trwi7 wrote:paulpressey25 wrote:trwi7 wrote:This is literally like having your cake and eating it too. We not only got a guy that was in our 15-20 player tier but we also got a future 1st out of the deal and it only cost us a 3rd. That's insane value by Gutekunst.
I tend to think their moves last night were fantastic.
However so much comes back to whether or not there is a performance gap between Derwin James and Jaire. If there is a massive gap in favor of James over the next few years then it doesn't look so good.
Feel the same about last years situations. Packers could have taken Watt but traded our and took King. If Watt ends up being a far superior player, it backfires.
They have to be right on their scouting.
Ehh, the Watt thing is a lot different because we only picked up a 4th. It's not just the difference between James/Edmunds and Alexander either. What we do with the Saints pick next year needs to be factored in. If we get an all-pro with that pick but Alexander is only "good", then we still come out ahead unless James or Edmunds turns into a HOF talent or something.
Agreed!
It's a risk either way. Personally, I want more bites at the apple. Maybe James is better than Alexander, maybe Edmunds is, or maybe they all three end up being busts. Anyone who wanted a guy like Edmunds or Davenport has to realize (more than likely) that is basically the equivalent of a future first. I don't see either of those two making a huge impact this year at all because they both have a lot of developing to do. It could end up like the Bucks taking Giannis or like the Raptors taking Bruno Caboclo.
"Having our cake and eating it too" is the perfect analogy. We got an experienced productive player and a future first that more than likely ends up between 10-20. From the sounds of it, we were looking at Jaire at 14 anyways. So anyone whining about value or lack thereof makes no sense, because we could have just sat at 14 and that's that.
Now let's say a team gets tired of a star player (similar to Chiefs with Marcus Peters this year) we can get it on that because we have two firsts. Or if a team like Indy or Cleveland (having multiple seconds today) decide they want that first and offer two high seconds for that future first, we can do that too. We have so many options this way, or we could have hitched our wagon to one player. Yes, it sucks if Derwin James becomes the next Kam Chancellor but there is just as good of a chance for Jaire Alexander to become the next Darrell Green.
We caught a team that didn't have a 2nd round pick and really wanted to move up for a player with their pants down and we took full advantage.