2018 Packers Offseason Thread - No Progress on Rodgers Extension (pg 60)

[neiLz]

I don't mind the opt out. If he's still the best player in the NFL let him opt out. Then you negotiate with him again. Just go yearly. If he's still the best he's worth it. The front office should then take it year by year and make first year of said contract guaranteed. If he sucks they can cut him. If he's still goat renegotiate and make first year again guaranteed with remaining ng'd years. That's the old Michael Jordan contract back in the day.

[RRyder823]

It's simple. This gets used as a negotiating tactic. If you give him the opt out then you don't give him the scaling cap percentage based salary he wants.

If you give him one he doesnt get the other. It's all just negotiating. Not a whole lot to get worked up over at this point

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[humanrefutation]

I don't mind the opt out. If he's still the best player in the NFL let him opt out. Then you negotiate with him again. Just go yearly. If he's still the best he's worth it. The front office should then take it year by year and make first year of said contract guaranteed. If he sucks they can cut him. If he's still goat renegotiate and make first year again guaranteed with remaining ng'd years. That's the old Michael Jordan contract back in the day.

There's a zero percent chance Rodgers agrees to that. He's not going year-to-year unless he has an option he can exercise.

[neiLz]

I don't mind the opt out. If he's still the best player in the NFL let him opt out. Then you negotiate with him again. Just go yearly. If he's still the best he's worth it. The front office should then take it year by year and make first year of said contract guaranteed. If he sucks they can cut him. If he's still goat renegotiate and make first year again guaranteed with remaining ng'd years. That's the old Michael Jordan contract back in the day.

There's a zero percent chance Rodgers agrees to that. He's not going year-to-year unless he has an option he can exercise.

You give him a multi year deal but only make the first year guaranteed but give him an opt out the first year. This gives him the opt out he wants and the packers have an option as well since the future years are non guaranteed and they can cut.

[M-C-G]

Give him what he wants and then tell him why we are going back to draft and develop.


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[humanrefutation]

I don't mind the opt out. If he's still the best player in the NFL let him opt out. Then you negotiate with him again. Just go yearly. If he's still the best he's worth it. The front office should then take it year by year and make first year of said contract guaranteed. If he sucks they can cut him. If he's still goat renegotiate and make first year again guaranteed with remaining ng'd years. That's the old Michael Jordan contract back in the day.

There's a zero percent chance Rodgers agrees to that. He's not going year-to-year unless he has an option he can exercise.

You give him a multi year deal but only make the first year guaranteed but give him an opt out the first year. This gives him the opt out he wants and the packers have an option as well since the future years are non guaranteed and they can cut.

Well, all NFL contracts are pretty much non-guaranteed. The only think that's guaranteed is the signing bonus. I don't think we've had a fully guaranteed contract of that size in the league.

But besides that, there's no way that Rodgers signs a deal that only guarantees one year of salary. That's not going to happen. He might consider a year-to-year with a player option, but no way he signs one that has a team option like that.

[Mags FTW]

Bill Barnell thinks GB is the best fit for Dez:

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/23668225/best-fits-unsigned-2018-nfl-free-agents-landing-spots-dez-bryant-more

[Lippo]

There's a zero percent chance Rodgers agrees to that. He's not going year-to-year unless he has an option he can exercise.

You give him a multi year deal but only make the first year guaranteed but give him an opt out the first year. This gives him the opt out he wants and the packers have an option as well since the future years are non guaranteed and they can cut.

Well, all NFL contracts are pretty much non-guaranteed. The only think that's guaranteed is the signing bonus. I don't think we've had a fully guaranteed contract of that size in the league.

But besides that, there's no way that Rodgers signs a deal that only guarantees one year of salary. That's not going to happen. He might consider a year-to-year with a player option, but no way he signs one that has a team option like that.

He's under contract for 2 more years, then we can franchise him for 2 more, that keeps him til 39 years of age for less than 125m and nothing is guaranteed past a year incase a career ending shattered collarbone ala Romo, lets just do that.

[MickeyDavis]

We drafted 3 WR's. I don't see signing Dez.

[RRyder823]

We drafted 3 WR's. I don't see signing Dez.

I'm not for signing Dez but drafting 3 WRs, (2 of which were late round guys), should have very little to do with it.

I'd be mildly surprised for 2 of them to both make the final roster and be active on game day. Much less factoring them into whether we should bring in a guy or not

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[TankWilson]

We drafted 3 WR's. I don't see signing Dez.

I'm not for signing Dez but drafting 3 WRs, (2 of which were late round guys), should have very little to do with it.

I'd be mildly surprised for 2 of them to both make the final roster and be active on game day. Much less factoring them into whether we should bring in a guy or not

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It is a factor tho, they like all 3 and still like yancey decently. Coupled with dez's decline and character that boy ain't coming and I say good!

[RiotPunch]

Ran into Mike Daniels today, just like I did last year around this time, as he's in LA again for E3. He's super pumped about the defense. Says the young corners were picking off Aaron a lot in practice. Seems very optimistic about the season, just as I'm super optimistic he'll hook it up with tix to the Pack/Rams game in LA.

[M-C-G]

Ran into Mike Daniels today, just like I did last year around this time, as he's in LA again for E3. He's super pumped about the defense. Says the young corners were picking off Aaron a lot in practice. Seems very optimistic about the season, just as I'm super optimistic he'll hook it up with tix to the Pack/Rams game in LA.

I think it was Mike Klements on the fan that said Biegel was looking fantastic getting to the QB in the two minute drills...can't recall if he used the word unstoppable or the offense couldn't stop him from getting there, or something along those lines.

Lots of reasons to be excited about the defense this year. On offense, might take some time for Rodgers to get comfortable throwing to any of these young guys, I'd suspect we'll see Adams, Cobb, Allison as our first three WR.

[MickeyDavis]

Adhering to recent tradition, Green Bay Packers coach Mike McCarthy excused a group of veterans from this week’s three-day minicamp beginning Tuesday at Ray Nitschke Field. It marks the third straight year he has done so.
McCarthy told reporters Tuesday that 16 veterans, including quarterback Aaron Rodgers, are exempt from camp and start their summers early.

“Well, the format for this camp is similar to the last couple of years and we have a vet-select opportunity,” McCarthy said.

“Sixteen veterans that have been excused from the camp and that’s really twofold: They deserve it, where they are particularly in their career, and as we all know, the second part is there’s only so many reps that you can accomplish throughout the offseason.

“So really focused on the veterans there through the (organized team activities) and now the focus will … be exclusively for our young players. So this is a huge opportunity and it’s really the same message I gave the players this morning and last Thursday is we’ve got to take a jump as a football team. You see it every year, young guys start to figure it out.”

Besides Rodgers, the other 15 veterans who have the required experience (entering their sixth season or more) to skip the otherwise mandatory minicamp are receiver Randall Cobb, tight ends Jimmy Graham, Marcedes Lewis and Lance Kendricks, offensive linemen David Bakhtiari, Bryan Bulaga, Lane Taylor and Byron Bell, defensive linemen Mike Daniels and Muhammad Wilkerson, linebackers Clay Matthews and Nick Perry, cornerbacks Tramon Williams and Davon House and kicker Mason Crosby.
McCarthy said he and his coaching staff work together to decide which veterans should be excused from minicamp each year.

“Each and every year we take a look at the roster,” McCarthy said. “But the other part of the focus, and really the focus for myself, is what goes on in these four practices for our young players.”

While the decision to excuse the veterans is nothing new, the decision remains an interesting one in an era when McCarthy and his staff lament the practice restrictions of the league’s collective bargaining agreement. The Packers’ coaches and players routinely discuss the importance of each rep given the scarcity of allotted practice time, and allowing the veterans to miss the mandatory minicamp could be viewed as increasing that strain.

McCarthy, though, doesn’t view it that way.

“Well, I think you’re looking at it from the other side of the spectrum,” McCarthy said. “We are maximizing the reps and tailoring them to the group that probably needs them more. So that’s the theory behind it. It works. We’ve seen the improvement just after evaluating our team and our players.

“There’s things that these young guys need, and the most important thing these guys need is they need team reps, they need the opportunity in the classroom to speak up. You’ve got to tailor the lesson plans to them. You always tailor to the youngest guy in the room, but it gives us an opportunity to really, really focus in on going back to the base instillations.”

» One Packers veteran who was on the practice field Tuesday was safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, who did not participate in the OTAs for what McCarthy called a "personal" reason.

[BUCKnation]

Ran into Mike Daniels today, just like I did last year around this time, as he's in LA again for E3. He's super pumped about the defense. Says the young corners were picking off Aaron a lot in practice. Seems very optimistic about the season, just as I'm super optimistic he'll hook it up with tix to the Pack/Rams game in LA.

What if Rodgers sucks now?

[RiotPunch]

Ran into Mike Daniels today, just like I did last year around this time, as he's in LA again for E3. He's super pumped about the defense. Says the young corners were picking off Aaron a lot in practice. Seems very optimistic about the season, just as I'm super optimistic he'll hook it up with tix to the Pack/Rams game in LA.

What if Rodgers sucks now?

[WeekapaugGroove]

So whats up with the winston moss vs the media fued I'm seeing on pack twitter today?

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[crkone]

So whats up with the winston moss vs the media fued I'm seeing on pack twitter today?

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He never gives straight answers and acts like he doesn't want to be there. He's just a complete douche up there.

[jakecronus8]

Haha complaining about a new contract is laughable. Save for one season, dude has been the definition of "just a guy" out there. Wouldn't blink an eye if they let him walk.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Haha complaining about a new contract is laughable. Save for one season, dude has been the definition of "just a guy" out there. Wouldn't blink an eye if they let him walk.

Yes, him posturing like he did much last year is pretty sad. He looked like a shell of himself. If he proves it in Pettine's system, then I will be all for extending him.