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Fox Sports: Favre asks for trade 

Post#1 » by livestrong4ever » Sun May 13, 2007 4:11 pm

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6805790

"Several Packers and league sources have told FOXSports.com that Brett Favre's agent Bus Cook phoned Green Bay's general manager Ted Thompson within two to three days of the draft and asked for a trade. The sources said that Cook railed off how his client was fed up with the organization and wanted out.

The shocking request appeared directly related to the team's inability to trade for WR Randy Moss.

The news was then relayed to head coach Mike McCarthy, who immediately phoned the Super Bowl winning quarterback to squash his anger. However, the quarterback ignored all his calls for a week, perhaps showing the team how upset he was this time.

Finally, in the middle of this past week the two finally connected. Sources close to the situation said Favre asked McCarthy if he was aware that Cook asked for a trade but McCarthy immediately insisted that would not happen. McCarthy told others inside the organization it appeared the team's head coach had cooled Favre's anger and by the end of the conversation admitted he didn't want to go elsewhere. However, at the same time he has told friends on other teams as well how frustrated he is with the organization's inability to land the former Pro Bowl wideout and that he, in fact, wanted out.

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Post#2 » by ReasonablySober » Sun May 13, 2007 4:21 pm

asked for a trade...

Anyway, he's echoed what I've believed since Thompson's tenure started. The team is being built to win in the future, not now, and if Thompson had his way Favre would have retired two seasons ago.

I love Favre and I'm glad I get to watch him one more season, but I'm thrilled that Thompson is building the team through defense and a good running game.

Sorry Brett.
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Post#3 » by Neusch23 » Sun May 13, 2007 4:32 pm

Put your self in bretts shoes.....I would be pissed too.

TT needs to get some balls and tell Farve his plans. If he wasn't going to plan some of it around Brett for this year, we should trade him.

I know that there are a lot of people here that disagree with me, but I believe that we dropped the ball big time in not making it happen to get Moss.

TT needs to look in the mirror and make some hard decisions. He can keep ignoring the big questions when it comes to Favre.

While sherman was reckless with his signings, at least he showed the guts to try and win now. While we don't need someone that extreme, we now have a GM who is the opposite extreme. Its like freeking democrats and republicans.

Not landing Moss easily cost us 3 wins, and probably a playoff berth.

I understand that we have a harder schedule, but at the same time, he would have opened things up so much for Driver and Jennings that we would have been able to spread it around a lot better.

Favre isn't an MVP player any more, but he is better than a large portion of the NFL QB's out there.

Our back up is a lost cause....take Favre off of this team and we will struggle to win 2 games, IMO....as it is, we will probably only win 5-7 games...had we had a player like Moss, we could have been looking at 8-10 wins and a playoff berth.

I am just tired of us sitting on our hands.
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Post#4 » by Neusch23 » Sun May 13, 2007 4:34 pm

DrugBust wrote:asked for a trade...

Anyway, he's echoed what I've believed since Thompson's tenure started. The team is being built to win in the future, not now, and if Thompson had his way Favre would have retired two seasons ago.

I love Favre and I'm glad I get to watch him one more season, but I'm thrilled that Thompson is building the team through defense and a good running game.

Sorry Brett.


At the same time, TT needs to man up and talk to brett. Those comments Brett made show that there is no line of communication between him and his GM.

If you're going to build through the draft, fine. I don't have a problem with that....But as long as Brett is still here, you have to put some weapons around him. You have to...or crap like this happens.
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Post#5 » by deep throat » Sun May 13, 2007 5:38 pm

I just got wind of this Fox report as well, probably going to hear this all over for the next couple days at least.

I think Ted will be very lucky to make it past this year with the Pack. He really f'd u the situation with Moss. He drafted a position that was not a primary need in round one and took a player that has an EXTENSIVE injury history. Everyone says he could have been a top 10 pick if not for the injury, THE PROBLEM IS HE DID HAVE THE INJURY. You could have said the same for Michael Bush-where did he go? I'm telling you right now, this guy is not suddenly going to avoid injury going up against bigger, faster, and stronger players. He then reached for a possession type WR who couldn't even make 1st team All-conference in the weak WAC. On top of that he was red flagged for not being smart enough to learn his playbook-is the West Coast offense easier to learn? After the draft the JS interviewed various Scouts in the league and they agreed they thought that was one of the bigger reaches in the first three rounds. It also is pretty clear he is not the swiftest guy when it comes to free agency. I'm down with not overpaying players and sacrificing your cap in the future, but he could have front loaded a couple of those deals wth the massive amount of cap space he has available. Even if he would have signed one impact player (and yes overpaid him) he could have heavily front loaded that contract-making subsequent years relatively cheap. We go into this year with the weakest RB and TE group in the NFL. An average at best group of WR-more question marks than answers with all besides Driver. The OTs are getting older (Clifton did not have a great year) and Colledge, Spitz, Moll, and Wells are average at BEST. Part of the reason Franks numbers have been down is due to the fact he has had to stay in and help block more than he did a few years ago. Can you really blame Favre for wanting to get the hell out of Dodge?

Ted and M3 are really going to feel the pain if they have to turn to AR. To be honest I hope Favre gets a chance somewhere else where he can win, and Ted falls flat on his face (Favre: "who's laughing now"). If Favre is gone, and AR is the man I guarantee you this board will be talking McFadden by week 10.
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Post#6 » by Flames24Rulz » Sun May 13, 2007 5:59 pm

Yeah, this is a bad headline because later on in the article, he says that the Packers would be the only team that he could see himself playing for.

I'd probably have done the same thing. I mean, 1 year for $3 million for Moss? Are you joking? What GM WOULDN'T do that? I'm sure every other GM out there besides Thompson would've taken Moss for that small of a price.
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Post#7 » by trwi7 » Sun May 13, 2007 6:00 pm

Flames24Rulz wrote:Yeah, this is a bad headline because later on in the article, he says that the Packers would be the only team that he could see himself playing for.

I'd probably have done the same thing. I mean, 1 year for $3 million for Moss? Are you joking? What GM WOULDN'T do that? I'm sure every other GM out there besides Thompson would've taken Moss for that small of a price.


Actually we also would have had to give up a valuable 4th round pick as well.
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Post#8 » by Ayt » Sun May 13, 2007 6:07 pm

I wanted Favre to go to a good team two years ago so he could play out his final years in style. There is no point for a 38 year QB to be on a rebuilding team.
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Post#9 » by trwi7 » Sun May 13, 2007 6:08 pm

Ayt wrote:I wanted Favre to go to a good team two years ago so he could play out his final years in style. There is no point for a 38 year QB to be on a rebuilding team.


Get the best of both worlds. Favre can go out on top and Thompson can cream his pants over a couple mid round picks that we'd get for him.
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Post#10 » by deep throat » Sun May 13, 2007 6:14 pm

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Actually we also would have had to give up a valuable 4th round pick as well.


With the 6th pick in the 4th round Ted Thompson selects Cory Rodgers. (after the draft) "Ted, Cory had a rather slow 40 time (4.6) does that concern you at all"? (Ted) "Cory is a football player, that's what we're tryig to bring in here .....blah, blah, blah"

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Post#11 » by trwi7 » Sun May 13, 2007 6:18 pm

deep throat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



With the 6th pick in the 4th round Ted Thompson selects Cory Rodgers. (after the draft) "Ted, Cory had a rather slow 40 time (4.6) does that concern you at all"? (Ted) "Cory is a football player, that's what we're tryig to bring in here .....blah, blah, blah"

That was another reach.


Seriously I was just getting over this and now this comes out. Bug Eyes Thompson strikes again.
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Post#12 » by deep throat » Sun May 13, 2007 6:23 pm

Ayt wrote:I wanted Favre to go to a good team two years ago so he could play out his final years in style. There is no point for a 38 year QB to be on a rebuilding team.


The thing is ted can't get rid of him for PR reasons.

Favre quotes:

"I don't have five years to rebuild. No one in Green Bay is saying rebuild but it's hard to look at where we are going and say, 'How can they not be rebuilding?' ding ding -Just getting that now?

"I don't know if I've lost faith, and I think everyone in the organization wants to win. I just don't know if it includes me. If it's going to be five years from now, I'm not going to be here. This is 17 years for me and I want to win." -If you want to win demand a trade, they aren't interested in winning now.
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Post#13 » by deep throat » Sun May 13, 2007 6:27 pm

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Seriously I was just getting over this and now this comes out. Bug Eyes Thompson strikes again.


Didn't you know he can look into a man's soul with those eyes. Remember how he told us that after he hired M3. His medical staff didn't have to do extensive tests on Harrell they were simlpy able to have a doctor "lay his hands on Harrell" and they came away PRETY confident. DIdn't need to look any further.

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Post#14 » by BuckPack » Sun May 13, 2007 6:29 pm

I doubt Favre demanded a trade, but I bet he did ream out McCarthy and co. for not going after Moss.

Listening to Favre call out the Pack for not getting Moss is really just re-opening wounds. I was pissed off big time on the sunday of the draft, but I moved on with the excitement of the picks....now to sit back and look at what should have been...it's really tough.

Moss is going to have a big year and I'm sure it's going to get even worse...
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Post#15 » by trwi7 » Sun May 13, 2007 6:39 pm

BuckPack wrote:Moss is going to have a big year and I'm sure it's going to get even worse...


Hopefully it rubs salt in the wounds of fans enough that it gets TT fired. God I can't stand looking at him.
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Post#16 » by deep throat » Sun May 13, 2007 6:39 pm

BuckPack wrote:
Moss is going to have a big year and I'm sure it's going to get even worse...


Hey BP, Yes I'm afraid you are right. I think Moss is going to have a monster year. What will all the smart guys who were pointing to his low production the last couple years with that mess of a team in Oakland have to say then?

The best thing for this team is for Favre to go elsewhere. if we're going to rebuild might as well not do it just half a$$-start AR and let's fight it out with the Raiders and Lions for the top pick.
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Post#17 » by deep throat » Sun May 13, 2007 6:42 pm

trwi7 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Hopefully it rubs salt in the wounds of fans enough that it gets TT fired. God I can't stand looking at him.


Have you seen what they have on Ted on Wikipedia? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson

Here's the last sentence -

Ted Thompson is also noteable hated among most Packer Fans. He is often thought to be a robot sent by the Vikings to destroy the Green Bay Packers form with in. Proof of his is that Ted Thompson never blinks, leaving one to believe that the android rumors are true.
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Post#18 » by DigitalFool » Sun May 13, 2007 7:03 pm

deep throat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Have you seen what they have on Ted on Wikipedia? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Thompson

Here's the last sentence -

Ted Thompson is also noteable hated among most Packer Fans. He is often thought to be a robot sent by the Vikings to destroy the Green Bay Packers form with in. Proof of his is that Ted Thompson never blinks, leaving one to believe that the android rumors are true.


That is indeed great...
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Post#19 » by paulpressey25 » Sun May 13, 2007 7:14 pm

I'm not against what TT is doing here (except from him passing on Brady Quinn if he's truly going to pitch Favre to the side).

The problem with TT though is that he may be one of those guys best suited to be a second banana. A guy who sits and watches film for 15 hours a day and then reports up to a guy like Wolf or someone else.

It's pretty clear TT doesn't understand how to deal with people, much less the media. It's one thing if you can't deal with the media. But if he can't deal with his players, especially Favre, that's not good. TT is missing that "CEO" skill. The ability to understand what is going on around you, and read and react to situations.

He's completely tone deaf, and usually guys like that are good for doing one thing in an organization. In this case Ted's job was to be the guy who wouldn't care what people said, and he'd clear out Sherman and Favre, ending that era. The problem is that guys like TT are usually interim guys because they lack the skills needed to then build something of their own.
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Post#20 » by trwi7 » Sun May 13, 2007 7:29 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:A guy who sits and watches film for 15 hours a day and then reports up to a guy like Wolf or someone else.


Since he never blinks I think this would be a perfect job for him.
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