Faneca wants out

Neusch23 · Post #1 » by **Neusch23** » Sat May 12, 2007 5:40 pm

http://www.realgmfootball.com/src_wiret ... _steelers/

Would be a really good boost to our line...what are your thoughts.

SteveScheffler · Post #2 » by **SteveScheffler** » Sat May 12, 2007 6:32 pm

i think we should keep our young o-line together, the offensive line has to work as one unit, while adding a great player may seem like a good descision, it may actually throw off their chemistry. plus he wants a ton of money and our lineman are relatively cheap right now.

Thunder Muscle · Post #3 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Sat May 12, 2007 7:08 pm

I agree with Steve on this one. Let our young line continue to gel. If TT wants to spend big money on OL, he would've a couple years ago w/Wahle and/or Rivera. We have guys that know the scheme and seem talented in Wells, Colledge, Spitz, etc.

Ayt · Post #4 » by **Ayt** » Sat May 12, 2007 7:09 pm

Only problem is they probably will just keep him through this season unless things get really ugly. He's definitely a great player, though I'm not sure how he'd fit the zone blocking scheme. It certainly wouldn't hurt the offense to plug him in then let Colledge/Spitz/Moll battle it out for the other guard spot.

deep throat · Post #5 » by **deep throat** » Sun May 13, 2007 1:27 pm

Steelers have a totally different line. He is not a need and will cost big $, need a CB, TE, FB, -before that. We are set at OG with Spitz and Colledge and some prospects behind them. NO

Neusch23 · Post #6 » by **Neusch23** » Sun May 13, 2007 5:12 pm

I think that they should keep a very close eye on his situation.

No matter what, we need to have a strong O line. Depending on how good of a camp our line has, if someone isn't playing up to snuff, we should look to bolster that position.

My question would be, and someone else mentioned this before, how well would he fit into the Zone scheme, but he is a beast, and would really help our line, IMO.

deep throat · Post #7 » by **deep throat** » Sun May 13, 2007 6:54 pm

Neusch23 wrote:I think that they should keep a very close eye on his situation.

No matter what, we need to have a strong O line. Depending on how good of a camp our line has, if someone isn't playing up to snuff, we should look to bolster that position.

My question would be, and someone else mentioned this before, how well would he fit into the Zone scheme, but he is a beast, and would really help our line, IMO.

He'll be 31 this year. Ted is on a five year plan from here, and he wants to save all his money.

Neusch23 · Post #8 » by **Neusch23** » Sun May 13, 2007 8:18 pm

deep throat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

He'll be 31 this year. Ted is on a five year plan from here, and he wants to save all his money.

Baring injury we could ride him for 5-6 more years, and even on a 5 year plan, having a solid line is huge for who ever is you QB, and RB.

eagle13 · Post #9 » by **eagle13** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:05 pm

As others asked - can he zone block? It would takea year to adjust. Does he have the speed and agility needed?

Twould be inconsistent for TT. Without Moss - why? Pack being TT's baby it would make no sense. I say NO.

Neusch23 · Post #10 » by **Neusch23** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:14 pm

eagle13 wrote:As others asked - can he zone block? It would takea year to adjust. Does he have the speed and agility needed?

Twould be inconsistent for TT. Without Moss - why? Pack being TT's baby it would make no sense. I say NO.

why would it matter with out moss? Wouldn't just about any QB, receiver, RB beifit from having a pro bowl lineman?

deep throat · Post #11 » by **deep throat** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:47 pm

Neusch23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

why would it matter with out moss? Wouldn't just about any QB, receiver, RB beifit from having a pro bowl lineman?

The thing is this -The packers drafted two OG's that know the sytem and already have been starting doing decent jobs. They also have Moll who was ok and drafted a OT who should be a perfect fit and eventual replacement to Tausch or Clifton.

Faneca has always played in more of a power run game where he wasn't asked to get out and move nearly as much. He is going to be 31 this season, definetly not getting faster or more agile at this juncture of his career. The history of the Zone scheme tells you that you don't have to bring in ProBowl OL -look around on Denver and Atlantas (old) line and you will se a lot of late rounders. usually what they are looking for in an O-Linemen is different from what other teams look for. Wahle would have been a great fit, and we see how Ted handled that. Ted is not going to add a older exensive OT who has never played in the zone scheme. just forget about it.

Neusch23 · Post #12 » by **Neusch23** » Sun May 13, 2007 10:57 pm

deep throat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

The thing is this -The packers drafted two OG's that know the sytem and already have been starting doing decent jobs. They also have Moll who was ok and drafted a OT who should be a perfect fit and eventual replacement to Tausch or Clifton.

Faneca has always played in more of a power run game where he wasn't asked to get out and move nearly as much. He is going to be 31 this season, definetly not getting faster or more agile at this juncture of his career. The history of the Zone scheme tells you that you don't have to bring in ProBowl OL -look around on Denver and Atlantas (old) line and you will se a lot of late rounders. usually what they are looking for in an O-Linemen is different from what other teams look for. Wahle would have been a great fit, and we see how Ted handled that. Ted is not going to add a older exensive OT who has never played in the zone scheme. just forget about it.

I was playing devils advocate, only still posting because someone felt the need to post "with out moss, why?". I felt that comment was worth blasting back with.

I posted the thread because I didn't know a lot about him other than that he is generally always on the probowl, and I don't consider 31 old for that position.

deep throat · Post #13 » by **deep throat** » Mon May 14, 2007 1:17 am

Neusch23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I was playing devils advocate, only still posting because someone felt the need to post "with out moss, why?". I felt that comment was worth blasting back with.

I posted the thread because I didn't know a lot about him other than that he is generally always on the probowl, and I don't consider 31 old for that position.

It's a fair post- I don't fault you for the idea. The Pack has a lot of money I could see where your thinking is/was going. Knowing the situation I just don't think there is any chance.

After this off-season I really believe this team has to keep adding young pieces for the future. I think we have far more pressing needs. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this team has little chance to do anything provided what they did in the off-season.

Reggie White · Post #14 » by **Reggie White** » Mon May 14, 2007 2:40 am

VERY fair post to make. We've got all this cap room still available ... what are TT's plans to use it?

Faneca won't take less money to play in Green Bay ... we'd have to do another of these 7 year, $49 million stupid contracts again that got paid to marginal players this offseason.

I would say, it might make sense, but TT will never do it.

eagle13 · Post #15 » by **eagle13** » Mon May 14, 2007 6:47 pm

Neusch23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

why would it matter with out moss? Wouldn't just about any QB, receiver, RB beifit from having a pro bowl lineman?

Deep Throat answered this the same way I would have.

As for Moss in particular - if we're not doing everthing to WIN now then doing just one thing doesn't help. An expensive older OL ALONE will not impact Pack much NOW or be a big factor in 3-4 years from now.

Post #16 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon May 14, 2007 11:06 pm

deep throat wrote:Steelers have a totally different line. He is not a need and will cost big $, need a CB, TE, FB, -before that. We are set at OG with Spitz and Colledge and some prospects behind them. NO