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Post#21 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:28 pm

sdn40 wrote:Would have liked to see a center prospect taken instead of one of the rb's. Right now I think Barclay is the backup center (not a good thing), Linsley has been injured and also is in the last year of his contract. Should have paid the versatile Tretter.
We have lost Sitton and Lang and Tretter in the last 2 years and added a 34 year old Evans to a one year deal. Lane Taylor is also in the final year of his deal.
I'm sure TT has a plan of some sort, but it isn't like him to let the cupboard get so bare on the OL.

I think its possible they viewed their two practice squad guys patrick and flores higher than any olineman left at the end of the draft. I've heard they are very high on patrick and it wouldn't surprise me if hes the number 1 backup interior lineman.

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Post#22 » by Gianstoppable » Sun Apr 30, 2017 11:51 pm

Love the King, J Jones, Biegel and A Jones picks

Like the Kofi, Dupree and Yancey picks

Not a fan of the Williams pick. I thought he was taken a little early and I dont think his game translates all that well, but who knows.

Undrafted guy I love we signed is Taysom Hill. He's just gotta stay healthy and he would be a great 3rd stringer and a guy who will push Hundley (who was rumored to be shopped during the draft)

Also wish we would have tried to sign Harvey Langi undrafted. One guy I'd target is Dan Skipper OT Arkansas, hes slow but hes HUGE 6'10. Who knows, maybe a better staff could improve his footwork.

Really wish we would have grabbed Bucky Hodges during his free fall

I'd give it a B+ possibly a A-
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Post#23 » by Mags FTW » Mon May 1, 2017 1:30 am

Gianstoppable wrote:Undrafted guy I love we signed is Taysom Hill. He's just gotta stay healthy and he would be a great 3rd stringer and a guy who will push Hundley (who was rumored to be shopped during the draft)

The team is still high on Callahan. Hill will need to outplay him first.
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Post#24 » by wichmae » Mon May 1, 2017 1:32 am

IM not going to try and pretend to be an NFL draft guru. Im the baseball guy who in the end loves drafts in general. I will say though personally I love the draft. I may have done a couple of picks slightly differently but in the end I think this is a really good haul.
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Post#25 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon May 1, 2017 4:47 am

According to Mcginn it was King or Cook if they stayed at 29. Sounds like watt was ranked behind them and foster was off their board.

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Post#26 » by Mags FTW » Mon May 1, 2017 1:17 pm

Some tidbits from McGinn:

If Thompson hadn’t signed guard Jahri Evans on the eve of the draft, he would have been forced to use one of his first four or five picks on the weakest position in the draft. It would have been a complete waste of resources that needed to be allocated elsewhere, especially for defense.


Thompson is more of risk-taker than me. Instead of taking King at 29, he gambled and won that he could accept the fourth-round pick from Cleveland and still secure King at 33.
T.J. Watt wasn’t a strong consideration for Green Bay at that point in the draft. Inside linebacker Reuben Foster would have filled a void that partially remains, but the Packers weren’t taking him there on the basis of medical, off-field and mental issues.


In the end, it came down to King and running back Dalvin Cook, who also fit a huge need. But King was a safer, cleaner pick than Cook, and so it was done.


A total of 330 players were invited to the combine in February. Of the 253 players that were drafted, all but 25 were at the combine.

The Packers drafted three of the 25 non-combine players: wide receiver DeAngelo Yancey, guard Kofi Amichia and running back Devante Mays. Eighteen teams drafted at least one non-combine player, but Green Bay was the only one to select three.


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Post#27 » by Ron Swanson » Mon May 1, 2017 1:31 pm

B+

Only positions I would of liked to address but ended up neglected, are OL and OLB depth. Amichia could be a nice pick, but didn't really know a ton about him leading up to the draft, same with Montravius Adams. King was my guy 2 months ago. Very happy we loaded up on some mid-late round RB's. All in all, gave Rodgers plenty of new weapons to add to his arsenal, and strengthened the secondary. My only question is, are we gonna add another pass-rusher or are we just rolling into the season with:

Matthews
Perry
Fackrell
Biegel
Elliot

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Post#28 » by bdpecore » Mon May 1, 2017 2:58 pm

I loved Ted's selections.

I wanted King but thought his stock was rising to the point he would be gone before we picked at #29. Thankfully the Bears jumped the gun and started the QB frenzy early with helped King fall into our laps.

Jones will get plenty of burn this season with he or Morgan playing ILB.

Adams could be the steal of the draft if he can stay motivated. Since our based D is basically our nickel a rotation of Daniels, Clark, Adams and Guion (hopefully Lowry in 2018) is pretty solid.

Biegel can play inside or outside which allows Dom to run multiple looks and blitz options with both Biegel and Matthews on the field with Perry. He also can step in and contribute week one.

Williams should replace Lacy as our big bruising RB while Jones and Mays provide a couple developmental players who will add quality depth down the line.

Finally, Yancey and Dupre could very likely surpass Davis and Janis on the depth chart in camp. Both are big receivers with decent speed. Of the two Dupre has better hands but his production wasn't very impressive last season which could be due to LSU's poor QBs.

Amichia is a trademark Ted pick. Smaller school LT who projects to be moved inside due to his lack of size. He should spend this season on the practice squad and hopefully make the roster next season and take over Barclay's spot.

Like others have mentioned, there were quality players who fell (i.e. Brantley, Hodges, Connor Harris and Carroll Phillips) but I cannot fault TT for his selections because he is more familiar with the progression of guys like Fackrell, Elliott, Lowry, Tripp, Murphy and Patrick than I am.

Based on this, I would give this draft a solid A. Well done Ted!


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Post#29 » by Profound23 » Mon May 1, 2017 3:02 pm

So if we trade down and someone takes King, we take Cook.

I kind of wanted that....wonder how our draft would have looked. I think our second stays the same Would we have drafted Rasul Douglas in the 3rd or did everything the same except draft 3 corners the same way we drafted 3 running backs late?
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Post#30 » by MickeyDavis » Mon May 1, 2017 5:39 pm

Here's the whole McGinn article, some good stuff. Sometimes the JS links don't always work for long so I'm posting it here.

The keys to successful drafting are preparation, taking advantage of the strengths of each draft and understanding your roster.

Ted Thompson’s results over the weekend, his 13th draft for the Green Bay Packers, showed a more flexible general manager starting the day before the draft.

If Thompson hadn’t signed guard Jahri Evans on the eve of the draft, he would have been forced to use one of his first four or five picks on the weakest position in the draft. It would have been a complete waste of resources that needed to be allocated elsewhere, especially for defense.

It was bad enough that Thompson allowed both Josh Sitton and T.J. Lang to get out of town with nothing to show for it. It would have been much worse to compound the error and take one of the suspect guards.

The signing of Evans to play right guard is reminiscent of Ron Wolf’s move to sign left guard Guy McIntyre on the eve of training camp in 1994. Like Evans, McIntryre was 33. Both players had been perennial Pro Bowlers for Super Bowl-winning teams.

McIntyre brought a measure of meanness to an offensive line that needed it. Injuries shortened McIntyre’s season to 10 games and he was gone after one year, but the Packers might not have made the playoffs without him.

Wolf did the same thing in 1995 with old pro Harry Galbreath before youthful Adam Timmerman came along to solidify the position.

Evans played poorly at about 330 pounds in 2015, then was cut by the Saints and Seahawks last year. The Saints gave Evans another chance and, with his weight in the 310-315 range, were rewarded with much more serviceable play.

“I thought he hit the wall a couple years ago,” said a personnel man for an NFC team that studied the guard market in unrestricted free agency. “But he played better last year. He played OK.”

It was the kind of veteran signing that has been anathema for Thompson for years. Why he waited until the day before the draft to procure Evans is anyone’s guess, but he did it and, by doing so, helped both the team and his draft.

Of course, an exceptional scout such as Thompson recognized months ago just how talented and deep the pool of defensive backs would be.

At the same time, Thompson probably listened to his scouts and the coaches, all of whom knew plain well just how bad off the Packers were at cornerback.

If Micah Hyde were considered a safety, I wouldn’t have listed a single cornerback among the Packers’ 10 best defensive players last season. The sad fact of the matter is the Packers didn’t have a starting cornerback after Sam Shields went down.

“They’ve got too many slow guys,” an NFL personnel man said after the season. “That defense sucks. No identity. They’ve got to have players to get takeaways and that can run.”

The Packers couldn’t have even lined up without obtaining a starting cornerback in this draft. The need there trumped the voids elsewhere.

It’s hard to say why Thompson was willing to take the risk and trade four slots down and out of the first round. With Tre’Davious White gone to Buffalo at 27, my sense at that point was it had to be Kevin King or bust at cornerback.

Thompson is more of risk-taker than me. Instead of taking King at 29, he gambled and won that he could accept the fourth-round pick from Cleveland and still secure King at 33.

T.J. Watt wasn’t a strong consideration for Green Bay at that point in the draft. Inside linebacker Reuben Foster would have filled a void that partially remains, but the Packers weren’t taking him there on the basis of medical, off-field and mental issues.

In the end, it came down to King and running back Dalvin Cook, who also fit a huge need. But King was a safer, cleaner pick than Cook, and so it was done.

In the second round, Thompson once more dipped into a position of strength by selecting safety Josh Jones.

Defensive tackle Montravius Adams was taken late in the third round, right where the league consensus seemed to have him. With the shrewdly obtained fourth from the Browns, Thompson tabbed Vince Biegel to beef up the pass rush.

Thompson increased his pick count from eight at the start to 10 choices at the end. From the fourth round on, however, there was excessive gambling on players with athletic testing numbers and not enough chops.

A total of 330 players were invited to the combine in February. Of the 253 players that were drafted, all but 25 were at the combine.

The Packers drafted three of the 25 non-combine players: wide receiver DeAngelo Yancey, guard Kofi Amichia and running back Devante Mays. Eighteen teams drafted at least one non-combine player, but Green Bay was the only one to select three.

There’s nothing that says players not invited to the combine can’t play. They do, year after year.

The Packers did their homework, having all three players visit and undergo medical examinations. It’s possible, however, one or more of these players was overdrafted primarily due to the Packers’ emphasis on athletic testing and traits.

The last six picks all were on offense, and if Thompson was in the mood for gambling he probably should have been doing it with another cornerback or linebacker.

Rather than resort to superficiality and assign a letter grade on this draft overall, let’s dig into the Packers’ choices. Much of the information stems from countless interviews with general managers, personnel directors and area scouts in the last five months (including Sunday) on more than 350 draft-eligible players.

Following each pick are two numbers. On a 1-to-10 scale – with 10 being the highest – the first number is the player’s chance to make a significant contribution as a rookie and the second number is his chance to make a significant contribution during his career in Green Bay.

Kevin King, CB, Washington (9, 9): Let’s hope the Packers don’t play silly games and make King “earn” the position. The holdovers earned nothing by their play a year ago. King should start from Day One.

At 6 feet 3 inches, he’s the tallest cornerback in Green Bay since Michael Hawthorne in 2003-’04. He’s also 20 times more talented than Hawthorne.

King isn’t one of these developing underclassmen, having started three years at Washington. He has terrific speed, remarkable ball skills and everything it takes to play the press-man system favored by defensive coordinator Dom Capers and cornerbacks coach Joe Whitt.

He needs to get stronger and become a more secure tackler. It’s not that he isn’t willing. It’s just that there are times when he slams into a ball carrier, gets too high and slides off.

Would the Packers have taken Gareon Conley, who went 24th to Oakland amid accusations of rape? Thompson is the only man who knows the answer, and he’ll never say.

Did the Packers prefer White, another savvy senior, to King? My guess is no on the basis of how much speed was emphasized, but White certainly had many redeeming qualities.

Not only is King taller than Quincy Wilson, he’s also faster and more experienced.

Josh Jones, S, North Carolina State (7, 8): The Cowboys drafted Chidobe Awuzie primarily as a cornerback, which made Jones the eighth safety selected. It was an all-time draft at safety, and the Packers got a good and potentially great player.

Despite his arresting size-speed numbers (6-1½, 221, 4.40), Jones was better playing in the box. He’s a little stiff in the hips, and even with the speed there are reservations about his range.

He’ll need some work playing the middle of the field. At times, he has been overly aggressive in coverage, sitting on or jumping routes and giving up big plays.

With Ha Ha Clinton-Dix patrolling deep, Jones can learn the nuances of off-the-hash coverage in time. His role appears to be as one of the two linebackers in the nickel defense and possibly as the only linebacker in the dime.

Joe Thomas (6-0½, 230) had that job last season. He can be an explosive tackler, as can Jones, but can’t even begin to cover as much ground.

It’s questionable if Jones possesses the physicality to shed a block and tackle a top running back as the lone linebacker in a 4-1 defense. What he should be able to do is blitz or spy the quarterback.

The selection of Jones could enable Morgan Burnett, if he can fend off talented youngster Kentrell Brice’s bid for at least a little playing time, to play 100% of the snaps at safety alongside Clinton-Dix.

Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn (5, 7): Teams didn’t like what they saw from Adams in his first two seasons as a starter. Like a lot of athletic defensive linemen, his effort level ran hot and cold.

As a senior, Adams went from underachiever to achiever. He was named the Tigers’ MVP. There was nothing the matter with his intensity.

Adams’ flashes show dominance. He gets off the ball in a hurry, as Jerel Worthy once did at Michigan State, and was able to overpower some blockers in the SEC for sacks and tackles for loss.

Worthy’s inability to beat NFL guards became apparent 10 days to two weeks into his first Packers’ training camp. He also was too easily buckled at the point of attack. He was a bust.

Adams is stronger and a little bigger than Worthy. His problem at the point is lack of awareness. By the time he recognizes the blocking combination, the double-team is in place and he’s being washed down.

Having lost inside rushers such as Julius Peppers, Datone Jones and Mike Neal in the past year, the Packers drafted Adams to back up Mike Daniels at 3-technique in the 3-4 and possibly join him inside on passing downs.

Adams has the stuff you can’t teach. It’s up to Mike Trgovac, the veteran position coach, to develop his reactions and footwork.

Vince Biegel, OLB, Wisconsin (4, 6): Thirteen outside linebackers in a 3-4 defense were off the board when Biegel led off the fourth round. The Packers took him over Auburn’s Carl Lawson and running back Samaje Perine of Oklahoma, a player regarded highly by some teams for his power running and personality.

Nevertheless, the Packers think they might have hit it big with Biegel, and rightly so.

This is no projection, and there’s no need for rookie orientation. He played in a 3-4 at Wisconsin, and he also knows all about the team and its fans.

Biegel isn’t as big or quite as fast as Kyler Fackrell, who was drafted 20 slots earlier a year ago. But Biegel is thicker and probably stronger.

In coverage, Biegel will have work to do. Teams will try to exploit him with the pass, and some personnel people questioned his stoutness against the run.

If Biegel can’t win consistently as an outside rusher, there’s a chance he could play inside. His father, Rocky, played off the ball at Brigham Young, and a scout for an NFL team said Sunday that they seriously considered drafting Biegel and playing him at inside linebacker.

The Packers didn’t fill their void for an every-down, talented inside linebacker. Whatever the assignment, Biegel can be expected to go all-out.

Jamaal Williams, RB, Brigham Young (7, 7): The Packers were looking for a heavy-duty complement to Ty Montgomery. Given where they took Williams, he’ll receive every chance to start the opener so Montgomery is fresh for passing situations.

The first words from just about every scout on Williams described just how hard he runs. He brings it down after down. Wayne Gallman and Marlon Mack were among the backs remaining at the time, but the Packers went with Williams because of his workhorse mentality.

Medical and off-field concerns cost Williams a few dollars and made him the 13th ball carrier selected.

Williams is a classic one-cut, downhill power runner. He can’t create. He needs a lane. He has vision, strength and a degree of elusiveness.

He delivers punishment but, as an upright runner, takes punishment. The concern is his rather linear lower body. His legs aren’t running back-thick. He looks almost like a strong safety. He’s also somewhat stiff in the hips and ankles.

His inexperience both as a pass receiver and blocker is another reason why he lasted until the 134th pick.

DeAngelo Yancey, WR, Purdue (2, 4): There were a ton of wide receivers clumped after the second round. The Packers drafted Yancey as the 25th over players like Robert Davis and Stacy Coley.

Yancey is a size-speed prospect with considerable route savvy. He has demonstrated the burst to take the top off of a defense and the understanding how to track and catch the deep ball.

The Boilermakers were 9-39 in Yancey’s four seasons, and poor quarterback play was his constant cross to bear.

We’ll see if the Packers stretched and drafted him a round or two early. The Packers want their last receiver to cover on special teams, which Jeff Janis can and both Geronimo Allison and Trevor Davis really can’t.

With his size (6-1½, 220), maybe Yancey can run down with temperament and tackle someone.

Aaron Jones, RB, Texas El-Paso (4, 5): Jones played in Conference USA for a downtrodden program that went 18-31 during his four years. His status as the Miners’ all-time leading rusher (4,114 yards) and an outstanding workout made him the 19th running back selected.

Jones played faster than his 4.58-second clocking in the 40-yard dash. He showed quickness and an explosive cutting ability, both laterally and north-south.

He’s not a heavy hitter but doesn’t go down easily, either. One scout called him a “poor man’s Frank Gore.” The Packers can only hope.

Durability and ball security are the major knocks on Jones. He fumbled nine times, and scouts all noticed. It remains to be seen just how advanced he is in the passing game.

Kofi Amichia, G, South Florida (2, 3): He started at left tackle the past two years but doesn’t have the length to play there in the NFL. Among a short list of guards, the Packers came up with Amichia and projected him inside. Given the alternatives, he was worth a shot.

What Amichia has going is athleticism. He’s a workout warrior with a 4.98 40, a vertical jump of 33½ inches and a broad jump of 9 feet 6 inches.

He’s also extremely smart, as his score of 31 on the Wonderlic intelligence test would attest.

Amichia was drafted over big-school guards like USC’s Damien Mama and Michigan’s Ben Braden. The question is whether Amichia, who played at about 292 but is now 308, possesses the power to bang physically against the space-eaters he’ll encounter on Sundays.

Drafted as a guard, the Packers can be expected to give him extensive reps at center, too.

Devante Mays, RB, Utah State (2, 2): After two years of junior-college ball, Mays carried just 202 times in 1½ seasons in the Mountain West Conference before an ankle-knee injury ended his 2016 campaign in late September.

He’s another athletic trait guy with a vertical jump of 40½, a broad jump of 10-9 and a fast 40 (4.51). The Packers made him the 22nd tailback selected because his height-weight-speed fit their profile.

Mays runs harder than Jones but not as hard as Williams. Noting his career reception total of two, one scout Sunday labeled him as a “liability” in pass protection.

Two teams surveyed Sunday had him as a free agent on their draft board.

Malachi Dupre, WR, Louisiana State (2, 4): As the 32nd wide receiver chosen, you wouldn’t expect much from this player. However, that isn’t the case.

Dupre is a third-year junior with extensive playing time in an winning program. Like Yancey, he was handicapped by lousy quarterbacking.

He’s an outside-the-numbers receiver with enough acceleration to haul in a take-off off a three- to five-step drop. He has size (6-2½, 194), speed (4.50), tremendous testing numbers and the demonstrated ability to make the circus catch.

Dupre’s chances likely will hinge on his ability to release from press coverage. He’s lean and lacks strength, and there are doubts about his willingness to work in traffic.
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Post#31 » by BucksPackers » Mon May 1, 2017 5:40 pm

Glad we got king over cook. Cook doesn't impress me at all. We can get a cook any year of the draft we can't get a king at 29 every year.
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Post#32 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon May 1, 2017 5:41 pm

BucksPackers wrote:Glad we got king over cook. Cook doesn't impress me at all. We can get a cook any year of the draft we can't get a king at 29 every year.


I dunno...I was the guy asking for literally an all defense draft but I'd have been happy with Cook. Dude reminds me of Jamaal Charles with his open-field ability.
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Post#33 » by Mags FTW » Mon May 1, 2017 6:13 pm

I was all for Cook too until I saw his 11 on the Wonderlic (you need to score a 10 to be determined literate). That scares me when it comes to reading defenses and knowing your blocking assignments.

He really has quite the rap sheet too.
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Post#34 » by phillipmike » Mon May 1, 2017 6:45 pm

BucksPackers wrote:Glad we got king over cook. Cook doesn't impress me at all. We can get a cook any year of the draft we can't get a king at 29 every year.


Completely agree with this. Packers had one of the best offenses in the league and a middle of the pack D which trended downwards. Defense needed all the help you can get and like you said players like Cook become available every draft year. Our secondary was awful and we needed help; whereas i would like to see what Ty can do in a full season.... Also have 3 young backs behind him.
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Post#35 » by Balls2TheWalls » Mon May 1, 2017 7:02 pm

Kevin King was a win pick. We were going to take him at 29, and us trading down and essentially getting Biegel as the cherry on top is a huge win. Biegel is not my favorite player. I would have preferred Lawson or Perine in that round, but one thing he does is bring it every down, and he had an incredibly high QB pressure rate. Unfortunately he missed a lot of tackles when he got the pressure, or it resulted in no sack or TFL. Biegel had 6 pressures in the Senior Bowl game, but could never quite get there. Still a huge win by Ted to trade down and get his guy.

McGinn's thought that Josh Jones might be used as a 3rd down linebacker has me much more excited about him as a player. I am all in on that pick if he has the abilities to do so.

Something else I'm all in on? Yancey and Dupre. I haven't been able to find a catch by either player where the QB's throw was right on the money. Yancey especially. He is consistently beating Big 10 corners by 3-5 yards and gets pulled back into the CB by trash throws. I think that at 6'2 with speed that didn't show in tests that he might be able to fill the void we were hoping Trevor Davis would. Dupre is a guy that can make the circus catch. I don't know how he got to the 7th. I would love for Yancey and Dupre to push for any of the back 3 WRs positions.

I watched a lot of game film on Montravious Adams. The step up in effort and leverage from last year to this year was incredibly noticeable. The most impressive film on him, however? The Senior Bowl. He looked unblockable at the Senior Bowl. He was incredibly disruptive and popped off of the screen.

As far as running backs drafted, I'm pretty excited about Aaron Jones. He dominates on every down against equivalent talent, but if you watch him in game film against big time schools that just out talent UTEP... he still pops off the screen. Not every down, he will frequently be overwhelmed due to outclassed blocking. However, if he gets 1 on 1 with someone, he is not going to get tackled. He is too quick, and has deceptive balance. There is good game film of his team against Texas and Arkansas. You'll see him get overwhelmed a lot, but you'll also see him not being outclassed in 1 on 1, and sometimes 2 on 1 situations. Jamaal Williams is the consumate "this guy played our system" pick. He is the ideal runner style for our zone scheme. He doesn't have overwhelming speed, he doesn't break infinite tackles, but he does make 1 cut and commit to the hole he chooses. He runs hard on every down. Reminds me a little of Samkon Gado. Seems to get what is there, but isn't a homerun hitter. I got nothing on Davante Mays.

Kofi seems like a project, but since we brought in Jahri Evans, we have room for projects.

My favorite part about our draft is not that we got faster, and bigger. I do like those things. What I like the most is that the Packers brought in intense players. Kevin King walks around with a swagger that I appreciate. Josh Jones likes to hit. Montravious Adams finally got his motor in line and started dominating like he should have been for 3 years. Biegel is probably the most intense guy in the draft. That guy runs with a young Clay Matthews' motor (obviously not his talent). Our defense needed intensity. Bringing in guys who like to hit and get all over the field (RJF was also a great add for this) is something that I feel like we have been lacking.
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Post#36 » by bdpecore » Mon May 1, 2017 7:16 pm

Mags FTW wrote:I was all for Cook too until I saw his 11 on the Wonderlic (you need to score a 10 to be determined literate). That scares me when it comes to reading defenses and knowing your blocking assignments.

He really has quite the rap sheet too.

A perfect comparison would be the recently cut Christine Michael. Dude was an atheistic freak but couldn't be depended on to know which way the handoff was coming from. It's very possible Cook becomes the next Charles but I'd still rather have a freak athlete at CB than in the backfield.
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Post#37 » by askdavescat » Mon May 1, 2017 7:24 pm

Balls2TheWalls wrote:Something else I'm all in on? Yancey and Dupre. I haven't been able to find a catch by either player where the QB's throw was right on the money. Yancey especially. He is consistently beating Big 10 corners by 3-5 yards and gets pulled back into the CB by trash throws. I think that at 6'2 with speed that didn't show in tests that he might be able to fill the void we were hoping Trevor Davis would. Dupre is a guy that can make the circus catch. I don't know how he got to the 7th. I would love for Yancey and Dupre to push for any of the back 3 WRs positions.


GB already had six WR's at the end of last year. So who's out?

I think Janis is obvious, but unless they think they can sneak Dupre to the PS and keep him there, you're looking at starting the season with seven WR's again.

Myself, I'm not ready to give up on Davis, I think he just needed a year to put some good weight on and learn how to be a pro.

So, anybody else kinda sorta hoping that Cobb is the surprise cut at the end of training camp this year?
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Re: Draft Grades Thread... 

Post#38 » by crkone » Mon May 1, 2017 7:29 pm

Whoever comes out as the best of the fringe WRs should make it regardless of where they were drafted. It's almost mandatory they play STs though so unless Davis can be more consistent or Allison can contribute I think they are done.

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Re: Draft Grades Thread... 

Post#39 » by bdpecore » Mon May 1, 2017 7:40 pm

My guess is Janis is out and Dupre or Yancey gets placed on the practice squad. This draft class was backloaded with good WRs so I think we should have no problem sneaking one through waivers.


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Re: Draft Grades Thread... 

Post#40 » by Balls2TheWalls » Mon May 1, 2017 8:05 pm

askdavescat wrote:
Balls2TheWalls wrote:Something else I'm all in on? Yancey and Dupre. I haven't been able to find a catch by either player where the QB's throw was right on the money. Yancey especially. He is consistently beating Big 10 corners by 3-5 yards and gets pulled back into the CB by trash throws. I think that at 6'2 with speed that didn't show in tests that he might be able to fill the void we were hoping Trevor Davis would. Dupre is a guy that can make the circus catch. I don't know how he got to the 7th. I would love for Yancey and Dupre to push for any of the back 3 WRs positions.


GB already had six WR's at the end of last year. So who's out?

I think Janis is obvious, but unless they think they can sneak Dupre to the PS and keep him there, you're looking at starting the season with seven WR's again.

Myself, I'm not ready to give up on Davis, I think he just needed a year to put some good weight on and learn how to be a pro.

So, anybody else kinda sorta hoping that Cobb is the surprise cut at the end of training camp this year?


Janis is an elite special teams player. I would expect Geronimo and Trevor Davis to be on notice if these guys can light it up.
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