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Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 8:16 pm
by Daver
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M-C-G wrote:Daver that is because they tend to assign the sacks after a certain amount of time to the QB. If the line protects for 2.5 seconds or whatever it is, I am pretty sure they are not blamed for that sack.

Given Rodgers doesn’t like to get rid of the ball quickly, it leads to most of his sacks. Pretty rarely does someone blow up our line and get a quick sack.


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Mickey davis just wrote that rodgers holds the ball a average of 2.88 seconds n mahomes 2.83 seconds that seems pretty quick if not mahomes i dont think got close to being sacked as much as rodgers did and he was .05 seconds faster.Now does mahomes getting sacked only 30 plus times because of said .05 seconds quicker or because his oline is better i just dont see how GBs oline can be ranked 4th

30 plus times is two plays per game over the course of the season, where it isn’t unusual to drop back 40 something times a game.

Not sure how you can watch Rodgers and not notice the number of times he extends plays, it has to be among the tops in the league.


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Absolutely i see that every game thats part of what i said where QBs like brees n brady can sit back there not move and hardly ever get touched ....rodgers scrambling what seems like every other play i feel makes the oline look better than it really is cause i guess if rodgers couldnt move around how many times would he get hit

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 9:41 pm
by M-C-G
Daver wrote:rodgers scrambling what seems like every other play i feel makes the oline look better than it really is cause i guess if rodgers couldnt move around how many times would he get hit


Yeah, I kind of disagree, but see the point. I'd counter with he wouldn't have to scramble if he just stopped trying to extend plays and run the actual offense.

I think that 4th rank OL reflects that if Rodgers would not try to extend plays and get the ball out, you'd see the 4th best OL. Additionally they probably get more than their fair share of penalties trying to save Rodgers on those extended plays.

Don't get me wrong, a few years ago it was worth it, he was that good. But his big play ability is dwindling, his downfield accuracy is not the same since the collar bone, and Rodgers has always preferred for going 30 yards on 3rd and 3, instead of picking up the first down. But now, he isn't making those 30 yard plays, so it is time to change IMO.

I think he could do really well with a viable play action threat, but it will require him to buy in, which has always been the catch with him. Every time we tried to change the offense, he gets pissy and before you know it, we are back to McCarthy days where he gets what he wants.

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Sat May 23, 2020 11:21 pm
by Daver
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Daver wrote:rodgers scrambling what seems like every other play i feel makes the oline look better than it really is cause i guess if rodgers couldnt move around how many times would he get hit


Yeah, I kind of disagree, but see the point. I'd counter with he wouldn't have to scramble if he just stopped trying to extend plays and run the actual offense.

I think that 4th rank OL reflects that if Rodgers would not try to extend plays and get the ball out, you'd see the 4th best OL. Additionally they probably get more than their fair share of penalties trying to save Rodgers on those extended plays.

Don't get me wrong, a few years ago it was worth it, he was that good. But his big play ability is dwindling, his downfield accuracy is not the same since the collar bone, and Rodgers has always preferred for going 30 yards on 3rd and 3, instead of picking up the first down. But now, he isn't making those 30 yard plays, so it is time to change IMO.

I think he could do really well with a viable play action threat, but it will require him to buy in, which has always been the catch with him. Every time we tried to change the offense, he gets pissy and before you know it, we are back to McCarthy days where he gets what he wants.



You are right and let me add this its amazing how great the packer O looks when rodgers is throwing the ball quickly and hitting the quick slants and dinking n dunking then as good as the team looks doing that it all stops n just like that the O absolutely turns to dust

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 3:09 am
by Mags FTW
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Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 4:25 pm
by Profound23

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2020 6:19 pm
by ReasonablySober
One of them was Zeke. Wasn't he seen a party during quarantine?

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:10 am
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Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 1:49 am
by Profound23
I knew NE would sign Winston or Cam. Shocked the rest of the NFL let Cam sit out there this long for NE.

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:43 am
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Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:09 am
by WeekapaugGroove
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Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 4:02 am
by Treebeard
Enh..... Cowherd, Bayless, Steven A all use the schtick of saying provocative stuff to generate fan reaction. I think half the time, they don't care what opinion they take, just so long as it gets them more reaction points. (Well, Bayless is also an idiot.)

In this case, if Newton's physically able to perform, who would be surprised if he's the stsrter? Real bold prediction there, Colin.....

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:15 pm
by humanrefutation
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I think he's being a bit tongue-in-cheek.

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:37 pm
by tski1972
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I think he's being a bit tongue-in-cheek.


I think he’s just being Colin Cowherd.

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 3:57 pm
by trwi7
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I think he's being a bit tongue-in-cheek.


It's hard to tell with Cowherd. I could see both of these things happening. He thinks Newton is injured and damaged goods and that Stidham has the edge knowing the playbook but the time off helped Newton and he's going to come in and take the job. Or he knows Newton is much better than Stidham and wants to get a rise out of people so he fires off that tweet knowing that everyone knows Newton is better than Stidham and he just wants to sit back with a glass of scotch and laugh at the replies.

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - Bears Decline Trubisky's 5th Year Option

Posted: Wed Jul 1, 2020 2:21 pm
by humanrefutation
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I think he's being a bit tongue-in-cheek.


It's hard to tell with Cowherd. I could see both of these things happening. He thinks Newton is injured and damaged goods and that Stidham has the edge knowing the playbook but the time off helped Newton and he's going to come in and take the job. Or he knows Newton is much better than Stidham and wants to get a rise out of people so he fires off that tweet knowing that everyone knows Newton is better than Stidham and he just wants to sit back with a glass of scotch and laugh at the replies.


I mean, there's no doubt that Cowherd is a turd, but I can't imagine that he actually thinks that's a strong take.

Re: ATL 2020 Off Season - NFLPA Votes for No Preseason Football

Posted: Fri Jul 3, 2020 10:50 pm
by humanrefutation
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