ginger'...but, man oh man, Schum single-handedly gave the Giants momentum throughout Sunday night's game with one shank after the next. In the JS article (http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/2016/10/10/jacob-schum-knows-he-must-punt-better/91855598/), he points to his last punt of 39 yards as his best punt of the night:

On his final punt, Schum said, he dropped the football farther out in front of his body. He also tweaked his steps. He still needs more distance than 39 yards. Through the first four games, only one punt has exceeded 50 yards.

He made a tweak and punted the ball 39 yards. 6 yards better than his 33 yard shank that set the Giants up at their 47 yard line.

Do these remarks instill confidence he can rebound:

“I felt like I hit it pretty cleanly,” Schum said, “and it seemed like it just died up in the air. Kind of like one of those wobbly spirals, and turned over. It just didn’t go as far as I wanted it to. You look up and expect, it’s like, ‘Oh, there it goes.’ And it just doesn’t go. It’s like, ‘OK, awesome.’

So, you thought you really nailed one. And it died like a wounded duck. Awesome. You can't **** around with competent offenses by continuing to egregiously lose the field position battle. This feels like Scott Frost 2.0. Except, actually, Frost averaged 2.0 yards more per punt than Schum. Yuck.

[LUKE23]

Through 4 games, Rodgers has the worst completion % in the NFL for QBs with 43+ attempts. Amazing. If he's even average against Minny we are 4-0. D has carried us so far, time for the offense to start playing some **** football.