and they are trying to trade us Larry Johnson...
Four teams in the mix with us. We are the only NFC team in the mix...
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people are talking about this over on PAckerchatters....I'm not doubting that there is interest, but I highly doubt anything happens.
There's one guy over there who posts all the info that he's hearing, and to be honest, it doesn't appear to be anything you couldn't have gleaned from reading a LOT of nationwide rumors. Then he'll leave things incredibly open-ended that any Packer fan could have come up with but b/c of his standing onthat board, everyone takes it as gospel (I litterally laughed out loud earlier this offseason when he said, "I'm hearing the PAckers will lock up Nick Barnett to a contract extension sometime soon, and also look for a contract extension with Corey Williams to be finished by the end of next season." Good stuff...) His moss rumors have gone from "somethings imminent" to "wait until the draft" to today's news "if it happens it will be no earlier than Friday" (which, quite happends to be the day before the draft). That's something that a lot of us projected back in December. So, again, I don't put much stock in him. (ohh, I also love when he says "on draft day, keep these names in mind in the first round" and then lists 6 names)
anyway, to make a long story short, he's saying that the Packers would only have to swap firsts and give up a fourth and then make LJ at least the second highest paid RB. So, I'm not buying this rumor.
There's one guy over there who posts all the info that he's hearing, and to be honest, it doesn't appear to be anything you couldn't have gleaned from reading a LOT of nationwide rumors. Then he'll leave things incredibly open-ended that any Packer fan could have come up with but b/c of his standing onthat board, everyone takes it as gospel (I litterally laughed out loud earlier this offseason when he said, "I'm hearing the PAckers will lock up Nick Barnett to a contract extension sometime soon, and also look for a contract extension with Corey Williams to be finished by the end of next season." Good stuff...) His moss rumors have gone from "somethings imminent" to "wait until the draft" to today's news "if it happens it will be no earlier than Friday" (which, quite happends to be the day before the draft). That's something that a lot of us projected back in December. So, again, I don't put much stock in him. (ohh, I also love when he says "on draft day, keep these names in mind in the first round" and then lists 6 names)
anyway, to make a long story short, he's saying that the Packers would only have to swap firsts and give up a fourth and then make LJ at least the second highest paid RB. So, I'm not buying this rumor.
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LOL, the Chiefs called.
Ted probably said "no thanks".
Don't need to hand the Chiefs a dynasty by trading an entire draft for 1 player ala Minnesota Vikings to Dallas for Herschell.
Doug Russell this morning "I don't care if you have to give up AJ Hawk, Aaron Rodgers and multiple 1sts, 2nds and 3rds open up the flood gates and get it done".
He went on to say we positively will not find a player as good as Larry Johnson at #16, he forgets Larry was pick #27 the year he was drafted. He was basically in the same boat as Lynch this year and Maroney/Addai last year. 27 years old on a guy who wants an 8 yr 65 mil deal (similiar to Tomlinson) and at best has 4 years left in him and some people would have us giving up the entire draft for him.
If all they want is our 1st I would do it, or I may consider a trade like what Balt gave up for McGahee (I think it was 2nd, 3rd and 4th) but anything more than that is outrageous and even that may be awful.
Ted probably said "no thanks".
Don't need to hand the Chiefs a dynasty by trading an entire draft for 1 player ala Minnesota Vikings to Dallas for Herschell.
Doug Russell this morning "I don't care if you have to give up AJ Hawk, Aaron Rodgers and multiple 1sts, 2nds and 3rds open up the flood gates and get it done".
He went on to say we positively will not find a player as good as Larry Johnson at #16, he forgets Larry was pick #27 the year he was drafted. He was basically in the same boat as Lynch this year and Maroney/Addai last year. 27 years old on a guy who wants an 8 yr 65 mil deal (similiar to Tomlinson) and at best has 4 years left in him and some people would have us giving up the entire draft for him.
If all they want is our 1st I would do it, or I may consider a trade like what Balt gave up for McGahee (I think it was 2nd, 3rd and 4th) but anything more than that is outrageous and even that may be awful.
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http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10147306
(April 24, 2007) -- Of all the running backs available on draft day, none is any better than Larry Johnson, who is on the trade block, multiple NFL sources confirmed Tuesday.
The Kansas City Chiefs are dangling Johnson out there, seeing if they can entice teams to trade for the 27-year-old running back that has run for 3,539 yards and 37 touchdowns the past two seasons.
The Chiefs have spoken with the Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, Tennessee Titans, Buffalo Bills and possibly others, but have not found anything close to a taker.
The Chiefs have tough decisions to make about RB Larry Johnson.
A Chiefs official insisted Tuesday that his team has not engaged in "specific" trade talks with any team. But it's a matter of semantics. They clearly have spoken in trade generalities with a number of teams, trying to gauge Johnson's value around the league and to their organization.
The reason the Chiefs are shopping Johnson is the exact reason that other teams are leery about trading for him.
Johnson is heading into the last year of his contract and is seeking a new deal that would eclipse the eight-year, $60 million contract given to San Diego running back LaDainian Tomlinson two years ago, before the NFL's salary-cap increased 36 percent. With the salary-cap skyrocketing, so is Johnson's asking price, and rightfully so.
But any team that trades for Johnson would have to satisfy the running back's asking price as well as the Chiefs', a difficult double play to pull off. One NFL general manager went as far as to say that Johnson was "untradeable -- who will pay that contract demand?"
Ultimately, maybe it will be the Chiefs, who continue to talk contract extension with Johnson in the hopes that the two sides can reach a peaceful resolution before training camp.
But to hedge their bets that they won't, the Chiefs are actively seeking to pick a running back on the first day of the draft. In the past week, they've hosted visits with California's Marshawn Lynch, Ohio State's Antonio Pittman, Florida State's Lorenzo Booker and Louisville's Kolby Smith. They've even told some of the players' agents that they plan to pick a running back high.
It is just one more sign that Johnson's future with the team is, for the time being, uncertain. Most NFL personnel people believe it is a long shot that the Chiefs will wind up trading Johnson within the next week, but it can no longer be overlooked.
The issue has garnered more attention privately within the organization than it has publicly outside it.
http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10147306
(April 24, 2007) -- Of all the running backs available on draft day, none is any better than Larry Johnson, who is on the trade block, multiple NFL sources confirmed Tuesday.
The Kansas City Chiefs are dangling Johnson out there, seeing if they can entice teams to trade for the 27-year-old running back that has run for 3,539 yards and 37 touchdowns the past two seasons.
The Chiefs have spoken with the Cleveland Browns, Green Bay Packers, Tennessee Titans, Buffalo Bills and possibly others, but have not found anything close to a taker.
The Chiefs have tough decisions to make about RB Larry Johnson.
A Chiefs official insisted Tuesday that his team has not engaged in "specific" trade talks with any team. But it's a matter of semantics. They clearly have spoken in trade generalities with a number of teams, trying to gauge Johnson's value around the league and to their organization.
The reason the Chiefs are shopping Johnson is the exact reason that other teams are leery about trading for him.
Johnson is heading into the last year of his contract and is seeking a new deal that would eclipse the eight-year, $60 million contract given to San Diego running back LaDainian Tomlinson two years ago, before the NFL's salary-cap increased 36 percent. With the salary-cap skyrocketing, so is Johnson's asking price, and rightfully so.
But any team that trades for Johnson would have to satisfy the running back's asking price as well as the Chiefs', a difficult double play to pull off. One NFL general manager went as far as to say that Johnson was "untradeable -- who will pay that contract demand?"
Ultimately, maybe it will be the Chiefs, who continue to talk contract extension with Johnson in the hopes that the two sides can reach a peaceful resolution before training camp.
But to hedge their bets that they won't, the Chiefs are actively seeking to pick a running back on the first day of the draft. In the past week, they've hosted visits with California's Marshawn Lynch, Ohio State's Antonio Pittman, Florida State's Lorenzo Booker and Louisville's Kolby Smith. They've even told some of the players' agents that they plan to pick a running back high.
It is just one more sign that Johnson's future with the team is, for the time being, uncertain. Most NFL personnel people believe it is a long shot that the Chiefs will wind up trading Johnson within the next week, but it can no longer be overlooked.
The issue has garnered more attention privately within the organization than it has publicly outside it.
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I personally think this all depends on the type of football that we plan to play once favre retires.
If we are going to go to a more running game than a passing game (seems logical) then this might not be a bad move IF the compensation that the Chiefs want is reasonable.
If they want all of our picks they can forget it, but if they want our first, and say a later pick on day 2, then lets talk.
We have money to spend, and he is a very good back that can play in cold weather.
If we are going to be a running team in the near future this would make sense.
When favres deal comes off the books, we have even more money to spend.
Should be interesting.
Lets pertend that we make this deal for say our first and a 5th....we sign him to a big deal..
In June the Raiders cut moss.....how much do you think it would cost to sign him for a 2 year deal?
If we are going to go to a more running game than a passing game (seems logical) then this might not be a bad move IF the compensation that the Chiefs want is reasonable.
If they want all of our picks they can forget it, but if they want our first, and say a later pick on day 2, then lets talk.
We have money to spend, and he is a very good back that can play in cold weather.
If we are going to be a running team in the near future this would make sense.
When favres deal comes off the books, we have even more money to spend.
Should be interesting.
Lets pertend that we make this deal for say our first and a 5th....we sign him to a big deal..
In June the Raiders cut moss.....how much do you think it would cost to sign him for a 2 year deal?
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Like someone said, he will be turning 28 at the midway point of the season, but that really doesn't concern me much. He hardly has any tread on his tires, having started less than two seasons worth of games in the NFL. I think he has plenty of burn left in him. The whole concern with me is how much we have to give up.
I highly doubt we get something done. He's gotten something like 3200 yards and 35 touchdowns in his last 25 games.
I highly doubt we get something done. He's gotten something like 3200 yards and 35 touchdowns in his last 25 games.
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I like LJ and would love to see him in a Packer uniform, but why are the Chiefs trying to unload this guy? Obviously, they don't think he's worth the asking price. If the team he's on doesn't think it's worth it, the Pack should be leery.
Look at Denver and their zone blocking scheme. They rotate different guys in there and always have success. If our line improves maybe we can do something similar. We likely don't have to commit $8M+ a year to a RB to have a successful running game.
Look at Denver and their zone blocking scheme. They rotate different guys in there and always have success. If our line improves maybe we can do something similar. We likely don't have to commit $8M+ a year to a RB to have a successful running game.
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LeopoldStotch wrote:I like LJ and would love to see him in a Packer uniform, but why are the Chiefs trying to unload this guy? Obviously, they don't think he's worth the asking price. If the team he's on doesn't think it's worth it, the Pack should be leery.
Look at Denver and their zone blocking scheme. They rotate different guys in there and always have success. If our line improves maybe we can do something similar. We likely don't have to commit $8M+ a year to a RB to have a successful running game.
multiple reasons:
1) they don't want to pay him LT money, which is what it will cost them
2) he's a FA after next year and is going to demand that money
3) he doesn't get along with Edwards or the OC
thus, based on all of the above, he would undoubtedly demand to be traded next year if franchised (most likely as I don't see the Chiefs ponying up that sort of cash).
At the end of the day, I'm not sure that they reall yill do this deal. If the PAck have to give up their first and any other selection, I'd rather just trade up for Adrian Peterson. If they can get him by swapping firsts, then that's another story and I'd do it.
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BuckPack wrote:people are talking about this over on PAckerchatters....I'm not doubting that there is interest, but I highly doubt anything happens.
There's one guy over there who posts all the info that he's hearing, and to be honest, it doesn't appear to be anything you couldn't have gleaned from reading a LOT of nationwide rumors. .
Yup, I have soured on him as well. Everything is so open ended, and nothing has happened, except those contracts, that he has said to be rumored to be in the works.
I like when he said "rumors are that Ted Ginn will run in the 4.3 range for his workout coming up"...wtf is that?
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wichmae wrote:and they are trying to trade us Larry Johnson...
Four teams in the mix with us. We are the only NFC team in the mix...
Cripes, I wonder what they want. Really would be interested in this one...
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I dont know what to think about this one. I defintly dont wanna give up a whole draft for him but hes a type of player that doesnt come along often and could possibly push us over the top. Like MIG said doesnt have much mileage on the tires although he has carried it numerous times over the past 2 years. I just want to know what they are asking then Ill make my final decision