GT: Pack at Seattle - 7:20 - Fox

[rilamann]

It's scary to think how many Super Bowls Aaron Rodgers would have played in if the Packer's organization put winning above hurting people's feelings.

[Rob Diaz]

One of the major tenets of west coast offense is that you can take short passes in lieu of runs. If your QB can't or won't throw them, as we are seeing on the field, then the offense doesn't work. This game was 100% on Rodgers. Our offense sputtered because he can't help himself. He won't take checkdowns. When he does it is 4 seconds too late and he has already stared it down and led a player to it. His biggest plays pulled Adams back into coverage when he had 2-3 yards. The offense can't get 14 points and then just go to sleep for 3 quarters. McCarthy has to go, but Rodgers has been garbage and his stats are nothing more than a mirage.

I agree: A-Rod has been well short of a GOAT this season. It's been like an Elvis Grbac level season. Hits and misses. BUT, man oh man, you can not watch this game and see how dysfunctional the Big Mac Packers have become on offense. The whole system is warped - and, A-Rod has a significant say in this. He's given WAY too much liberty. This season is going perfectly as far as I'm concerned.

It is pretty obvious that Rodgers passed on open receivers in order to force balls downfield. He also passed on checkdowns to take sacks. McCarthy puts a lot of trust in Rodgers, and Rodgers has failed him pretty heartily this year. I, again, am not a McCarthy apologist, but Rodgers has been REALLY bad.

I agree, but this is purely due to Rodgers feeling like he has to do too much to carry this team. It's years of mistrust that has ballooned into what we are seeing now.

[ReasonablySober]

I'm still in awe of the punt.

[LikeABosh]

I'm still in awe of the punt.

Wasn't even paying that close attention to the clock and the timeouts left because I was annoyed with Rodgers missing that throw.

We had one timeout with 4 mins left and we punted it to the best running team in the league? Lol

[Balls2TheWalls]

I'm all for firing McCarthy. I think he is non-innovative. I also think that his offense is more than good enough if Rodgers, like Brady, was a better short yardage thrower, and was willing to take the short yardage for first downs instead of only looking for mid to deep. I think that McCarthy's message is dead. It isn't hitting home.

His offense relies on Rodgers making spectacular plays (e.g. bombs to Tonyan and Adams). When he doesn't this offense sucks. And with two rookie wideouts the timing is way off cutting the odds of the spectacular down by a large percentage.

This is where people are wrong. There are lots of routes out there. If you watch our all 22, and even just see the short crossing routes, Rodgers is just unwilling to throw the shorter ball. I feel like people are willing to act like we require Rodgers to do these things. All of the receivers are running routes. His offense is not innovative. But it is good enough to put up 30 a game. We are already close to that even with it being garbage. We take the 2nd and the 3rd quarter and we run garbage no first down football. I assure you that McCarthy isn't telling Rodgers not to take 5 yard passes. Rodgers is also AWFUL on short throws. He bounced one, he somehow missed EQ on a screen? He is TERRIBLE at it. He frequently passes up throwing to Aaron Jones to try to scramble.

McCarthy's offense is bad, but there is certainly some hand wringing acting like Rodgers deserves a pass or should somehow be fine just being petulant getting paid the most of any player in the history of the league. I can't get behind it. McCarthy sucks, but Rodgers doesn't get a pass for also sucking from me.

[Jollay]

He didn't trust his offensive line and I don't blame him for that.

I thought the line played fine tonight. Almost every one of those second half sacks were deep drop where Rodgers skipped his few short options. I didn't see any plays where our line was just whipped. I literally can't remember one highlight where any one of them was abused.

No penalties also in the loudest place in the NFL. I take it back, our OL probably played great.

[Buck Dweller]

feels like me actually might get a mccarthy firing this week.

[HaroldinGMinor]

I'm all for firing McCarthy. I think he is non-innovative. I also think that his offense is more than good enough if Rodgers, like Brady, was a better short yardage thrower, and was willing to take the short yardage for first downs instead of only looking for mid to deep. I think that McCarthy's message is dead. It isn't hitting home.

His offense relies on Rodgers making spectacular plays (e.g. bombs to Tonyan and Adams). When he doesn't this offense sucks. And with two rookie wideouts the timing is way off cutting the odds of the spectacular down by a large percentage.

This is where people are wrong. There are lots of routes out there. If you watch our all 22, and even just see the short crossing routes, Rodgers is just unwilling to throw the shorter ball. I feel like people are willing to act like we require Rodgers to do these things. All of the receivers are running routes. His offense is not innovative. But it is good enough to put up 30 a game. We are already close to that even with it being garbage. We take the 2nd and the 3rd quarter and we run garbage no first down football. I assure you that McCarthy isn't telling Rodgers not to take 5 yard passes. Rodgers is also AWFUL on short throws. He bounced one, he somehow missed EQ on a screen? He is TERRIBLE at it. He frequently passes up throwing to Aaron Jones to try to scramble.

McCarthy's offense is bad, but there is certainly some hand wringing acting like Rodgers deserves a pass or should somehow be fine just being petulant getting paid the most of any player in the history of the league. I can't get behind it. McCarthy sucks, but Rodgers doesn't get a pass for also sucking from me.

McCarthy cannot play call. He's horrible. Aaron Jones barely touched the ball in the 2nd half. That wasn't all Rodgers audibles from runs to pass.

[Balls2TheWalls]

McCarthy cannot play call. He's horrible. Aaron Jones barely touched the ball in the 2nd half. That wasn't all Rodgers audibles from runs to pass.

Yet Rodgers, on probably 4-5 occasions, passed on wide open checkdowns to Jones in order to do nothing.

[SupremeHustle]

I'm all for firing McCarthy. I think he is non-innovative. I also think that his offense is more than good enough if Rodgers, like Brady, was a better short yardage thrower, and was willing to take the short yardage for first downs instead of only looking for mid to deep. I think that McCarthy's message is dead. It isn't hitting home.

Nah. Watching a McCarthy offense vs watching what's going on in NO, KC, and LA is like watching different sports.

This sounds so familiar but I can't put my finger on who we've said this about before.

[MickeyDavis]

I don't see any way MM is fired during the season.

[Balls2TheWalls]

Again, I'm not trying to argue for McCarthy being some great coach, but I think that we can get into a middle ground where people realize that McCarthy sucks, but Rodgers has also sucked. Not just in this game.

[Balls2TheWalls]

I don't see any way MM is fired during the season.

I don't even think we have the structure to do it. Murphy is the world's foremost coward.

[ReasonablySober]

I'm all for firing McCarthy. I think he is non-innovative. I also think that his offense is more than good enough if Rodgers, like Brady, was a better short yardage thrower, and was willing to take the short yardage for first downs instead of only looking for mid to deep. I think that McCarthy's message is dead. It isn't hitting home.

Nah. Watching a McCarthy offense vs watching what's going on in NO, KC, and LA is like watching different sports.

This sounds so familiar but I can't put my finger on who we've said this about before.

It's like that, but for about four more seasons of Kidd.

[Wooderson]

I'm still in awe of the punt.

Wasn't even paying that close attention to the clock and the timeouts left because I was annoyed with Rodgers missing that throw.

We had one timeout with 4 mins left and we punted it to the best running team in the league? Lol

Average 5 ypc too. Great work MM!

[rilamann]

What would the Packers record be right now if they had a decent head coach? I'd say maybe 7-2.

Maybe 8-2 after this game.

[Buck Dweller]

I don't see any way MM is fired during the season.

We said the same thing about Kidd. **** is different when you have millions of fans outraged on twitter.

[trwi7]

Vegas casinos are going to pay Jon Gruden to go away if Davis agrees to hire MM with this quote.

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[MickeyDavis]

“There’s enough football left. … Everything’s in front of us. We’ve just got to finish games, especially on the road.” ~ Mike McCarthy

[ReasonablySober]

Again, I'm not trying to argue for McCarthy being some great coach, but I think that we can get into a middle ground where people realize that McCarthy sucks, but Rodgers has also sucked. Not just in this game.

Rodgers didn't suck. He didn't come close to sucking. He just wasn't otherworldly. He threw bad balls, and he threw some balls tonight almost no one in the league does.