ATL Week 12 - Garrett's Suspension Upheld; Pouncey's Reduced to 2 Games

[MickeyDavis]

Last week of byes.

All national TV games feature teams with winning records.

[HKPackFan]

I think the ravens might win the superbowl. I'm getting caught up in the lamar fever.

Ravens rams should be fun.

[Kerb Hohl]

I will take a large L on the Lamar Jackson analysis. I thought he was so wildly inaccurate that his rushing ability would not be enough to overcome that. Especially since it felt like he could get lit up at any moment with how much he ran. He has become at worst a decent passer (maybe better) and is a transcendent runner/scrambler. Throws a great deep ball and is OK on the other stuff but makes it even better with his ability to extend plays.

[BUCKnation]

The coaching job by the Ravens has been exceptional as well. Lamar is awesome, just hope he can adapt when defenses eventually start to figure him out. Heavy running offenses through the QB generally dont last long.

[RRyder823]

The coaching job by the Ravens has been exceptional as well. Lamar is awesome, just hope he can adapt when defenses eventually start to figure him out. Heavy running offenses through the QB generally dont last long.

Not "generally". We've seen this episode before. Dynamic running QB bursts on the scene combining dashes on the ground with some good throws but then either gets hurt from taking to many hits or defences learn his tendencies if he never learns to carve teams up from the pocket and go through his progressions before running.

Pulling for him to keep progressing but guys have a habit of leaning too heavily on their athletic ability early in their careers and that either lends itself to injury or not developing the pocket skills. If he can find that blend it's pretty deadly. It's just not that common for a guy to blend those traits together

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[dbrodz7]

I'm surprised it took Garrett so long to make up that Rudolph used a racial slur. I would have to imagine if he actually did he would've said that's what happened immediately and not waited days and days.

[humanrefutation]

I'm surprised it took Garrett so long to make up that Rudolph used a racial slur. I would have to imagine if he actually did he would've said that's what happened immediately and not waited days and days.

You don't know whether he made it up or not. Not revealing something immediately does not mean that it didn't happen.

But nevertheless, his suspension was upheld anyway.

[dbrodz7]

I'm surprised it took Garrett so long to make up that Rudolph used a racial slur. I would have to imagine if he actually did he would've said that's what happened immediately and not waited days and days.

You don't know whether he made it up or not. Not revealing something immediately does not mean that it didn't happen.

But nevertheless, his suspension was upheld anyway.

I also think if a white QB is using racial slurs on the field almost the entire locker room would hate him and you wouldn't have black lineman literally kicking and fighting for him. If it's corroborated that he did use a slur that's the end of his clipboard holding career.

[humanrefutation]

I'm surprised it took Garrett so long to make up that Rudolph used a racial slur. I would have to imagine if he actually did he would've said that's what happened immediately and not waited days and days.

You don't know whether he made it up or not. Not revealing something immediately does not mean that it didn't happen.

But nevertheless, his suspension was upheld anyway.

I also think if a white QB is using racial slurs on the field almost the entire locker room would hate him and you wouldn't have black lineman literally kicking and fighting for him. If it's corroborated that he did use a slur that's the end of his clipboard holding career.

Not necessarily. We already see plenty of evidence in other professions that people in the "foxhole," so-to-speak, will still protect their racist teammates/coworkers out of a sense of self-preservation over siding with "the enemy." That's especially true when it comes to linemen protecting their QBs. So while you'd think they'd trash Rudolph if they heard him say something racially offensive, they also know that the team is invested in him, they want to win the game, and they'd want to protect their own careers.

And second, we already have lots of evidence that using a racial slur would not be the end of a career. Richie Incognito and Riley Cooper are two that come immediately to mind, and I'm sure there have been many many other examples that haven't been made public, too.

[WRau1]

Garrett somehow heard Rudolph say something that noone else heard while Myles never said anything about it to any of his teammates. Nah, doesn't add up.

[ReasonablySober]

I have no idea whether or not a slur was used. Doug Farrar wrote an article tonight that explained how the claim didn't hold up, based on on-field accounts, cameras, and mic'd refs. That doesn't mean it didn't, and again, I don't know.

THAT SAID, if this didn't happen and it was a hail marry attempt to get Garrett's suspension reduced, holy crap what a fu*ked-up thing to do. It doesn't matter what happens from here on out. Rudolph is gonna have this over his head for the rest of his life.

[RRyder823]

I have no idea whether or not a slur was used. Doug Farrar wrote an article tonight that explained how the claim didn't hold up, based on on-field accounts, cameras, and mic'd refs. That doesn't mean it didn't, and again, I don't know.

THAT SAID, if this didn't happen and it was a hail marry attempt to get Garrett's suspension reduced, holy crap what a fu*ked-up thing to do. It doesn't matter what happens from here on out. Rudolph is gonna have this over his head for the rest of his life.

Welcome to 2019 where when all else fails you accuse the other party of doing something wrong to try and act like the victim.

Whether anything was said is irrelevant to me. You dont try and knock someone's head off with their own helmet. Simple as that. Sure it could be deemed more understandable if a racial slur was used but the simple point is that if you try and hit someone in the head with a helmet it's not ok no matter what



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[MikeIsGood]

Different topic. Going to be interested to see what this NFL 100 team ends up being. I have a feeling it will be a circle jerk for the days-gone-by and feature virtually no modern era players.

LaDanian Tomlinson not on the RB list is **** hilarious.

[humanrefutation]

Different topic. Going to be interested to see what this NFL 100 team ends up being. I have a feeling it will be a circle jerk for the days-gone-by and feature virtually no modern era players.

LaDanian Tomlinson not on the RB list is **** hilarious.

Which Packers could make it?

Lambeau
Hutson
Hornung/Taylor (though they may be considered RBs?)
Starr
Nitschke
Favre
Reggie
Woodson
Rodgers

[RRyder823]

Different topic. Going to be interested to see what this NFL 100 team ends up being. I have a feeling it will be a circle jerk for the days-gone-by and feature virtually no modern era players.

LaDanian Tomlinson not on the RB list is **** hilarious.

Which Packers could make it?

Lambeau
Hutson
Hornung/Taylor (though they may be considered RBs?)
Starr
Nitschke
Favre
Reggie
Woodson
Rodgers

Reggie, Hornung, Starr and Hutson are the only locks imo. So many players to choose from. Theres going to be a ton of snubs and active (Rodgers) or recently active (Woodson/Favre) are going to fighting an uphill battle to make the lists

Lambeau probably makes it off his name recognition alone but the sheer number of LBs probably bumps a guy like Nitschke off

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[TJ_Ford_11]

Different topic. Going to be interested to see what this NFL 100 team ends up being. I have a feeling it will be a circle jerk for the days-gone-by and feature virtually no modern era players.

LaDanian Tomlinson not on the RB list is **** hilarious.

Which Packers could make it?

Lambeau
Hutson
Hornung/Taylor (though they may be considered RBs?)
Starr
Nitschke
Favre
Reggie
Woodson
Rodgers

Reggie, Hornung, Starr and Hutson are the only locks imo. So many players to choose from. Theres going to be a ton of snubs and active (Rodgers) or recently active (Woodson/Favre) are going to fighting an uphill battle to make the lists

Lambeau probably makes it off his name recognition alone but the sheer number of LBs probably bumps a guy like Nitschke off

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There is no way Favre wouldn't be a lock for the top 100. At one time, there was a debate if he was one of the top 3 quarterbacks of all time. He held the most important passing records when he retired.

[RRyder823]

Which Packers could make it?

Lambeau
Hutson
Hornung/Taylor (though they may be considered RBs?)
Starr
Nitschke
Favre
Reggie
Woodson
Rodgers

Reggie, Hornung, Starr and Hutson are the only locks imo. So many players to choose from. Theres going to be a ton of snubs and active (Rodgers) or recently active (Woodson/Favre) are going to fighting an uphill battle to make the lists

Lambeau probably makes it off his name recognition alone but the sheer number of LBs probably bumps a guy like Nitschke off

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There is no way Favre wouldn't be a lock for the top 100. At one time, there was a debate if he was one of the top 3 quarterbacks of all time. He held the most important passing records when he retired.

I think he ends up on it but if a player is not an top 5 guy all time at their position or a player with a legendary status I wouldn't call them a lock to make the list.

(X's 5 by the number of positions on the field and even then top 5 all time for their position guys are going to be left off)

Theres just tons of players to choose from here.

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[MickeyDavis]

Trubisky end zone pick Lmao

[MickeyDavis]

Wilson not helping his MVP chances

[Jollay]

Devin Bush just chased down Tyler Boyd....after he got the ball on a go....and forced a fumble.

God, I've been imagining us with an athletic ILB forever...we get somebody like him in the middle of our D and its top ten for years.