What's the story with Corey?

eagle13 · Post #1 » by **eagle13** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:53 am

Corey Williams was statistically our best interior pass rusher last season.
He also did pretty well against the run. Not great but solid.
He's not the major bruiser inside and thus understandably does not fit Pack's ideal scheme at DT which I agree with.

But they are finally doing what I have stated in this and last years preview I gave that Corey can also play DE.

I was right about Jenkins who I touted as a starting DE from his first season here. Corey can be the lines 5th man - no matter the position - first off the bench. A regular part of the pass rush squad at DT. Great backup DE against either run or pass.

So that is obvious to me
and since DL are considered to be so valuable that we would draft one in first round to have more -
Thus Corey seems worth a reasonably nice contract to me

So I wonder why TT has not resigned him?

We have plenty of cash and a front loaded deal would seem advantageous to both parties. Corey gets his cash now and Pack reduces cap number in future years by paying now. So it ain't a cap thing.

For sure IF Harrell pans out he

LUKE23 · Post #2 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:17 pm

I think it makes sense to wait on re-signing him, based on what he shows this season. We are already a legit 7 deep with quality DL (Jenkins, Pickett, Harrell, Kampman, KGB, Cole, Jolly) outside of Williams.

I think the competition on the DL will bring out the best in all of the players. Given how much TT has shown he values DL play, I think Williams will get an extension if he has a solid year.

Johnny Newman · Post #3 » by **Johnny Newman** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:31 pm

We have $13.3 million yet to spend now. Also next year the cap will raise to a extra $8 million. Also if Favre happens to retire thats another $11 or so million to spend. Packers have to much money for TT to think about. I'm not saying go hog wild and spend it foolishly. Thats probably why we didn't trade for LJ and Gonzales. I think were building the cheaper route as in the draft. But we should keep our own that we been farming as in Corey Williams.

Post #4 » by **ReasonablySober** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 8:49 pm

Not signing Williams is a bit of a mystery to me, especially if he can move over to DE on occasion. I don't know if it's because he doesn't want to be here due to the fact he'll never be a starter, or if he's asking for more than what Ted thinks he's worth. Maybe the staff is simply content to let him walk.

I really have no idea.

BuckPack · Post #5 » by **BuckPack** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:20 pm

I'd hate to let a young, talented d-lineman like Williams walk, but I see no reason to invest more into the d-line than we have already the last few years. I don't think his PT will justify big bucks. If he can play DE well, then that increases his versatility fo rthe roster, but I don't think he'll be able to play there as well as someone like Jenkins.

I'd rather look to improve elsewhere, if possible.

Johnny Newman · Post #6 » by **Johnny Newman** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:49 pm

BuckPack wrote:I'd hate to let a young, talented d-lineman like Williams walk, but I see no reason to invest more into the d-line than we have already the last few years. I don't think his PT will justify big bucks. If he can play DE well, then that increases his versatility fo rthe roster, but I don't think he'll be able to play there as well as someone like Jenkins.

I'd rather look to improve elsewhere, if possible.

Ya but the spending times are different. Theres never enough good free agents to buy. Unless you go nuts and over spend stupidly. Thats why its different now. Pretty much have to get lucky and draft great players and keep them with own cap. Then if near a SB window then over spend to get that final piece or two. I would give him a Cullen Jenkins deal. Its not gonna kill us. He probably can push Pickett soon for a starter spot.

BuckPack · Post #7 » by **BuckPack** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 9:55 pm

Johnny Newman wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Ya but the spending times are different. Theres never enough good free agents to buy. Unless you go nuts and over spend stupidly. Thats why its different now. Pretty much have to get lucky and draft great players and keep them with own cap. Then if near a SB window then over spend to get that final piece or two. I would give him a Cullen Jenkins deal. Its not gonna kill us. He probably can push Pickett soon for a starter spot.

very true, but there are certain players that it might be worth opening the wallet for next year (ala Turner, Michael)....

say we draft a TE or WR or DB with our first pick and Morency/Jackson prove to be nothing more than a #2 back...I'd certainly think we'd be itnerested in someone like Turner. Now we may have enough room to sign Turner w/out resigning Williams, but I have a feeling Wiliams would command pretty nice sum on the open market (for many of the same reasons you list above). So, if we don't resign him before he hits FA, I think we can kiss him goodbye....

I would wait on him, however...no rush until we see what Jenkins, Cole, Jolly and Harrell can do first...

xTitan · Post #8 » by **xTitan** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:23 pm

Corey Williams is a nice player, who has a ton of incentive now to have a big year...the majority of his sacks came in 2 games...he is far from consistent...the Packers can also tag him at the end of the year, with a transitional tag, that way they don't have to pay him huge money and if someone wants him bad enough they can pick up some draft picks.....Williams is FAR from a major impact player that you would feel the need to lock up right away......Plus as Harrell works himself into shape he will get alot of minutes at tackle as well....the Packers want a rotation of huge tackles to keep the lineman off there fast backers so they can run around and make plays all day....similiar to what Jacksonville likes to do on defense.

El Duderino · Post #9 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:15 am

If Williams shows he can get to the QB again this year,i'd hope resign him for at least simple possession of an asset.Tackles who can pressure the QB have value in the NFL,there aren't a huge supply of them.

As the season starts to progress,the amount of options left to use cap space on that counts against this years cap dwindles by the day.If Williams plays well,we could sign him and frontload the vast majority of the bonus to count against this years cap before that space simply vanishes without serving a positive purpose.

Then the team could judge the progress of guys like Harrell/Jolley during the season and see if keeping all DT's next year makes sense or one could be used as trait bait in the offseason.