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Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:03 pm
by ReasonablySober
In one of the deepest drafts for OT in recent years he's gonna waste his top ten pick on one.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:15 pm
by Mags FTW
I'm upset they won, but I'm glad it was almost entirely 1st and 2nd year guys getting the yards and TDs on offense instead of dudes like Jones who wont be here next year.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:31 pm
by PintSizedBox10
BUCKnation wrote:Would have been perfect for the chargers to go down and win that but Herbert never does anything in those situation. Whatever, harrison jr would be so perfect
He threw a perfect pass that should have gone for 6 but the receiver dropped it
???
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:42 pm
by stillgotgame
PintSizedBox10 wrote:BUCKnation wrote:Would have been perfect for the chargers to go down and win that but Herbert never does anything in those situation. Whatever, harrison jr would be so perfect
He threw a perfect pass that should have gone for 6 but the receiver dropped it
???
Yep, this board hates quarterbacks. Herbert is awesome, top 3 in the league for sure.
Chargers choke game after game under Staley but it isn't because of Herbert.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:44 pm
by MickeyDavis
Not an ACL for Jones
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:58 am
by MikeIsGood
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:38 am
by Matches Malone
@JuMosq
Dontayvion Wicks led the Packers with 91 receiving yards, despite playing just 24 of the offense's 72 snaps versus the Chargers. It's beyond time to see his snap counts increase.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:29 am
by M-C-G
Matches Malone wrote:@JuMosq
Dontayvion Wicks led the Packers with 91 receiving yards, despite playing just 24 of the offense's 72 snaps versus the Chargers. It's beyond time to see his snap counts increase.
I like him but he also has a game changing drop every game with just those snaps. But like his potential
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Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 11:54 am
by MVP2110
The offense continues to improve. The last 3 games they've looked like a legit NFL offense. I thought Jordan Love was mostly good again, certainly had some misses, but mostly played a good game and delivered some big throws late. I wanted to give credit to MLF especially. Love said after the game that the Watson TD was drawn up on the sideline by MLF, it wasn't a play in their play book. I know people think MLF is terrible but I remain fully on board with him. Up and down day for the pass catchers but more ups then downs, Reed was awesome, Wicks made some nice plays although a big drop in there, Doubs & Watson each made some nice plays. The Oline was bad in this one which makes the fact that the offense still played well that much more impressive.
I'm not giving too much credit to the defense, they got lucky the Chargers dropped 3 seperate TDs
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 12:28 pm
by BUCKnation
Mags FTW wrote:I'm upset they won, but I'm glad it was almost entirely 1st and 2nd year guys getting the yards and TDs on offense instead of dudes like Jones who wont be here next year.
That wasn't his fault and the other drops and issues before that weren't but 2 drives to get a fg and they could only muster 1 first down, which was on a 3rd down DPI.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:22 pm
by Matches Malone
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 1:35 pm
by LUKE23
Yeah, it looks like they hit on both Valentine and Johnson, Jr. which is huge. Overall, it appears to be a damn good 2023 draft. They need another one in 2024.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:53 pm
by MVP2110
Dontayvion Wicks
Karl Brooks
Carrington Valentine
Anthony Johnson Jr
The Packers had 4 day 3 rookies positively contribute to a victory yesterday. That should be incredibly exciting if you're a Packer fan
This doesn't include the other rookies like Jayden Reed, Luke Musgrave, Tucker Kraft, & Lukas Van Ness, who all were anywhere from solid to awesome yesterday.
It's hard to not be thrilled with the 2023 draft class so far
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:43 pm
by rayallenscalves
Even thought he didn't play a ton, Rhyan did enough to show that he should replace Runyan at RG.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:45 pm
by MVP2110
rayallenscalves wrote:Even thought he didn't play a ton, Rhyan did enough to show that he should replace Runyan at RG.
Absolutely. Runyan isn't going to be on the squad next year either so no reason not give Rhyan those reps
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:04 pm
by MickeyDavis
I'd still like to see more of LVN down the stretch. Smith and Gary are playing well but he needs to be worked in more.
SNAP COUNTS (72 offensive snaps, 65 defensive snaps)
Running Backs
AJ Dillon 52, Aaron Jones 15, Emanuel Wilson 6
Wide Receivers
Christian Watson 56, Jayden Reed 50, Romeo Doubs 49, Dontayvion Wicks 24, Malik Heath 15
Tight Ends
Luke Musgrave 46, Tucker Kraft 30, Ben Sims 16, Josiah Deguara 1
Offensive Linemen
Elgton Jenkins 72, Josh Myers 72, Zach Tom 72, Jon Runyan, Jr. 66, Rasheed Walker 41, Yosh Nijman 31, Sean Rhyan 6
Defensive Linemen
Kenny Clark 50, Devonte Wyatt 33, T.J. Slaton 29, Karl Brooks 25, Colby Wooden 5
Outside Linebackers
Preston Smith 51, Rashan Gary 45, Kingsley Enagbare 22, Lukas Van Ness 12
Inside Linebackers
Quay Walker 65, De’Vondre Campbell 41, Isaiah McDuffie 21
Safeties
Anthony Johnson, Jr. 65, Jonathan Owens 65, Benny Sapp 1
Cornerbacks
Corey Ballentine 65, Carrington Valentine 65, Keisean Nixon 55
TOP SPECIAL TEAMS SNAPS
Kraft 18, Dallin Leavitt 16, McDuffie 16, Eric Wilson 16, Zayne Anderson 14, Kristian Welch 14, Nixon 13, Enagbare 12, Robert Rochell 11
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 5:07 pm
by MVP2110
MickeyDavis wrote:I'd still like to see more of LVN down the stretch. Smith and Gary are playing well but he needs to be worked in more.
SNAP COUNTS (72 offensive snaps, 65 defensive snaps)
Running Backs
AJ Dillon 52, Aaron Jones 15, Emanuel Wilson 6
Wide Receivers
Christian Watson 56, Jayden Reed 50, Romeo Doubs 49, Dontayvion Wicks 24, Malik Heath 15
Tight Ends
Luke Musgrave 46, Tucker Kraft 30, Ben Sims 16, Josiah Deguara 1
Offensive Linemen
Elgton Jenkins 72, Josh Myers 72, Zach Tom 72, Jon Runyan, Jr. 66, Rasheed Walker 41, Yosh Nijman 31, Sean Rhyan 6
Defensive Linemen
Kenny Clark 50, Devonte Wyatt 33, T.J. Slaton 29, Karl Brooks 25, Colby Wooden 5
Outside Linebackers
Preston Smith 51, Rashan Gary 45, Kingsley Enagbare 22, Lukas Van Ness 12
Inside Linebackers
Quay Walker 65, De’Vondre Campbell 41, Isaiah McDuffie 21
Safeties
Anthony Johnson, Jr. 65, Jonathan Owens 65, Benny Sapp 1
Cornerbacks
Corey Ballentine 65, Carrington Valentine 65, Keisean Nixon 55
TOP SPECIAL TEAMS SNAPS
Kraft 18, Dallin Leavitt 16, McDuffie 16, Eric Wilson 16, Zayne Anderson 14, Kristian Welch 14, Nixon 13, Enagbare 12, Robert Rochell 11
That number between Brooks & Wooden is really interesting. It makes sense as Brooks has been better than Wooden this year.
At minimum LVN should be Edge 3 ahead of Enagbare at this point
I'll also keep banging the drum that I'd love to see Wicks get more playing time.
Last one, at this point Walker has consistently outplayed Nijman for a few weeks now, and Nijman won't be on the team next season. End the rotation and let Walker have the job the rest of the year.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 6:26 pm
by Treebeard
In addition to Love looking better yesterday, to my eye-test, the receivers also looked to be getting separation more often. I don't know if there's a metric for that
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:23 pm
by skones
I don't know how in the hell WR snaps should be distributed at this point. Wicks clearly deserves to be on the field more, but Doubs and Reed have made enough plays to earn their opportunities, while Watson is the guy who'll be afforded the opportunity to pull himself up by his bootstraps, and it's not like Musgrave needs fewer opportunities either. Maybe spread them out with more 4 WR sets with the snaps Kraft is getting right now? 30 snaps for him feels like too many right now.
Re: Game 10: Chargers at Packers - 11/19/23 - Noon - Fox
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 7:24 pm
by skones
Treebeard wrote:In addition to Love looking better yesterday, to my eye-test, the receivers also looked to be getting separation more often. I don't know if there's a metric for that
The playbook does seem to be more open than it was prior to this three game stretch and that shows up in the tape which looked pretty disastrous during that four game stretch.