2017 NFL Draft Thread: Round 1 Discussion

[Mags FTW]

Half of Twitter saying we're taking Cook, the other half saying we're getting offers left and right for the pick.

[jakecronus8]

Just bummed to the max right now. After that Bucks debacle I was hoping for a good pick. Long long night.

[El Duderino]

Anyone disappointed with Foster needs to admit the giant character and medical red flags there because if you are pissed you aren't being objective and you are ignoring that drop by a lot of GMs

So we should be happy that ONCE AGAIN Ted ignored the glaring hole in our defense?

I would have just drafted Foster, but this defense has plenty of holes.

ILB lacks any playmaker

OLB who can rush the passer. Hell, we probably need multiple pass rushers. Peppers gone. Clay aging and injury prone. Zero depth there and given a dearth on the DL who help with the pass rush, Ted better land at least two who can produce as rookies.

CB as a group for the Packers is bottom tier in the league

[ReasonablySober]

I do honestly love having the first picks on Saturday and Sunday. I'm always envious of the teams that do. But man, if Foster becomes Willis or Kuechly and the Packers take another Randall, it's a top of the line black mark on Thompson's biography.

TT has left himself legitimately open for criticism on that move. Only time will tell.

But if we wait until the 4th round to start picking LBs I'm gonna be livid.

You guys watched the draft and heard that NFL analyst talked to multiple GMs that flagged his medical right?


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What medical?

[Profound23]

Vikes tried to trade up to 31 for Lamp and were outbid.

Reports are many teams, including the Vikes are trying to trade up to our pick. Some for Lamp, others for Kizer or Webb.

If we want Lamp, we have to take him right away. If not, then trade down.

Vikings 2nd and 3rd fits the trade chart. I would first demand that....then see if the Bills will make a similar offer of their 2nd/3rd. If nothing else trade with the Jets for their 2nd/4th. Move down 5 more spots for another 4th. You can then afford to package some of those acquired picks to move up.....or use on a player like Sidney Jones which would be similar to trading for a future first.

Then get one of the CBs or pass rushers you want with that pick. You can then afford to use one of those acquired picks for Sidney Jones and that is basically like trading for a future first.

[Mags FTW]

I apologize, but why is Dalvin Cook available?

Apparently he tested poorly and he has character issues. People are concerned with the people he associates with.

11 on the Wonderlic. 20 is average intelligence. You need a 10 to be deemed "literate".

Kamara was the highest scoring of the better known RBs with a 24.

[midranger]

We have a complete dearth of top end talent outside of Rodgers. I understand the attraction of more picks, and value, etc... Lately (4-5 years) however, our midround approach has yielded a bunch of Micah Hyde/JC Tretter level guys. Decent enough to kind of plug a hole, but not making a difference and probably soon forgotten. And our late round drafting has been atrocious. Might as well just cut a Ted 6th or 7th rounder these days.

[MickeyDavis]

I can see Ted keep trading until we have 32 7th round picks

[Profound23]

TT has left himself legitimately open for criticism on that move. Only time will tell.

But if we wait until the 4th round to start picking LBs I'm gonna be livid.

You guys watched the draft and heard that NFL analyst talked to multiple GMs that flagged his medical right?


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What medical?

Mayock said he has heard different things from different GMs. Some say his shoulders were coming along as scheduled and others said they took him off their board. The same stuff they say every year. Remember when we acquired Favre some thought he would only physically last a few years. Wolf said, he had to take a chance and go above his medical group. Sometimes, to acquire greatness you have to take a chance. I am disappointed we didn't do it with Foster but there are other possibilities out there.

At ILB alone, Kendell Beckwith is another one that we may use one of those 4ths on as well.

[trwi7]

The biggest bang for the buck are in rounds 2-4.

If you actually hit on those picks.

Our 2nd-4th round picks the last 10 years.

Jason Spriggs
Kyler Fackrell
Blake Martinez
Dean Lowry

Quinten Rollins
Ty Montgomery
Jake Ryan

Davante Adams
Khyri Thornton
Richard Rodgers
Carl Bradford

Eddie Lacy
David Bakhtiari
JC Tretter
Johnathan Franklin

Jerel Worthy
Casey Hayward
Mike Daniels
Jerron McMillian

Randall Cobb
Alex Green
Davon House

Mike Neal
Morgan Burnett

T.J. Lang

Jordy Nelson
Brian Brohm
Pat Lee
Jermichael Finley
Jeremy Thompson
Josh Sitton

Brandon Jackson
James Jones
Aaron Rouse
Allen Barbre

Too early to tell on last year's picks but do any of them look like even middle of the pack starters at their positions in the league? Maybe Spriggs?

Montgomery was a really good pick. The other two, doesn't look so good.

Adams is pretty good. Two busts and a meh backup tight end.

Tretter was hurt most of the time. Lacy was meh. Franklin got hurt but was a 3rd down back. Bakhtiari was an amazing pick.

Worthy and McMillian were busts. Hayward was good but we let him walk in free agency. Daniels was a great pick.

Cobb was a good pick. Green was a bust. House was meh, let him walk, then signed him when he was released.

Neal was a bust. Burnett is a good player.

Lang was a great pick.

Brohm, Lee and Thompson were busts. Nelson and Sitton were great picks. Finley had the potential to be great but always left you wanting more and then got hurt.

Jackson, Rouse and Barbre were all busts. Jones was a good 3rd receiver.

So there were no doubt some home runs but there's also a ton of meh to complete crap in there as well. I just think when you have a potential top 10 pick fall into your lap at 29 (and there may be some red flags), you just say **** it, shut down the phones and take the gamble.

[Profound23]

I understand the Browns wanting Njoku and he has potential. However, they almost ended up with Garrett, Reuben Foster, and Jabrill Peppers. Just imagine that defense.

They also could have just not traded down and ended up with Jonathan Allen/Garrett.

[Profound23]

With so much talk about teams wanting to move up badly for a QB.....hopefully we can get some top value here. Need to get at least a early to mid 2nd and 3rd.

[Mags FTW]

Vikes tried to trade up to 31 for Lamp and were outbid.

Reports are many teams, including the Vikes are trying to trade up to our pick. Some for Lamp, others for Kizer or Webb.

If we want Lamp, we have to take him right away. If not, then trade down.

Vikings 2nd and 3rd fits the trade chart. I would first demand that....

No way am I trading with the Vikes. OL is their glaring weakness and was a major reason we were able to overtake them for the division last year. If they get Lamp without having a 1st, their front office will be doing backflips tomorrow.

[Mags FTW]

I can see Ted keep trading until we have 32 7th round picks

I'm fine with stockpiling 2nd and 3rds. The league has become a war of attrition. Need lots of depth.

[neiLz]

I apologize, but why is Dalvin Cook available?

Apparently he tested poorly and he has character issues. People are concerned with the people he associates with.

11 on the Wonderlic. 20 is average intelligence. You need a 10 to be deemed "literate".

Kamara was the highest scoring of the better known RBs with a 24.

I want another trade down a few picks in the 2nd and pick up another third or fourth. Take king then hope cook Mixon or Kamara fall to late second. Then go bpa rest of draft.

[RiotPunch]

And I hate the trade down. A **** 4th? Who gives a ****?

Last year 3 players picked 108th or later were pro bowlers.

There were 2 in 2015.

There were 0 in 2014.

There were 3 in 2013.

There were 4 in 2012 (and 1 was a kicker).

There were 5 in 2011.

We had a player that many considered a top 10 pick sitting there for us at a position of need for several years and we traded down, for a 4th. A player that will likely be a role player at best. So **** frustrating.

We're not keeping that pick, dude. It's added ammunition to trade up later on. Ted hasn't been a fabulous drafter lately, but let's see what we do. Lots of talent on the board.

We can chastise him two years from now when Foster and Watt are Pro Bowlers.

[Profound23]

Vikes tried to trade up to 31 for Lamp and were outbid.

Reports are many teams, including the Vikes are trying to trade up to our pick. Some for Lamp, others for Kizer or Webb.

If we want Lamp, we have to take him right away. If not, then trade down.

Vikings 2nd and 3rd fits the trade chart. I would first demand that....

No way am I trading with the Vikes. OL is their glaring weakness and was a major reason we were able to overtake them for the division last year. If they get Lamp without having a 1st, their front office will be doing backflips tomorrow.

You cut out the rest. I never said do the trade with Minnesota. Get them to give a nice offer, then tell the teams looking for QB (Jets, Bills, Redskins) they need to match or beat that offer.

More than likely the Bills are offering their 2nd and 4th but they just acquired a 3rd from the Chiefs. IF they keep hearing how all of these teams are trying to get our pick.....they may up the ante.

[HKPackFan]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000803469/article/2017-nfl-draft-best-remaining-prospects

[trwi7]

We can chastise him two years from now when Foster and Watt are Pro Bowlers.

No, you have to do it now because if you bring it up later you get the posters with their hindsight is 20/20 BS.

[Iheartfootball]

Elton John and the NFL draft. Two things that should always go together.

What is they both play with balls?