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ReasonablySober wrote:M-C-G wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Have you guys even heard or read the **** Dorsey's said since becoming GM? The guy is a meathead.
Are you talking about since he became a GM period or the stuff he has said while in CLE?
Haven't paid attention to him in KC, just the stuff since he's gone to Cleveland.
ReasonablySober wrote:Have you guys even heard or read the **** Dorsey's said since becoming GM? The guy is a meathead.
Pass Protection: 22/25
Run Blocking: 16/20
Power: 16/20
Agility: 20/25
Position Value: 9/10
Overall Grade: 83/100
Green Bay's David Bakhtiari emerged as an elite pass protector in 2016, and despite missing four games in 2017, he still turned in an All-Pro-caliber 2017 season. Bakhtiari gave up just one sack on the season per our charting and used sound technique and agility to open lanes in the running game. His stellar campaign is easy to overlook with the lack of overall success for the Packers and the Aaron Rodgers injury, but Green Bay has a franchise left tackle it can continue to build around as it shuffles personnel not only on the field, but in the front office as well.
—NFL1000 OT Scout Duke Manyweather
A fourth-round pick in 2013, Bakhtiari was pressed into service as Green Bay's starting left tackle in his rookie campaign, and he's been there ever since. The technique fixes he's undergone since then show up on tape, and they make him the NFL's most consistent pass-blocker right now. Bakhtiari comes off the snap very quickly with efficient footwork.
His arc isn't always pretty in a Joe Thomas sense, but he's strong and athletic enough to make it work. And given that he's blocked for two highly mobile quarterbacks in Aaron Rodgers and Brett Hundley, Bakhtiari's insistence on not giving up sacks and pressures is even more impressive, as is the fact that he does this in a limited passing offense that forces its quarterbacks to hold the ball longer than they'd like.
—NFL1000 Lead Scout Doug Farrar
ReasonablySober wrote:David Bakhtiari is the best LT in the game.Pass Protection: 22/25
Run Blocking: 16/20
Power: 16/20
Agility: 20/25
Position Value: 9/10
Overall Grade: 83/100
Green Bay's David Bakhtiari emerged as an elite pass protector in 2016, and despite missing four games in 2017, he still turned in an All-Pro-caliber 2017 season. Bakhtiari gave up just one sack on the season per our charting and used sound technique and agility to open lanes in the running game. His stellar campaign is easy to overlook with the lack of overall success for the Packers and the Aaron Rodgers injury, but Green Bay has a franchise left tackle it can continue to build around as it shuffles personnel not only on the field, but in the front office as well.
—NFL1000 OT Scout Duke Manyweather
A fourth-round pick in 2013, Bakhtiari was pressed into service as Green Bay's starting left tackle in his rookie campaign, and he's been there ever since. The technique fixes he's undergone since then show up on tape, and they make him the NFL's most consistent pass-blocker right now. Bakhtiari comes off the snap very quickly with efficient footwork.
His arc isn't always pretty in a Joe Thomas sense, but he's strong and athletic enough to make it work. And given that he's blocked for two highly mobile quarterbacks in Aaron Rodgers and Brett Hundley, Bakhtiari's insistence on not giving up sacks and pressures is even more impressive, as is the fact that he does this in a limited passing offense that forces its quarterbacks to hold the ball longer than they'd like.
—NFL1000 Lead Scout Doug Farrar
humanrefutation wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Have you guys even heard or read the **** Dorsey's said since becoming GM? The guy is a meathead.
Yeah, he definitely rubbed me the wrong way with how he presented himself after he was hired in Cleveland. But that doesn't mean he isn't a good GM.
bizarro wrote:humanrefutation wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:Have you guys even heard or read the **** Dorsey's said since becoming GM? The guy is a meathead.
Yeah, he definitely rubbed me the wrong way with how he presented himself after he was hired in Cleveland. But that doesn't mean he isn't a good GM.
For the lazily inclined in this department, can anyone give some snippets of what rubbed the rhubarb the wrong way?
CLEVELAND, Ohio -- Browns new GM John Dorsey didn't hold back on his assessment of the previous regime, one that was 1-27 when Sashi Brown was fired last week.
"You know what? You've got to get (Hue Jackson) players,'' Dorsey told the "Really Big Show'' with Aaron Goldhammer on WKNR 850, the radio home of the Browns. "And you know what? I'll come straight out with it. The guys who were here before, that system, they didn't get real players."
It was a strong condemnation of the analytics-based front office, one that didn't have an experienced evaluator on the executive team.
"As Bill Parcells would always say, 'you are your record' and you know what? There it is, so that's the truth-teller in this thing,'' said Dorsey. "And I'm going to do my darnedest to get Hue players.
"And that's all I can ask for, and that's all I'm going to do. I like the man.''
Dorsey also refused to guarantee that Jackson will be back in 2018.
"I live in the present and I build for the future,'' he said. "Right now the sun's out, the tarps are coming out, we're practicing outside, we're getting ready to play the Baltimore Ravens and that's my sole focus. And then it's also getting familiar with the whole layout and the organizational structure.''
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crkone wrote:Again, WTF is an NFL1000 Scout? If I start a blog can I become an NFL2000 Scout?
ReasonablySober wrote:crkone wrote:Again, WTF is an NFL1000 Scout? If I start a blog can I become an NFL2000 Scout?
Doug Farrar is really good at his job.
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crkone wrote:ReasonablySober wrote:crkone wrote:Again, WTF is an NFL1000 Scout? If I start a blog can I become an NFL2000 Scout?
Doug Farrar is really good at his job.
Ah so I could only be an NFL500 scout.
The Green Bay Packers will not play in London in 2018.
The NFL announced three games scheduled for London in the coming season. It did not announce plans for a game in Mexico City, but the Packers aren't expected to go there, either.
The London schedule includes Seattle Seahawks vs. Oakland Raiders, Tottenham stadium, Oct. 14; Philadelphia Eagles vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, Wembley Stadium, Oct. 21 or 28; Tennessee Titans vs. Los Angeles Chargers, Wembley Stadium, Oct. 21 or 28.
The Eagles, Titans and Seahawks are playing their first overseas games. Only the Packers and Carolina Panthers have not played a foreign game since the NFL began this initiative in 2007. The Packers did play a preseason game against the Kansas City Chiefs in 1998 in Tokyo.
Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy has said the Packers are willing to play overseas, but they will not give up a home game to do so. Green Bay is the smallest market in the NFL and the loss of a home Packers game would have a disproportionate effect on the local economy.
But teams hosting the Packers have been equally reluctant to give up a home game because Green Bay travels exceptionally well and usually fill stadiums.
MickeyDavis wrote:I don't cut Cobb unless we have a better option in place. If there is a free agent we can get who is as good/better at a good price great. Otherwise it's Cobb's last year anyway so keep him. Rodgers needs receivers. I don't see Ty (if he moves back), Davis, Allison, Clark, etc... as being more than fringe players.
MickeyDavis wrote:The Green Bay Packers will not play in London in 2018.
The NFL announced three games scheduled for London in the coming season. It did not announce plans for a game in Mexico City, but the Packers aren't expected to go there, either.
The London schedule includes Seattle Seahawks vs. Oakland Raiders, Tottenham stadium, Oct. 14; Philadelphia Eagles vs. Jacksonville Jaguars, Wembley Stadium, Oct. 21 or 28; Tennessee Titans vs. Los Angeles Chargers, Wembley Stadium, Oct. 21 or 28.
The Eagles, Titans and Seahawks are playing their first overseas games. Only the Packers and Carolina Panthers have not played a foreign game since the NFL began this initiative in 2007. The Packers did play a preseason game against the Kansas City Chiefs in 1998 in Tokyo.
Packers President and CEO Mark Murphy has said the Packers are willing to play overseas, but they will not give up a home game to do so. Green Bay is the smallest market in the NFL and the loss of a home Packers game would have a disproportionate effect on the local economy.
But teams hosting the Packers have been equally reluctant to give up a home game because Green Bay travels exceptionally well and usually fill stadiums.
M-C-G wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:I don't cut Cobb unless we have a better option in place. If there is a free agent we can get who is as good/better at a good price great. Otherwise it's Cobb's last year anyway so keep him. Rodgers needs receivers. I don't see Ty (if he moves back), Davis, Allison, Clark, etc... as being more than fringe players.
Cobb's cap hit is 12M this year and I believe 3M if you cut him. I would much rather pay any of the following on a 2 to 3 year deal which I suspect will be about 1/3rd the cost
Kendall Wright
Ryan Grant
John Brown
Marquis Lee
Donte Moncrief
And maybe Jarvis Landry, who won't make what Cobb makes but will be more than the guys I listed. Any of those guys are likely locks to produce what Cobb has put up at a fraction of the cost.
Flames24Rulz wrote:M-C-G wrote:MickeyDavis wrote:I don't cut Cobb unless we have a better option in place. If there is a free agent we can get who is as good/better at a good price great. Otherwise it's Cobb's last year anyway so keep him. Rodgers needs receivers. I don't see Ty (if he moves back), Davis, Allison, Clark, etc... as being more than fringe players.
Cobb's cap hit is 12M this year and I believe 3M if you cut him. I would much rather pay any of the following on a 2 to 3 year deal which I suspect will be about 1/3rd the cost
Kendall Wright
Ryan Grant
John Brown
Marquis Lee
Donte Moncrief
And maybe Jarvis Landry, who won't make what Cobb makes but will be more than the guys I listed. Any of those guys are likely locks to produce what Cobb has put up at a fraction of the cost.
I'm not saying Cobb is a top 10 WR or anything ridiculous like that, but he's better than those guys. Pretty easily too, IMO.
The cap shouldn't be a concern, even with three WR's making $10 million plus next year. It's a one time thing, that will drop as soon as Jordy is a FA/retires after 2018. I'm hesitant cutting a good player, all to save a little bit of money, when you're not really in a position where you have to save money. And like I said earlier, I think Jordy would agree to restructure his deal, worse comes to worse.