NFL Draft: Day two discussion (rounds 2 & 3)

[ReasonablySober]

The people who like Wilson really like him. Matt Miller had him as the best overall corner and has him mocked to GB in his day two mock:

The Pick: CB Quincy Wilson, Florida

The Green Bay Packers traded out of the first round, dishing the No. 29 overall pick to the Cleveland Browns in exchange for the No. 33 and No. 108 overall picks. This move adds some nice draft capital and still allows Packers general manager Ted Thompson to pick up an elite cornerback in Quincy Wilson.

Many scouts had Wilson listed as their No. 1 cornerback, and it was surprising that his name wasn't called on Thursday night. With an incredible combination of size, strength and quickness, Wilson projects to be a standout press corner who can jam receivers at the line while also making plays on the ball due to his excellent football IQ. Wilson recorded five interceptions over his past two campaigns with the Gators and could rack up plenty more at the next level with the Green Bay Packers. Don't be surprised if you hear this talented cornerback's name called as the first player selected in Round 2.

and 61:

The Pick: EDGE Derek Rivers, Youngstown State

The Packers defense could continue to see big improvements in the second round. If the club brings in potential star Quincy Wilson with the top pick on Day 2, it opens up the possibility for an outstanding edge-rusher like Derek Rivers to come off the board towards the end of the round.

Rivers is loaded with upside, and the buzz surrounding this athlete has reached fever pitch. He produced at a ridiculous level during his tenure at Youngstown State, but the competition wasn't at the level SEC rushers tend to face. Regardless, he stood out at the Senior Bowl as one of the most intriguing players and held his own against a number of great offensive linemen. The Packers need to roll the dice on a young potential star lineman like Rivers in the back end of this round.

with 93: Green Bay Packers: LB Kendell Beckwith, LSU

[Ron Swanson]

Still all about King with our pick, but there's just so much talent left that I wouldn't mind another trade down. TT makes his money in the 2nd round of the draft.

King
Anderson
Cook
Robinson

[jakecronus8]

Hearing all sorts of noise about a trade down again. That's fine and dandy, but this is not the time to bring in a 12 man draft class. We need quality players that will make an impact from day one. Ted had an opportunity to knock it out of the park last night, imo, with either Foster or Watt and just couldn't help himself. For the first time in a long time I'm really disappointed in him.

[Kerb Hohl]

Hearing all sorts of noise about a trade down again. That's fine and dandy, but this is not the time to bring in a 12 man draft class. We need quality players that will make an impact from day one. Ted had an opportunity to knock it out of the park last night, imo, with either Foster or Watt and just couldn't help himself. For the first time in a long time I'm really disappointed in him.

Scenario that I'd be very happy with:

Step 1: Trade back one more time with high demand. Let's say move back 7 or 8 spots and pick up a 3rd or 4th to do so.

Step 2: Package all extra picks and move up into the 2nd.

Step 3: Draft 3 players in the 2nd round. Or maybe 2 2nds and a high 3rd.

If we keep moving back and take a bunch of 4th round picks, I will not be happy.

[Profound23]

I wouldn't know how to feel. I like those prospects, but I would hate missing out on Rasul Douglas.

I think Beckwith can be our 4th from Cleveland. Also, just missing Jordan Willis at the end of round two would suck....but I like the potential with Rivers.

This is why trading down again is going to happen, still too many picks bunched up and we should be able to land 3 or 4 of these guys easily.

What would you guys do if the plan is Lamp and either Cook, Mixon, or Kamara?

[Kerb Hohl]

What would you guys do if the plan is Lamp and either Cook, Mixon, or Kamara?

I would cut Ted's dick off if he took another offensive player at any point before the 6th round.

[nmeurett]

What would we realistically have to do to end up with 3 2nd round picks and 2 3rd round picks? I think Ted should sell his late picks as he can get drafted players who are about just as talented.

[ReasonablySober]

What would you guys do if the plan is Lamp and either Cook, Mixon, or Kamara?

I would cut Ted's dick off if he took another offensive player at any point before the 6th round.

Heh, and I want the Packers to load up and just try to boat race the rest of the league. Zay Jones, Mixon, and Hodges is probably my dream haul from tonight.

[bdpecore]

Trade back one more time with say the Jets for picks #39 and #107. Then draft a CB and Edge Rusher in the 2nd and target RB, ILB and another defensive player with picks 93, 107 and 108.

[Kerb Hohl]

What would you guys do if the plan is Lamp and either Cook, Mixon, or Kamara?

I would cut Ted's dick off if he took another offensive player at any point before the 6th round.

Heh, and I want the Packers to load up and just try to boat race the rest of the league. Zay Jones, Mixon, and Hodges is probably my dream haul from tonight.

I totally get this offensive juggernaut theory. I am trying to imagine defenses stopping the Packers with another stud open field RB like Cook or maybe Mixon.

Here's how the season will go:

1. 13-3.

2. Team with either elite defense or very good offense faces the Packers.

3. Game is 7-7 in the 1st quarter. McCarthy punts on 4th and 4 from our own 40 yard line or more likely kicks a FG on 4th and 3 at the 35.

4. Season ends. I turn off TV.

[Flames24Rulz]

I love Cook -- the RB pairing with him and Montgomery would be pretty lethal IMO. And then I want the rest of the draft to feature nothing but defense.

I totally get why people would be opposed to taking an offensive player with the first pick. I think Cook is going to be a stud for whoever takes him, though. I hope it's us.

[bdpecore]

Are there any players rated as first round talent who you would be upset with if taken at #33. Here is the list based on multiple sources:
Dalvin Cook, Cam Robinson, Forrest Lamp, Kevin King, Quincy Wilson, Malik McDowell, Budda Baker, Joe Mixon, Chidobe Awuzie, DeShone Kizer. Feel free to add additional players I may have missed. Of this group, I only want Cook, King, Wilson, McDowell or Mixon. We don't need to draft an OL early now that we've signed Evans. I like Baker but he doesn't really fill any glaring need . Kiser is a no go at this point and while I think Awuzie will be a good CB in the league we need one who can play the outside not the slot.

[Profound23]

What would we realistically have to do to end up with 3 2nd round picks and 2 3rd round picks? I think Ted should sell his late picks as he can get drafted players who are about just as talented.

-Panthers covet either Cam Robinson or Forrest Lamp (They need oline) and offer both of their 2nds (40 and 64) for our 2nd and OUR 4th.

-A QB like Watson or Webb falls to pick 40, and the Redskins offer their 2nd (49) and 3rd (81) for pick 40 and our two 5th round picks.
-Then if you really want that third 3rd round pick, you can easily trade up from the first overall pick of the 4th using our 6th round pick.


You would then have picks 49, 61, and 64 in the second and picks 81, 93, and whatever you get from trading up from pick 108 in the 3rd.

Of course that means we are pretty much done drafting until the end of the 7th round.

[Lippo]

Foster would have been a solid pick IMO

Of course if we make another trade down , pick up another 3rd and get Mixon or King + say a Sydney Jones with the extra picks, all will be forgiven.

Trade with Rams - 2(33) and 6(212) for 2(37) and 3(69)
Trade with Buffalo 2(61) and 4(134) for 2(44)

2(37) Joe Mixon
2(44) Sydney Jones
3(69) Derek Rivers
3(93) Ethan Pocic
4(108) Alex Anzalone
yada yada

[wichmae]

Trade back and target Cunningham. Like I said in the other thread theres about 20 DB's still on the board with very similar high grades. No reason to take one now unless TT loves him. I think we move out of 33 and someone comes up to take Lamp or Kizer.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Trade back one more time with say the Jets for picks #39 and #107. Then draft a CB and Edge Rusher in the 2nd and target RB, ILB and another defensive player with picks 93, 107 and 108.

I love this scenario. Its not like an early 4th rounder is a throw away pick. Now of course not all 4th rounders work out but teams expect to get eventual starters at that point and the more swings you get the better your odds that one of those guys hits like a bak or daniels.

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[zmanishere11]

We're starting backups at MLB.
We regularly play backups at olb dl and rb
We have no idea if we have an NFL caliber cb on this roster.

Upgrade any of these positions the next 2 days and I'm happy. We need the extra picks more than folks think.

I do think that if foster or watt end up as superstar caliber players, and we whiff on this draft it's a black eye for the organization and tts drafting in general.

[Kerb Hohl]

We're starting backups at MLB.
We regularly play backups at olb dl and rb
We have no idea if we have an NFL caliber cb on this roster.

Upgrade any of these positions the next 2 days and I'm happy. We need the extra picks more than folks think.

I do think that if foster or watt end up as superstar caliber players, and we whiff on this draft it's a black eye for the organization and tts drafting in general.

This. We don't have a coach that is smart enough to try to score 50/game and therefore we need to try to stop teams from scoring 45. As long as the NFL is hesitant to go for it on 4th down 80% of the time like we should be doing, we will need players on the field that actually can force more than 0 punts in the playoffs. If McCarthy embraced the numbers and said we're going for it every time beyond our own 20, then give me Lamp and Cook.

[Profound23]

Trade down and get at least one more pick tonight:

DBs: Rasul Douglas, Baker, Kevin King, Quincy Wilson, Tabor, Sidney Jones, Awuzie,Witherspoon,
Edge: Jordan Willis, Bowser, Tim Williams, Basham, Rivers
RB's: Mixon, Cook, Kamara
ILB: Zach Cunningham, McMillan, Duke Riley
DL: McDowell, Tomlinson, Watkins
OL: Feeney, Lamp, Garcia

Looking at those DBs my favorite healthy player is Rasul Douglas who we can probably get with our third. If we can trade down and get another third then give me Jordan Willis first and sort out whoever is left from these guy for the rest of the night.

Just please, without reaching land Rasul Douglas or Sidney Jones (or both) tonight.

[mlloyd10]

Seeing us trading with the Jets - They Need a QB and can choose from Webb or Kizer

Something like 32 and 134 for 39 and 70