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TheProdigy · Post #41 » by **TheProdigy** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 1:55 am

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How many decades has it been since we had a shorter injury report than the opponent?

stillgotgame · Post #42 » by **stillgotgame** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:07 am

https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/why-does-matt-lafleur-continue-to-stick-with-joe-barry/

I just don't get it, why is he still here?

Ayt · Post #43 » by **Ayt** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 3:15 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Interesting to see who practices tomorrow. Bahk won't for sure but I'd love to see Jones and Watson at least be limited participants.

Jones is key. Watson is cake, but it would still be great to see him out there.

Post #44 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:59 am

stillgotgame wrote:https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/why-does-matt-lafleur-continue-to-stick-with-joe-barry/

I just don't get it, why is he still here?

Do we know if MLF gets the final call on his DC, or is that a Gute/Murphy call?

Treebeard · Post #45 » by **Treebeard** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 2:06 pm

humanrefutation wrote:
stillgotgame wrote:https://zonecoverage.com/2023/packers/why-does-matt-lafleur-continue-to-stick-with-joe-barry/

I just don't get it, why is he still here?

Do we know if MLF gets the final call on his DC, or is that a Gute/Murphy call?

Who makes the first push betwen Murph, Gute and MLF? It's not all on Barry, but the body of work certainly shows he's not getting the job done. MLF may have personal friendship going back a few years, but Barry has amply proven to be a boat anchor on MLF's own career, so..... Murph doesn't seem to want to rock the boat while he's taking his two year valedictory laps. Gute pushes the hardest for Barry to go?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #46 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:43 pm

I dislike Barry as much as the next guy but I also think we flat out overrate the players on the D. Their best and highest paid have a bad habit of coming up small at the worst times.

Oh and I'm not ruling out some kind of curse since it's now like 20 years of no matter the players or coach the D always kind of looks the same and untrustworthy.

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Post #47 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:18 pm

Sounds like Watson couldn't practice, still too injured.

Post #48 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 5:32 pm

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Ron Swanson · Post #49 » by **Ron Swanson** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 6:33 pm

I'll be convinced the defense is equally a personnel issue when we stop seeing the same old schematic issues crop up every time. Case in point, this Saints offense is pretty much the exact kind of offense that this defense should, on paper, absolutely dominate.

Non-mobile pocket QB (Carr), mediocre offensive line, a JAG Tight End room, and both their top-2 RB's on the pre-season depth chart (Kamara & Williams) will be out. If the defense can't absolutely smother this collection of mediocre skill talent, then Barry should be given his walking papers first thing Monday. You can't just keep accepting these kind of deflating defensive performances and chalking it up to "guys need to play better".

Post #50 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:10 pm

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Post #51 » by **MickeyDavis** » Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:32 pm

The fact we have a division game up next on short rest will factor in for Watson, Jones, Bahk.

Post #52 » by **humanrefutation** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:25 am

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Post #53 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 1:39 am

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Alumni day is always great, I've been to a few. Now that I have season tix I get the second home game so I haven't been to one for awhile.

Treebeard · Post #54 » by **Treebeard** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 2:12 am

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Cool! Some pretty good players in their day, including several HOF'ers.

stillgotgame · Post #55 » by **stillgotgame** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:19 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:I dislike Barry as much as the next guy but I also think we flat out overrate the players on the D. Their best and highest paid have a bad habit of coming up small at the worst times.

Oh and I'm not ruling out some kind of curse since it's now like 20 years of no matter the players or coach the D always kind of looks the same and untrustworthy.

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I think there's a lot of talent on D. Young athletic guys in their prime. We should be aggressive, getting upfield and pressuring opposing teams to throw the ball and force them into mistakes. Instead we lay back and gap control, challenging them to methodically drive down the field.
This might be a good choice for an old, experienced and savvy defense, but that's not what we have.

Post #56 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:03 pm

Probably both will be listed as questionable when the report comes out later.

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MVP2110 · Post #57 » by **MVP2110** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 5:15 pm

If we didn't have a game vs the Lions on Thursday I'd assume both would play but given the fact that we do play Thursday against a team we could be fighting for to win the division I'd think there's a much better chance one or both sit

Matches Malone · Post #58 » by **Matches Malone** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:43 pm

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Post #59 » by **MickeyDavis** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:44 pm

Having a Thursday game next week really mucks this up

Post #60 » by **ReasonablySober** » Fri Sep 22, 2023 6:46 pm

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