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Post#1 » by M-C-G » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:49 pm

Alright guys, just starting to get into my studying for this year and like having a thread where we can bounce some stuff off the collective. Please try to answer a question before asking.

I'll go ahead and get us rolling with the first question of the year. Who are your top 5 or so rookies from this draft class you have your eye on for dynasty this year?

As a primer, PFF did a mock 2020 ff draft and here is the first round

ROUND 1
1. Saquon Barkley, RB, New York Giants (23): It’ll take only two seasons for Barkley to be the top player picked in fantasy drafts. By 2020, its likely Eli Manning is no longer the quarterback for the Giants and Barkley will have the carry the load for a young and/or inexperienced quarterback. Plus, there’s just not going to be many true bell-cow running backs left that can rack up the points on the ground and in the air.

2. Derrius Guice, RB, Washington Redskins (23): This may look like a big leap now, but I predict Guice has a huge second year in 2019 and is talked about in the same breath as Barkley and Todd Gurley. He had a first-round grade in the 2018 draft and enters a situation that could produce a bell-cow workload. It’s a perfect storm for a talented back like Guice to be a top fantasy pick.

3. Todd Gurley, RB, Los Angeles Rams (26): Gurley will be 26 and a five-year vet by the 2020 season, so a decline is around the corner, but he will still be a focal point of a potent Rams offense and scoring at will.

4. Dalvin Cook, RB, Minnesota Vikings (25): Cook will be one of the last backs of this top tier thanks to his contributions in the passing game ramping up in 2019. 2020 will be the third year of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota and the offense should be running like a well-oiled machine by then, a machine that will center on Cook.

5. Mike Evans, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27): He’s topped 1,000 yards in each of his first four years playing with a handful of inconsistent players on offense. If young Bucs Ronald Jones, Chris Godwin, and O.J. Howard — not to mention quarterback Jameis Winston — all pan out, Tampa Bay’s offense could be scary good in 2020 and Evans will be the primary beneficiary.

6. Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans Saints (27): Thomas will continue to be the top target in New Orleans no matter who the quarterback is, and it will most certainly be someone other than Drew Brees. Even this past year when the Saints passed it much less than previous years, Thomas still topped 100 receptions and 1,200 yards and totaled at least 80 yards or a touchdown in 10 of 16 games this season.

7. Rashaad Penny, RB, Seattle Seahawks (24): Russell Wilson will only be getting older and the Seahawks will be shifting even more of the offense to the run game. They’ll also have another year to draft or sign much needed improvements to the offensive line which will only help Penny as he attempts to recreate the Marshawn Lynch era in Seattle.

8. Kareem Hunt, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (25): 2020 will represent the third year of the Patrick Mahomes era and if he’s as good as the Chiefs hope he is, Hunt will have plenty of opportunity to score fantasy points.

9. Davante Adams, WR, Green Bay Packers (27): Adams will still be the top target for Aaron Rodgers in 2020 especially after the likes of Jimmy Graham and Randall Cobb move on. And at just 27, he’ll be a first-round fantasy pick a few times.

10. Corey Davis, WR, Tennessee Titans (25): By 2020, Davis will have had two full seasons to showcase why he was a top-10 pick in the actual draft. His rise will coincide with quarterback Marcus Mariota’s as the Titans properly build around the quarterback and his primary target.

11. Alvin Kamara, RB, New Orleans Saints (25): There is no question that Mark Ingram will be out of the picture in New Orleans by 2020 and the run game will be all Kamara while still contributing in the passing game.

12. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Carolina Panthers (24): McCaffrey should see more rush attempts by 2020, which will complement his fantasy-friendly receiving numbers, sneaking him into the back-end of the first round of PPR drafts.
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Re: 2018 FF Thread - Answer one, Ask one 

Post#2 » by MVP2110 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 2:38 am

M-C-G wrote:Alright guys, just starting to get into my studying for this year and like having a thread where we can bounce some stuff off the collective. Please try to answer a question before asking.

I'll go ahead and get us rolling with the first question of the year. Who are your top 5 or so rookies from this draft class you have your eye on for dynasty this year?

As a primer, PFF did a mock 2020 ff draft and here is the first round

ROUND 1
1. Saquon Barkley, RB, New York Giants (23): It’ll take only two seasons for Barkley to be the top player picked in fantasy drafts. By 2020, its likely Eli Manning is no longer the quarterback for the Giants and Barkley will have the carry the load for a young and/or inexperienced quarterback. Plus, there’s just not going to be many true bell-cow running backs left that can rack up the points on the ground and in the air.

2. Derrius Guice, RB, Washington Redskins (23): This may look like a big leap now, but I predict Guice has a huge second year in 2019 and is talked about in the same breath as Barkley and Todd Gurley. He had a first-round grade in the 2018 draft and enters a situation that could produce a bell-cow workload. It’s a perfect storm for a talented back like Guice to be a top fantasy pick.

3. Todd Gurley, RB, Los Angeles Rams (26): Gurley will be 26 and a five-year vet by the 2020 season, so a decline is around the corner, but he will still be a focal point of a potent Rams offense and scoring at will.

4. Dalvin Cook, RB, Minnesota Vikings (25): Cook will be one of the last backs of this top tier thanks to his contributions in the passing game ramping up in 2019. 2020 will be the third year of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota and the offense should be running like a well-oiled machine by then, a machine that will center on Cook.

5. Mike Evans, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27): He’s topped 1,000 yards in each of his first four years playing with a handful of inconsistent players on offense. If young Bucs Ronald Jones, Chris Godwin, and O.J. Howard — not to mention quarterback Jameis Winston — all pan out, Tampa Bay’s offense could be scary good in 2020 and Evans will be the primary beneficiary.

6. Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans Saints (27): Thomas will continue to be the top target in New Orleans no matter who the quarterback is, and it will most certainly be someone other than Drew Brees. Even this past year when the Saints passed it much less than previous years, Thomas still topped 100 receptions and 1,200 yards and totaled at least 80 yards or a touchdown in 10 of 16 games this season.

7. Rashaad Penny, RB, Seattle Seahawks (24): Russell Wilson will only be getting older and the Seahawks will be shifting even more of the offense to the run game. They’ll also have another year to draft or sign much needed improvements to the offensive line which will only help Penny as he attempts to recreate the Marshawn Lynch era in Seattle.

8. Kareem Hunt, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (25): 2020 will represent the third year of the Patrick Mahomes era and if he’s as good as the Chiefs hope he is, Hunt will have plenty of opportunity to score fantasy points.

9. Davante Adams, WR, Green Bay Packers (27): Adams will still be the top target for Aaron Rodgers in 2020 especially after the likes of Jimmy Graham and Randall Cobb move on. And at just 27, he’ll be a first-round fantasy pick a few times.

10. Corey Davis, WR, Tennessee Titans (25): By 2020, Davis will have had two full seasons to showcase why he was a top-10 pick in the actual draft. His rise will coincide with quarterback Marcus Mariota’s as the Titans properly build around the quarterback and his primary target.

11. Alvin Kamara, RB, New Orleans Saints (25): There is no question that Mark Ingram will be out of the picture in New Orleans by 2020 and the run game will be all Kamara while still contributing in the passing game.

12. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Carolina Panthers (24): McCaffrey should see more rush attempts by 2020, which will complement his fantasy-friendly receiving numbers, sneaking him into the back-end of the first round of PPR drafts.



So to answer your question,

1. Barkley
2. Guice
3. Jones
4. Michel/Chubb

which leads to my question, I'm in a dynasty draft with the 6th pick. .5 ppr & both Michel & Chubb are both still on the board. Who do you think I should take?
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Re: 2018 FF Thread - Answer one, Ask one 

Post#3 » by IrishRainbow » Wed Aug 8, 2018 3:24 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Alright guys, just starting to get into my studying for this year and like having a thread where we can bounce some stuff off the collective. Please try to answer a question before asking.

I'll go ahead and get us rolling with the first question of the year. Who are your top 5 or so rookies from this draft class you have your eye on for dynasty this year?

As a primer, PFF did a mock 2020 ff draft and here is the first round

ROUND 1
1. Saquon Barkley, RB, New York Giants (23): It’ll take only two seasons for Barkley to be the top player picked in fantasy drafts. By 2020, its likely Eli Manning is no longer the quarterback for the Giants and Barkley will have the carry the load for a young and/or inexperienced quarterback. Plus, there’s just not going to be many true bell-cow running backs left that can rack up the points on the ground and in the air.

2. Derrius Guice, RB, Washington Redskins (23): This may look like a big leap now, but I predict Guice has a huge second year in 2019 and is talked about in the same breath as Barkley and Todd Gurley. He had a first-round grade in the 2018 draft and enters a situation that could produce a bell-cow workload. It’s a perfect storm for a talented back like Guice to be a top fantasy pick.

3. Todd Gurley, RB, Los Angeles Rams (26): Gurley will be 26 and a five-year vet by the 2020 season, so a decline is around the corner, but he will still be a focal point of a potent Rams offense and scoring at will.

4. Dalvin Cook, RB, Minnesota Vikings (25): Cook will be one of the last backs of this top tier thanks to his contributions in the passing game ramping up in 2019. 2020 will be the third year of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota and the offense should be running like a well-oiled machine by then, a machine that will center on Cook.

5. Mike Evans, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27): He’s topped 1,000 yards in each of his first four years playing with a handful of inconsistent players on offense. If young Bucs Ronald Jones, Chris Godwin, and O.J. Howard — not to mention quarterback Jameis Winston — all pan out, Tampa Bay’s offense could be scary good in 2020 and Evans will be the primary beneficiary.

6. Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans Saints (27): Thomas will continue to be the top target in New Orleans no matter who the quarterback is, and it will most certainly be someone other than Drew Brees. Even this past year when the Saints passed it much less than previous years, Thomas still topped 100 receptions and 1,200 yards and totaled at least 80 yards or a touchdown in 10 of 16 games this season.

7. Rashaad Penny, RB, Seattle Seahawks (24): Russell Wilson will only be getting older and the Seahawks will be shifting even more of the offense to the run game. They’ll also have another year to draft or sign much needed improvements to the offensive line which will only help Penny as he attempts to recreate the Marshawn Lynch era in Seattle.

8. Kareem Hunt, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (25): 2020 will represent the third year of the Patrick Mahomes era and if he’s as good as the Chiefs hope he is, Hunt will have plenty of opportunity to score fantasy points.

9. Davante Adams, WR, Green Bay Packers (27): Adams will still be the top target for Aaron Rodgers in 2020 especially after the likes of Jimmy Graham and Randall Cobb move on. And at just 27, he’ll be a first-round fantasy pick a few times.

10. Corey Davis, WR, Tennessee Titans (25): By 2020, Davis will have had two full seasons to showcase why he was a top-10 pick in the actual draft. His rise will coincide with quarterback Marcus Mariota’s as the Titans properly build around the quarterback and his primary target.

11. Alvin Kamara, RB, New Orleans Saints (25): There is no question that Mark Ingram will be out of the picture in New Orleans by 2020 and the run game will be all Kamara while still contributing in the passing game.

12. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Carolina Panthers (24): McCaffrey should see more rush attempts by 2020, which will complement his fantasy-friendly receiving numbers, sneaking him into the back-end of the first round of PPR drafts.



So to answer your question,

1. Barkley
2. Guice
3. Jones
4. Michel/Chubb

which leads to my question, I'm in a dynasty draft with the 6th pick. .5 ppr & both Michel & Chubb are both still on the board. Who do you think I should take?
I think Sony gets the initial nod...but after this year I think Chubb is the get.



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Post#4 » by IrishRainbow » Wed Aug 8, 2018 3:32 pm

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Keeper rules...

PPR...2 Keepers. Keepers are at a cost of the drafted position. A max of 7th round. So 7th round and beyond and FA grabs are 7th round costs.

No first round keeps. I drafted OBJ but AROD was grabbed as a FA after he went down. So OBJ is not keeper eligible, while AROD would cost a 7th as a FA.

I'm leaning Zeke(4th)/Kamara(FA-7th).

I generally wait on QBs...and would look for Watson around 6-7th...does AROD push Kamara?

Or...I could keep Kamara and ARod for a 7th/8th...

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Post#5 » by M-C-G » Wed Aug 8, 2018 4:09 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:Alright guys, just starting to get into my studying for this year and like having a thread where we can bounce some stuff off the collective. Please try to answer a question before asking.

I'll go ahead and get us rolling with the first question of the year. Who are your top 5 or so rookies from this draft class you have your eye on for dynasty this year?

As a primer, PFF did a mock 2020 ff draft and here is the first round

ROUND 1
1. Saquon Barkley, RB, New York Giants (23): It’ll take only two seasons for Barkley to be the top player picked in fantasy drafts. By 2020, its likely Eli Manning is no longer the quarterback for the Giants and Barkley will have the carry the load for a young and/or inexperienced quarterback. Plus, there’s just not going to be many true bell-cow running backs left that can rack up the points on the ground and in the air.

2. Derrius Guice, RB, Washington Redskins (23): This may look like a big leap now, but I predict Guice has a huge second year in 2019 and is talked about in the same breath as Barkley and Todd Gurley. He had a first-round grade in the 2018 draft and enters a situation that could produce a bell-cow workload. It’s a perfect storm for a talented back like Guice to be a top fantasy pick.

3. Todd Gurley, RB, Los Angeles Rams (26): Gurley will be 26 and a five-year vet by the 2020 season, so a decline is around the corner, but he will still be a focal point of a potent Rams offense and scoring at will.

4. Dalvin Cook, RB, Minnesota Vikings (25): Cook will be one of the last backs of this top tier thanks to his contributions in the passing game ramping up in 2019. 2020 will be the third year of the Kirk Cousins era in Minnesota and the offense should be running like a well-oiled machine by then, a machine that will center on Cook.

5. Mike Evans, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers (27): He’s topped 1,000 yards in each of his first four years playing with a handful of inconsistent players on offense. If young Bucs Ronald Jones, Chris Godwin, and O.J. Howard — not to mention quarterback Jameis Winston — all pan out, Tampa Bay’s offense could be scary good in 2020 and Evans will be the primary beneficiary.

6. Michael Thomas, WR, New Orleans Saints (27): Thomas will continue to be the top target in New Orleans no matter who the quarterback is, and it will most certainly be someone other than Drew Brees. Even this past year when the Saints passed it much less than previous years, Thomas still topped 100 receptions and 1,200 yards and totaled at least 80 yards or a touchdown in 10 of 16 games this season.

7. Rashaad Penny, RB, Seattle Seahawks (24): Russell Wilson will only be getting older and the Seahawks will be shifting even more of the offense to the run game. They’ll also have another year to draft or sign much needed improvements to the offensive line which will only help Penny as he attempts to recreate the Marshawn Lynch era in Seattle.

8. Kareem Hunt, RB, Kansas City Chiefs (25): 2020 will represent the third year of the Patrick Mahomes era and if he’s as good as the Chiefs hope he is, Hunt will have plenty of opportunity to score fantasy points.

9. Davante Adams, WR, Green Bay Packers (27): Adams will still be the top target for Aaron Rodgers in 2020 especially after the likes of Jimmy Graham and Randall Cobb move on. And at just 27, he’ll be a first-round fantasy pick a few times.

10. Corey Davis, WR, Tennessee Titans (25): By 2020, Davis will have had two full seasons to showcase why he was a top-10 pick in the actual draft. His rise will coincide with quarterback Marcus Mariota’s as the Titans properly build around the quarterback and his primary target.

11. Alvin Kamara, RB, New Orleans Saints (25): There is no question that Mark Ingram will be out of the picture in New Orleans by 2020 and the run game will be all Kamara while still contributing in the passing game.

12. Christian McCaffrey, RB, Carolina Panthers (24): McCaffrey should see more rush attempts by 2020, which will complement his fantasy-friendly receiving numbers, sneaking him into the back-end of the first round of PPR drafts.



So to answer your question,

1. Barkley
2. Guice
3. Jones
4. Michel/Chubb

which leads to my question, I'm in a dynasty draft with the 6th pick. .5 ppr & both Michel & Chubb are both still on the board. Who do you think I should take?


Sorry, I missed this response, hopefully you didn't have your draft yet. PFF has Michel and Penney ahead of Chubb. This is a pretty good breakdown on those two guys

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THE PLAYERS
As a runner, Penny challenges Saquon Barkley as the best in this rookie class. At San Diego State last year, he forced 80 missed tackles and had the second-best elusive rating of this class on his way to rushing for almost 2,300 yards and 23 touchdowns. He had big-play ability too, turning in the third-most rushes of 15-plus yards and had the seventh-best breakaway percentage in America on top of having an insane 7.5 yards per carry over the course of his career. But for all the positives Penny has shown in the run game, his passing-game skills are a bit of an unknown and could use some work. For starters, he allowed two sacks plus seven hurries on just 66 pass-blocking snaps last year, leading to a pass-blocking efficiency rating of 88.3 percent, only 73rd in this class. As for actually catching the ball, we don’t have much data, as he had just 24 targets last season — he did catch 75 percent of them but also dropped one.

As for Michel, he performed better in the passing game to go along with slightly more experience. He gave up only two hurries on 52 pass-block snaps last year and had a 96.9 percent pass-block efficiency rating, 11th in this rookie class. He also caught over 50 percent more passes in college (64-42) despite playing in four fewer games. Interestingly enough, despite Penny being known primarily as a runner, Michel actually has more career carries, 590-488. And while Michel wasn’t at the top of the various PFF stats above like Penny, he still performed well. He averaged 6.1 yards per carry over his career including 7.9 his last season. He also forced 36 missed tackles on 157 rushes last year and had an overall elusive rating of 90.5, good for fifth in this class.

ADDITIONS AND SUBTRACTIONS
Both Michel and Penny are additions to their respective teams and actually walk into potentially conducive situations for fantasy purposes, but we’ll go ahead and look at the changes around them.

Michel steps into Dion Lewis’ shoes, which could be a very good thing. Lewis led all Patriots running backs last year with 180 carries and totaled nearly 900 yards and six scores to end the season as a top-12 fantasy running back. Michel will be running behind an offensive line that finished as the top run-blocking unit last year, according to our PFF graders, while returning four of five starters. They did lose left tackle Nate Solder to free agency but spent their other first-round pick in this year’s draft on a tackle, Michel’s Georgia teammate Isaiah Wynn. And of course, the Patriots also have all-world Rob Gronkowski who, while dominant as a pass catcher, also turned in the second-best run-blocking grade out of any tight end last year. In short, Michel walked into an excellent situation for his fantasy and real-life prospects.

The same can’t be said about Penny. Not only will be playing behind an offensive line that ranked in the bottom-10 in run-blocking, but the Seahawks didn’t even address the line until the fifth round of the draft. Nor did they seriously address it in free agency, signing only guard D.J. Fluker, who was PFF’s 56th-ranked guard last season. In fact, their best offensive linemen — Duane Brown, Justin Britt — ranked 24th and 22nd at their positions, respectively. Even their new offensive line coach, Mike Solari, doesn’t look like he’ll help. He came over from the Giants. who finished in the bottom-seven both years he was their offensive line coach. Yikes.

Fortunately for Penny, he’ll be able to run behind that dumpster fire plenty by himself. Two of the Seahawks top rushers last year, Eddie Lacy and Thomas Rawls, won’t be back. They totaled 127 carries between them. We can also expect Mike Davis, third on the team last year with 68 carries, and his 2.9 career yards-per-carry average to see a significantly reduced role as well. Between those three, that’s approximately 200 carries for Penny, and that’s with last year’s darling Chris Carson back to complement him. It would be a departure from recent history as no Seahawk running back has totaled more than 147 carries in a season since 2014, when Marshawn Lynch was still running over people, but change could be a good thing. Seattle has trained in vain to find a suitable replacement for Lynch and has failed every single time. For example, in Lynch’s last healthy season in Seattle he averaged 4.7 yards per attempt. The last three seasons (which did include a half season of Lynch)? Just 3.7. Quite simply, Penny has his work cut out for him.

BEST CASE/WORST CASE
Best case for Michel: Michel earns the trust of coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady and the Patriots fit Michel into Lewis’ 2017 role like a glove. He rushes for 1,000 yards and 6-8 touchdowns while adding 30-35 receptions to end the season as a low-end RB1.

Worst case for Michel: Michel doesn’t see snaps while playing behind veterans James White, Rex Burkhead, and even Jeremy Hill, failing to see 100 carries his rookie season and virtually no targets. He assumes the Mike Gillislee role from 2017 and finishes no better than a RB3/4.

Best case for Penny: Seattle re-commits to the run and Penny sees the same 280 carries Lynch did in 2014. The offensive line improves and Penny runs for over 1,200 yards and a half dozen scores to also finish as a low-end RB1.

Worst case for Penny: Carson eats into his workload more than expected and he and Penny are entrenched in a 50/50 split. Meanwhile, Seattle continues to only run 24-26 times a game and Penny barely sees double-digit carries a game. He finishes with between 150-175 carries and, playing behind a bad offensive line, averages less than four yards per carry and 600-700 yards and well off the fantasy radar.

THE DECISION
Sony Michel. Every indicator points to Michel from more experience in the passing game to the situation around him. Even those who get anxious about trusting any Patriots player (other than Brady and Gronkowski) due to Bill Belichick’s fickle lineup decisions should be comforted by the fact that Belichick spent a first-round pick on Michel. In Penny, even if he’s a playmaker, he seemingly will be doing it without any help.
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Post#6 » by M-C-G » Wed Aug 8, 2018 4:14 pm

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Keeper rules...

PPR...2 Keepers. Keepers are at a cost of the drafted position. A max of 7th round. So 7th round and beyond and FA grabs are 7th round costs.

No first round keeps. I drafted OBJ but AROD was grabbed as a FA after he went down. So OBJ is not keeper eligible, while AROD would cost a 7th as a FA.

I'm leaning Zeke(4th)/Kamara(FA-7th).

I generally wait on QBs...and would look for Watson around 6-7th...does AROD push Kamara?

Or...I could keep Kamara and ARod for a 7th/8th...

Thoughts?


Man, those are some funky keeper roles. I personally love to lock down one position if possible and then throw more quantity at the other position (WR vs RB). To keep Kamara and Zeke and then just roll with the value the draft board presents you would be too much for me to pass up assuming both guys are healthy.
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Post#7 » by M-C-G » Wed Aug 8, 2018 4:15 pm

Also, I am doing damn near whatever it takes to get James Conner in EVERY dynasty league. JAMES CONNER!
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Post#8 » by Turk Nowitzki » Wed Aug 8, 2018 5:11 pm

I am only here for the updates from Profound's league. Don't leave me hanging.
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Post#9 » by IrishRainbow » Thu Aug 9, 2018 6:53 pm

M-C-G wrote:
IrishRainbow wrote:http://imgur.com/a/XvwzHbc

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Keeper rules...

PPR...2 Keepers. Keepers are at a cost of the drafted position. A max of 7th round. So 7th round and beyond and FA grabs are 7th round costs.

No first round keeps. I drafted OBJ but AROD was grabbed as a FA after he went down. So OBJ is not keeper eligible, while AROD would cost a 7th as a FA.

I'm leaning Zeke(4th)/Kamara(FA-7th).

I generally wait on QBs...and would look for Watson around 6-7th...does AROD push Kamara?

Or...I could keep Kamara and ARod for a 7th/8th...

Thoughts?


Man, those are some funky keeper roles. I personally love to lock down one position if possible and then throw more quantity at the other position (WR vs RB). To keep Kamara and Zeke and then just roll with the value the draft board presents you would be too much for me to pass up assuming both guys are healthy.
Yeah...I concur with regard to locking up the RB1 RB2 and working from there. The league is a bit weird as it's a family deal so some are in it just to be in it....a couple of wives (mine included) that know a bit, but out of 12 I'd say 7/8 are actual ffb 'players'.

Had some bad luck last year but still finished 3rd. My team is worthy of some keepers that I just cant... ie AROD and Fournette. Having a full year of Zeke and NO knowing what Kam can do...especially with PPR I should be set.

Itll be interesting to see my draft slot seeing as how 1st rounders aren't keeper eligible. If I slot in top 5 do I go another top RB for flex or go elite WR...

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Post#10 » by M-C-G » Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:02 pm

Turk Nowitzki wrote:I am only here for the updates from Profound's league. Don't leave me hanging.


Didn't they kick him out of that league last year?
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Post#11 » by nmeurett » Mon Aug 13, 2018 6:01 pm

10 team 1 ppr 2 wr 1 flex 6 point qb touchdowns

I know my keepers AJ Green (2nd) Todd Gurley (4th) David Johnson (13th) my question is who do I pick in the first round. I have 4th pick and after all the keepers are taken out best players available will be Leveon Bell, OBJ, Julio Jones, Saquon Barkley, Gronk and Mike Evans. I'm guessing Bell, OBJ and Jones are gone so probably picking between Barkley and Gronk. Who would you take?

Qb
Rb Gurley
Rb Johnson
Wr Green
Wr
Te
Flex
Def
K

Thanks for help in advance.

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Post#12 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:09 pm

nmeurett wrote:10 team 1 ppr 2 wr 1 flex 6 point qb touchdowns

I know my keepers AJ Green (2nd) Todd Gurley (4th) David Johnson (13th) my question is who do I pick in the first round. I have 4th pick and after all the keepers are taken out best players available will be Leveon Bell, OBJ, Julio Jones, Saquon Barkley, Gronk and Mike Evans. I'm guessing Bell, OBJ and Jones are gone so probably picking between Barkley and Gronk. Who would you take?

Qb
Rb Gurley
Rb Johnson
Wr Green
Wr
Te
Flex
Def
K

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Assuming things play out as you anticipate I'd be taking Saquon in that spot.
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Post#13 » by M-C-G » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:34 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:
nmeurett wrote:10 team 1 ppr 2 wr 1 flex 6 point qb touchdowns

I know my keepers AJ Green (2nd) Todd Gurley (4th) David Johnson (13th) my question is who do I pick in the first round. I have 4th pick and after all the keepers are taken out best players available will be Leveon Bell, OBJ, Julio Jones, Saquon Barkley, Gronk and Mike Evans. I'm guessing Bell, OBJ and Jones are gone so probably picking between Barkley and Gronk. Who would you take?

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Rb Gurley
Rb Johnson
Wr Green
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Assuming things play out as you anticipate I'd be taking Saquon in that spot.


In a keeper league I am going Barkley just in case


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Post#14 » by bizarro » Tue Aug 14, 2018 1:46 am

So, here's a proposition:

I haven't played FF in over 10 years. Let me put it into perspective: the last time I participated in a FF league I was in college; Jerry Porter was a WR for the Raiders; and I lost out on the ability to win $2500.00 because David f'ng Akers missed an Extra Point! Tough times.

I am in a FF League at work this year. It's modest - a $20 buy-in. From what I hear, RB's are the new rage. You have to build from the backfield. What are opinions here? I am an NBA Fantasy nerd having won 2 out of 4 of the past seasons of a Keeper League with nightly lineups/match-ups. BUT, beyond the Packers I don't have a f'ng clue. Any help or recommendations or 'hey, dumba@@ read this' would be a great help. Thanks, gents.
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Post#15 » by M-C-G » Tue Aug 14, 2018 4:35 pm

bizarro wrote:So, here's a proposition:

I haven't played FF in over 10 years. Let me put it into perspective: the last time I participated in a FF league I was in college; Jerry Porter was a WR for the Raiders; and I lost out on the ability to win $2500.00 because David f'ng Akers missed an Extra Point! Tough times.

I am in a FF League at work this year. It's modest - a $20 buy-in. From what I hear, RB's are the new rage. You have to build from the backfield. What are opinions here? I am an NBA Fantasy nerd having won 2 out of 4 of the past seasons of a Keeper League with nightly lineups/match-ups. BUT, beyond the Packers I don't have a f'ng clue. Any help or recommendations or 'hey, dumba@@ read this' would be a great help. Thanks, gents.


Take this for what it is worth, I am usually a playoff team in my money leagues, so my point being, this strategy generally works well for me.

I find that if I can consistently lock in either my RB or WR early, I can take a quantity approach to the other position. I actually prefer to lock in my WR group right away, because RB tend to be overvalued which leads to better WR (aka the consistent guys at a generally inconsistent position) available with my first two picks.

What I love about the quantity approach at RB, is that they get hurt, a lot and their are a lot of talented back ups just waiting for their shot. Last year, depending when you drafted, Kamara, Kareem Hunt, Rex Burkhead, Dion Lewis, Alex Collins, etc were all drafted pretty late but all ended up as top 20 at the position. This year there are also a number of unsettled situations and young RB class entering the fray as well. So I think if you can hunt out the scenarios and target the right guys, you don't need to go RB early, just take the value at other positions and end up with maybe one RB2 (like a Lamar Miller or Jerrick McKinnon type) and then draft a bunch of the young guys who will be undervalued like Penney, Sony Michiel, Ronald Jones, Mixon and hope you get a young guy that blows up. And then target some guys that could be top 10-20 guys that are suspended or hurt to start the season like Mark Ingram or our own Aaron Jones. And lastly look for situations where if the starter got hurt, the back up should blow up like James Conner.

You are going to have a number of misses for certain, but you really only need one hit if you have plus players at QB, WR, TE. Also, everyone will tell you to wait on QB because the value isn't there most years to draft one early. I think there is a lot of merit to that because you can usually nab a guy that will be a fringe top 12 QB pretty late in the draft, but I also personally enjoy having a guy that can up 50 points like Rodger or Cam Newton. There are certain weeks where they can carry your team, which is hard to say for a lot of other positions, so if I am in round 4 or so and there is a stud QB, sometimes I will jump the gun on that guy.

Two other tidbits, always make sure you understand your scoring rules. If there are 3 point bonuses for going over 100 yards rushing or 300 yards passing, you want to factor that in to your drafting. Also, ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS go to a site like ESPN or Fantasyfootballdraftcalculator and print out an Average Draft Position rankings list the day before your draft. They have 100s of thousands of mock drafts daily that show where people are taking guys, that will give you a leg up on someone coming into the draft with a cheat sheet that was written before training camp.
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Post#16 » by WeekapaugGroove » Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:06 pm

bizarro wrote:So, here's a proposition:

I haven't played FF in over 10 years. Let me put it into perspective: the last time I participated in a FF league I was in college; Jerry Porter was a WR for the Raiders; and I lost out on the ability to win $2500.00 because David f'ng Akers missed an Extra Point! Tough times.

I am in a FF League at work this year. It's modest - a $20 buy-in. From what I hear, RB's are the new rage. You have to build from the backfield. What are opinions here? I am an NBA Fantasy nerd having won 2 out of 4 of the past seasons of a Keeper League with nightly lineups/match-ups. BUT, beyond the Packers I don't have a f'ng clue. Any help or recommendations or 'hey, dumba@@ read this' would be a great help. Thanks, gents.


Strategy can change with a 10 vs a 12 team league. If it's a 12 team then I lean towards getting at least one good RB early because it can get pretty thin quickly and you're less likely to have good options on the waiver wire. With a 10 team league I'm also more likely to grab one of the top 3 QB's or TE's because I like having a premium guy but if I don't land one of the top 3 then I just wait and get them late. There are a ton of QB's this year. In any league I use a strategy of basically streaming either TE or QB but I don't like doing it with both. Fill your bench with high upside WR's and RB's.

I always map out my first two rounds ranking the guys to those two spots and after that roll with more of a tier approach. I never go in saying I need to get x position in the first two rounds but the draft does get easier later if you go with 1 RB and 1 WR in the first two rounds.

And with a $20 league I would take guys you want to root for. Might as well have fun with it.
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Post#17 » by bizarro » Tue Aug 14, 2018 7:09 pm

Thanks, gents! This is very helpful.
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Post#18 » by Mags FTW » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:33 pm

Not a big FF guy, so please humor me.

Why are PPR leagues a thing? What’s appealing about a system that extremely overvalues someone like Jarvis Landry?
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Post#19 » by dbrodz7 » Tue Aug 14, 2018 8:38 pm

Mags FTW wrote:Not a big FF guy, so please humor me.

Why are PPR leagues a thing? What’s appealing about a system that extremely overvalues someone like Jarvis Landry?


It evens out the scoring across all positions. The elite RBs are as good or better than best receivers and the best RBs and WRs can compete with top QB scoring.

For example in the PPR league I run the top scorers regardless of position last year were: Todd Gurley (RB), Russell Wilson (QB), LeVeon Bell (RB), Antonio Brown (WR), Alvin Kamara (RB), DeAndre Hopkins (WR), Kareem Hunt (RB), Keenan Allen (WR), Tom Brady (QB).
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Post#20 » by BUCKnation » Tue Aug 14, 2018 9:17 pm

Also makes more players viable to have in bigger leagues

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