Press Gazette re: TT & draft

[eagle13]

GB Press Gazette gives another view of TT and draft

http://greenbaypressgazette.packersnews ... 00517/1959

[Neusch23]

I saw that article. I agree with him 100%. I like the Wolf especially.

Some here think that TT is playing for the future, and is looking towards next years draft...I think he would have made the trade with the browns if that was the case.

Some think that Moss would have been the missing piece. I disagree there as well, however I think he would have helped our team win a couple 3 more games, and gave us a very good shot at the playoffs in Favres last year.

Either way, I hope that TT learned from this situation, and when he faces this situation again, and he will, that he works a little harder to get the player that we need to win, and not just sit on his hands and let another steal him from us.

[ReasonablySober]

At some point, a team has to be willing to take a risk, and Thompson seems unable or unwilling to do that. The safe way is not always the best way

Where was the risk the '06 Colts took? The '05 Steelers?

[Ayt]

I like how signing the best DE ever in FA and trading a 2nd for a 5 time Pro Bowl TE were risks Wolf took.

Trading a 1st for Favre was definitely a risk.

I'd say Thompson is taking a massive risk in cleaning house and starting over with a plan to build the teams core through the draft .

[paulpressey25]

I like how signing the best DE ever in FA and trading a 2nd for a 5 time Pro Bowl TE were risks Wolf took.

I think he probably shouldn't have used the term "risk" with Reggie White, but he did show a resolve to get it done. Green Bay was viewed terribly back then, and Wolf went up against the Redskins, Browns and 49'ers to pry White away. Everybody wanted him.

The Keith Jackson trade was a bigger gamble, since Jackson said before the deal that he wouldn't report if traded to Green Bay. He dared the Packers to trade for him. And he was a problem to get to play.

Wolf brought in Eric Dickerson at the end of his line to get a few downs out of him if he could....he just made a ton of personel moves, always trying to get better.

TT's just in a tough spot....he inheirited a club on the decline...bad cap...bare cupboard of prospects.

[th87]

At some point, a team has to be willing to take a risk, and Thompson seems unable or unwilling to do that. The safe way is not always the best way

Where was the risk the '06 Colts took? The '05 Steelers?

Corey Simon? Anthony McFarland?

[El Duderino]

I like how signing the best DE ever in FA and trading a 2nd for a 5 time Pro Bowl TE were risks Wolf took.

Trading a 1st for Favre was definitely a risk.

I'd say Thompson is taking a massive risk in cleaning house and starting over with a plan to build the teams core through the draft .

I'm very willing to give Thompson some more time to prove if he can build a winner.With that said,let's pretend and go back in time.

Do you really think Thompson would have had the balls and intiative to make any of those three big moves Wolf made?I just couldn't ever see Thompson taking the risk Wolf made to get Favre.I couldn't see Thompson being that aggressive to offer top top dollar for any elite free agent that many teams are after.Even the Jackson trade is one i'd have a hard time seeing Thompson make.It not only required a high pick,Jackson said he'd never play here.

There is no one way to build a winner in any sport,Thompson's plan could work out.Wolf though i could never see being as passive as Thompson,they obviously are quite different in personality and philosophy.I'm 95 percent sure Moss would be a Packer if Wolf was GM this offseason,that of course doesn't mean it would be sure to work out great.

[Ayt]

Let's not forget the "God told me to be a Packer" when it came to Reggie White. Plus, we were in a much better position at that point to be making big moves that might put us over the top than we are now. Big time FA's generally don't want to play for a rebuilding team.

[paulpressey25]

Let's not forget the "God told me to be a Packer" when it came to Reggie White. Plus, we were in a much better position at that point to be making big moves that might put us over the top than we are now. Big time FA's generally don't want to play for a rebuilding team.

When Reggie signed, the team was still crap in the minds of the NFL world despite a 9-7 season the year before.....

If you compare what Wolf inherited versus TT, both came into bad situations. But after two-years, Wolf had a foundation of White and Favre built, had hired a brilliant coach (who was his second choice since Parcells turned us down) and was on his way in year three (this offseason for TT)to acquiring Sean Jones. Later draft picks from 1992 like Chmura, Brooks and Edgar Bennett were coming on-line...he drafted Brunell so if Favre didn't work we had a plan B.

Wolf just accomplished a million great things those first two years....

[El Duderino]

Let's not forget the "God told me to be a Packer" when it came to Reggie White. Plus, we were in a much better position at that point to be making big moves that might put us over the top than we are now. Big time FA's generally don't want to play for a rebuilding team.

My point wasn't that White chose Green Bay,Wolf went after him full bore,he clearly offered the most money right off the bat.There was no lets see if we can get him at a fair price,Wolf wanted him and was going make sure if Reggie didn't pick Green Bay,it wouldn't be because we were trying to get him at a bargain rate.The Packers weren't just missing one piece at the time,Wolf simply wasn't content to hope and wait that in three or four years Green Bay could be a team to reckon with.

When he traded for Favre,that move took balls the size of watermelons.We weren't coming off NFC Championship games when Wolf went out and signed Jones and Santana.The trade for Jackson was a very ballsy and risky trade given Wolf gave up a second round choice for a guy that said he'd never play in Green Bay,even after the trade.It took like 3-4 weeks of Reggie White and Seth Joyner to finally talk Jackson into reporting.

As i said before,the fact that Wolf was more willing to be proactive,take risks,and be bold doesn't man Thompson can't succeed with his more conservative style.Wolf just wasn't a slowly rebuild type and if it takes 5-6 years to be truely competitive,then so be it.Maybe having such a great GM during those years jaded me.Even though i don't think TT would have had the nads to make the big moves Wolf did,it's probably unfair comparing Ted to a HOF quality GM.Plus,Thompson is such an upgrade over Sherman,i can't complain much.

[eagle13]

Yep going after Farve & Jackson was a risk. As was Rison and Howard who both had labels of being malcontents. Anyone who won't acknowledge that is just fighting hard to hang onto their weak argument and seeing things from how they turned out rather than from what they were when they happened.

In retrospect -sure it all seemed easy and a sure thing. At the time that's pure stupidity. Wolf had some misses as well which showed every move a guy makes is no guarantee. All the more reason to applaud a GM with a willigness to take calculated risks.

Thats NOT trading everything away or wasting FA dollars as some douche bags posters here fear or claim others are promoting. Wolf did neither trade away all his picks or blow tons of wasted FA dollars.

And PP is right, Pack of Wolf's 1st year was not highly regarded and had an unknown, unproven head coach.

[Reggie White]

It is so tough to find the right amount of risk taking and non-risk taking. Mike Sherman took a risk on the best available defensive end (Joe Johnson) who had a history of Pro Bowl production while playing through injuries ... then he didn't for us.

I don't fault TT for not signing more free agents this year ... but to have a motivated Randy Moss for $3 million plus incentives ... even if it was only for one year ... that would have been worth a 3rd round pick (especially when looking at the 3rd round receiver that they drafted).

[dedned]

At some point, a team has to be willing to take a risk, and Thompson seems unable or unwilling to do that. The safe way is not always the best way

Where was the risk the '06 Colts took? The '05 Steelers?

While not a risk the colts did sign a kicker that left green bay with out a contract offer. howd that work out for them?

[El Duderino]

The Colts also have Manning.Take him from that team and put just a solid/decent QB there instead,they are at best a wild card team.

[James1980]

At some point, a team has to be willing to take a risk, and Thompson seems unable or unwilling to do that. The safe way is not always the best way

Where was the risk the '06 Colts took? The '05 Steelers?

The Colts chose not to resign Edgerrin James, that was pretty risky.