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Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement

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Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#1 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:34 pm

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"Two years ago, Josh McDaniels was in the (San Francisco 49ers') coaching search until the very end," Breer said. "And one of the things the Niners were looking at was pairing different people together. When Josh McDaniels was in the running for that Niners job ... the guy who at the time had emerged as the front-runner for the general manager job ... and who had blown the Niners away was a Packers personnel man named Brian Gutekunst, who now is the (Packers') general manager. So, they've done their homework on each other."


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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#2 » by Flames24Rulz » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:49 pm

As long as he's kept away from personnel moves, I think it could work.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#3 » by MissKhriddleton » Fri Nov 16, 2018 3:59 pm

I get that the Pats offense is a machine far greater than just the mind of Josh McDaniels, but how could you not like this? Please god, yes.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#4 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:01 pm

Sure I'd be down with the hire. My only concern is if BB stays around for a few years and all of the sudden it nears the end of McDaniels deal that he'll bolt for that job. Good coach but not exactly a trustworthy guy.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#5 » by BJ Sandered » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:04 pm

Interesting. Not sure if he's my first choice, but he has a good offensive mind.

Plus if he's good this time around as head coach it'd be cool to steal him away from the Patriots as Emperor Belichick's heir apparent. :P
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#6 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:16 pm

I'd do it definitely. Clean sweep on the offensive side. Let Pettine stay if he wishes
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#7 » by Ron Swanson » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:33 pm

No thanks. Go after someone who isn't just the hot "name" candidate and who doesn't flake out on verbal commitments.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#8 » by HaroldinGMinor » Fri Nov 16, 2018 4:43 pm

Denver fans HATE McDaniels with a passion. I assume a lot of that has to do with his personnel moves though. Also, has any Belichick disciple ever had success?
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#9 » by WeekapaugGroove » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:20 pm

HaroldinGMinor wrote:Denver fans HATE McDaniels with a passion. I assume a lot of that has to do with his personnel moves though. Also, has any Belichick disciple ever had success?


I think a lot of the Denver thing was he made some enemies with the fans real quick by getting rid of Cutler... which looking back on was the right move.

I kind of like hiring guys on their second head coaching stint; I think it humbles them a little and if they are good they learn from the experience.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#10 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:32 pm

I do not like him. But I'm simultaneously so **** ready to be done with MM I'd probably take Grandma Gretchen off the street.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#11 » by UWM_Brew_Buck » Fri Nov 16, 2018 5:43 pm

Not a fan of him but he is interesting. GB should be a highly sought after destination. Hopefully it works out for the Packers like it did for the Bucks last year.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#12 » by humanrefutation » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:03 pm

I'd take him. But he's on a list with Lincoln Riley, John DeFilippo, and Matt LaFleur as guys I'd consider.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#13 » by humanrefutation » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:08 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:Sure I'd be down with the hire. My only concern is if BB stays around for a few years and all of the sudden it nears the end of McDaniels deal that he'll bolt for that job. Good coach but not exactly a trustworthy guy.


He's not bolting for the NE job unless Brady is still there. And even if he is, I don't know if he'd take Brady over Rodgers.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#14 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:15 pm

I think Riley ends up with Dallas
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#15 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:19 pm

Packers would have their choice of candidates. I think if the Packers wanted Riley they could have him.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#16 » by Turk Nowitzki » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:19 pm

I'd be ok with McDaniels but you'd think there would be quality candidates lining up around the block for the organization to choose from if/when the coaching job opens up. You get to walk into a situation with Aaron Rodgers and you don't have to deal with any crazy Jerry Jones style owner looking over your shoulder. That's basically the dream.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#17 » by humanrefutation » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:39 pm

Truth of the matter is, whoever we hire has to convince Aaron to work within his system. We could hire the best offensive mind in the sport and if Aaron is hell bent on doing things his way it won't work.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#18 » by crkone » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:42 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Truth of the matter is, whoever we hire has to convince Aaron to work within his system. We could hire the best offensive mind in the sport and if Aaron is hell bent on doing things his way it won't work.


I think those issues evaporate with a new coach and a new system in place.

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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#19 » by humanrefutation » Fri Nov 16, 2018 6:49 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:Truth of the matter is, whoever we hire has to convince Aaron to work within his system. We could hire the best offensive mind in the sport and if Aaron is hell bent on doing things his way it won't work.


I think those issues evaporate with a new coach and a new system in place.


I don't know about that - I think those issues will get magnified in the short term. Aaron is going to be 35-going-on-36 next year with all-but-one year in his entire career being played in one system. He's basically spent most of his career - since his MVP season in 2011 - running the scheme his way; and he seems to enjoy freelancing however and whenever he can.

It's hard to teach and old dog new tricks; it's even harder to teach an MVP who has played in one system for pretty much his entire career to tone it down and run the plays being given to him. That will require him developing trust in his HC and the system being presented to him. That will require trust in his teammates to run the plays as written.
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Re: Report: Packers could eye Josh McDaniels as Mike McCarthy replacement 

Post#20 » by crkone » Fri Nov 16, 2018 7:01 pm

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humanrefutation wrote:Truth of the matter is, whoever we hire has to convince Aaron to work within his system. We could hire the best offensive mind in the sport and if Aaron is hell bent on doing things his way it won't work.


I think those issues evaporate with a new coach and a new system in place.


I don't know about that - I think those issues will get magnified in the short term. Aaron is going to be 35-going-on-36 next year with all-but-one year in his entire career being played in one system. He's basically spent most of his career - since his MVP season in 2011 - running the scheme his way; and he seems to enjoy freelancing however and whenever he can.

It's hard to teach and old dog new tricks; it's even harder to teach an MVP who has played in one system for pretty much his entire career to tone it down and run the plays being given to him. That will require him developing trust in his HC and the system being presented to him. That will require trust in his teammates to run the plays as written.


There are examples of vet QBs going into new systems/situations like Favre. Just show him the playbook and tell him the philosophy of the offense and he'll be fine with it. Rodgers sees what other teams are doing and has routinely criticized the playcalling. This will reinvigorate him.

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