2023 Draft Recap and 3 Years Too Early Poll

Profound23 · Post #21 » by **Profound23** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:44 am

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That's still pretty insane to not draft a single OL. Especially when you have 13 picks.

Agreed....you have to always draft dline and oline imo....I know we have a couple of prospects on the practice squad who I LOVE.....but you always want to keep building those spots.

MVP2110 · Post #22 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:47 am

Profound23 wrote:
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That's still pretty insane to not draft a single OL. Especially when you have 13 picks.

Agreed....you have to always draft dline and oline imo....I know we have a couple of prospects on the practice squad who I LOVE.....but you always want to keep building those spots.

Gutey expanded on this and said they were open to taking one early but once they got to a certain point in the draft they didn't think anyone else would make the team so they didn't see it worthwhile to draft one

buckboy · Post #23 » by **buckboy** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:40 am

Not a Packer fan:

Solid A

Edit: the Clifford pick was abominable though.

MVP2110 · Post #24 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:53 am

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Matches Malone · Post #25 » by **Matches Malone** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:37 am

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HKPackFan · Post #26 » by **HKPackFan** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:45 am

I go by the Ron wolf definition of a great draft with 4 diamonds. 4 solid starters.

I think there are 4 solid starters in this class. Therfore an A.

RiotPunch · Post #27 » by **RiotPunch** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:33 am

B+/A-

Quite satisfied.

jakecronus8 · Post #28 » by **jakecronus8** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:14 pm

Addressed multiple needs with high upside guys. Nothing to complain about. Only picks that gave me pause were Reed and Clifford. Coming around big time on Reed given his skillset being a perfect mix with Watson and Doubs. Kinda feel like they got bullied into the Clifford pick given the record number of QBs off the board.

Turk Nowitzki · Post #29 » by **Turk Nowitzki** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:33 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:Addressed multiple needs with high upside guys. Nothing to complain about. Only picks that gave me pause were Reed and Clifford. Coming around big time on Reed given his skillset being a perfect mix with Watson and Doubs. Kinda feel like they got bullied into the Clifford pick given the record number of QBs off the board.

Yeah after we picked Wooden at #116, five QBs came off the board before we picked again at #149. including Clayton Tune and Dorian Thompson going back to back like 10 picks before we were up.

jakecronus8 · Post #30 » by **jakecronus8** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:54 pm

I guess the kicker is kinda surprising because he’s like, not good.

Treebeard · Post #31 » by **Treebeard** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:59 pm

One of the things that stands out to me after the draft ended, its even more apparent that this is a reset season. Key vets are gone, or unsigned and likely to remain unsigned. The draft skewed towards perceived positions of need in the early rounds with the acknowledgement that while those guys will play significant minutes by default, none of them are expected to be instant impact. The draft functionally did nothing to restock the pool for two areas of need: Safety and OLine, and the limited CAP space won't help finding productive vets. (I know there's a number of OLine vets in the wings, but after Bahk, Jenkins, Nijman, Myers, Tom, and Runyan; the rest are barely NFL camp fodder IMO.)

You can't fix everything in one shot.

MVP2110 · Post #32 » by **MVP2110** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:44 pm

Treebeard wrote:One of the things that stands out to me after the draft ended, its even more apparent that this is a reset season. Key vets are gone, or unsigned and likely to remain unsigned. The draft skewed towards perceived positions of need in the early rounds with the acknowledgement that while those guys will play significant minutes by default, none of them are expected to be instant impact. The draft functionally did nothing to restock the pool for two areas of need: Safety and OLine, and the limited CAP space won't help finding productive vets. (I know there's a number of OLine vets in the wings, but after Bahk, Jenkins, Nijman, Myers, Tom, and Runyan; the rest are barely NFL camp fodder IMO.)

You can't fix everything in one shot.

Yep,I think it's clear we are taking a step back this year. I don't really have a desire to bring Amos back, id rather give some young guys a chance at PT and see if any can stick there. I don't think we'll bottom out but around 7 wins(give or take a couple) seems like a reasonable expectation. The offense will be real interesting with so many young guys and very few vets

Post #33 » by **paulpressey25** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:26 pm

Don't understand the Kicker and QB picks. Both seem to have massive red flags.

There has to be some "we see something others don't" going on here.

To me this is a key as to whether Gutey is a long-term success or not. Does he mine great value out of something that isn't obvious to the rest of the league.

Post #34 » by **ReasonablySober** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:32 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:Don't understand the Kicker and QB picks. Both seem to have massive red flags.

There has to be some "we see something others don't" going on here.

To me this is a key as to whether Gutey is a long-term success or not. Does he mine great value out of something that isn't obvious to the rest of the league.

Kicker has a history with our ST coach. QB is one of the best athletes at his position. Easy to understand the picks with that context.

msiris · Post #35 » by **msiris** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 5:42 pm

Ask me in 3 years. Its a crap shoot.

stillgotgame · Post #36 » by **stillgotgame** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 6:46 pm

B

I like the draft a lot. The only hang up I have is I thought a good GM always drafted the BPA. Gute clearly drafted for NEED.

M-C-G · Post #37 » by **M-C-G** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:28 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:Don't understand the Kicker and QB picks. Both seem to have massive red flags.

There has to be some "we see something others don't" going on here.

To me this is a key as to whether Gutey is a long-term success or not. Does he mine great value out of something that isn't obvious to the rest of the league.

Kicker has a history with our ST coach. QB is one of the best athletes at his position. Easy to understand the picks with that context.

Yep, I'm just believing that is the guy he wanted to bring in at kicker and so Gute took him. It's the easiest way for me to wrap my ahead around the pick.

I didn't quite realize that the QB was some kind of exceptional athlete. Is he of the caliber they may try to create a lite version of Taysom Hill? I don't know.

M-C-G · Post #38 » by **M-C-G** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:31 pm

Passing on JSN was softened by drafting Reed. Not identical players, but both guys probably play the same slot role for this team. I'll give it an A if for no other reasons we added a lot of really intriguing pieces to this offense that we should be able to use to help Love be successful.

Iheartfootball · Post #39 » by **Iheartfootball** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:32 pm

stillgotgame wrote:B

I like the draft a lot. The only hang up I have is I thought a good GM always drafted the BPA. Gute clearly drafted for NEED.

I don’t think it’s quite so black and white. It’s the fine art of combining both.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #40 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Sun Apr 30, 2023 8:43 pm

I don't know the prospects so won't comment on quality but they certainly hit the majority of their needs.

Biggest complaints I see is a 5th rd QB and 6th round kicker and I just can't get worked up about that.

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