Favre vs AROD

Johnny Newman · Post #1 » by **Johnny Newman** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:51 pm

I remember the MJS paper saying AROD in the past use to get all huffy when a receiver wouldn't catch a ball. Now he's different this year in mini camps. Now its looking the same way with Favre last night. While AROD is the opposite throwing nice passes. While Favre throwing bullets no one is catching. I think this is ARODS team next year. Were gonna have to force Favre to retire after this year or trade him like how the 49ers dealt Montana.

Senor Bogut · Post #2 » by **Senor Bogut** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:39 pm

I have no doubt that Rodgers will be the future and be a solid QB, but trading Favre is just out of the question.

eagle13 · Post #3 » by **eagle13** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:43 pm

Senor Bogut wrote:I have no doubt that Rodgers will be the future and be a solid QB, but trading Favre is just out of the question.

It is now. Too bad neither Brett or TT had the brains or balls respectively to do it 2 years ago.

mbucks22 · Post #4 » by **mbucks22** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:52 pm

God I love when people jump to conclusions so quickly. Makes for hysterical stuff down the road.

bigkurty · Post #5 » by **bigkurty** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:12 pm

I have to admit, I thought the same thing at first on the play were James Jones stopped cutting in but it was only one play and I think Favre see's a lot of potential in the kid and that is why he rides him a little harder to push him. He doesn't get the chance to play much with the WR's who are lower on the depth chart so I wonder if he rides them like that in practice. ARod is looking leaps and bounds better with his play and body language though. I guess the kid is growing up.

The other thing with favre is he has always gotten on his lower string wideouts about running the wrong routes. He used to get on Freeman, Driver, Walker, and just about every guy when they were young and new to the league. And all those guys became very good and ended up having great football chemistry with Favre. Maybe there is a method to his madness.

xTitan · Post #6 » by **xTitan** » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:38 pm

eagle13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It is now. Too bad neither Brett or TT had the brains or balls respectively to do it 2 years ago.

Wow...we agree 100% on this....this will be Favre's last year in a Packer uniform one way or another.

eagle13 · Post #7 » by **eagle13** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 2:05 am

xTitan wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Wow...we agree 100% on this....this will be Favre's last year in a Packer uniform one way or another.

Yes we agree about 2 years ago. Not sure with 2nd half of your statement. I could imagine scenarios of Brett comming back for another year if everything worked out just right. Highly doubtful. Probably not even good -don't know. Just saying I'm not as certain as you what will happen.

El Duderino · Post #8 » by **El Duderino** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 4:59 am

eagle13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It is now. Too bad neither Brett or TT had the brains or balls respectively to do it 2 years ago.

I highly question if that would have been good for the development of Rodgers.If we had thrown Rodgers out there as a rookie given he was nowhere near ready to play and on top of that the offensive line was a mess,it would have likely been very ugly.

Maybe Rodgers going out there looking miserable wouldn't have shattered his confidence,but it might have.Watching him this year i think Rodgers is now ready to play and it would be in the long term interest of the team if he was,but one more season learning won't kill him.

Of course in the case of Brett,it would have been better for him to move on two years ago if trying to win was his highest priority.My guess is he'd have considered it,but i also do think he didn't really want to put on a different uniform and start over in a new city.

So long as Brett retires after this season,him hanging around may have been the best thing for the franchise even if he stayed one more year than what was optimal.He allowed Rodgers to learn and improve without getting thrown to the wolves way before he was ready and on a team with a bad offensive line and few weapons.

xTitan · Post #9 » by **xTitan** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 3:34 pm

highly question if that would have been good for the development of Rodgers.If we had thrown Rodgers out there as a rookie given he was nowhere near ready to play and on top of that the offensive line was a mess,it would have likely been very ugly.

Maybe Rodgers going out there looking miserable wouldn't have shattered his confidence,but it might have.Watching him this year i think Rodgers is now ready to play and it would be in the long term interest of the team if he was,but one more season learning won't kill him.

Of course in the case of Brett,it would have been better for him to move on two years ago if trying to win was his highest priority.My guess is he'd have considered it,but i also do think he didn't really want to put on a different uniform and start over in a new city.

So long as Brett retires after this season,him hanging around may have been the best thing for the franchise even if he stayed one more year than what was optimal.He allowed Rodgers to learn and improve without getting thrown to the wolves way before he was ready and on a team with a bad offensive line and few weapons.

You are right...it might not have been the best scenario for Rodgers but 2 years ago you might have been able to get a late first or second round pick for Favre and that could be a big piece of the rebuilding puzzle...at this point you'd get nothing for Farve....I do think the ability for Rodgers to mature without getting killed has helped him immensely....he entered the NFL very young 20 or 21 I believe. I just think Farve could have a very poor year this year and it appears to me at the moment he is not having fun and acts like he wishes he would have retired.

Johnny Newman · Post #10 » by **Johnny Newman** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:03 pm

If Favre retires next summer. Thats like $11M to spend also carrying cap over this season that we didnt spend as in $13.3M. Beside the cap raising like $8M. So that can be alot of weapons for Rodgers.

Neusch23 · Post #11 » by **Neusch23** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 5:15 pm

stop the 2 years ago stuff. There was NO, NO, NO way that Aaron was ready to do.

He wasn't even ready last year. The difference he has made from last season to this preason is very promising, but lets not put a crown on him yet.

I believe this is Favres last year. Lets enjoy it, and pray that Aaron makes similar improvements over this year, and we continue to get better.

xTitan · Post #12 » by **xTitan** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:25 pm

Neusch23 wrote:stop the 2 years ago stuff. There was NO, NO, NO way that Aaron was ready to do.

He wasn't even ready last year. The difference he has made from last season to this preason is very promising, but lets not put a crown on him yet.

I believe this is Favres last year. Lets enjoy it, and pray that Aaron makes similar improvements over this year, and we continue to get better.

Rodgers has taken the pre-season and back-up thing as far as he can....the only way for improvement now is game situations.....after Favre breaks his TD record...if the Packers bomb (which I doubt) it will be Rodgers time to get the experience he needs in a wasted season.

TheGhostDog · Post #13 » by **TheGhostDog** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 6:34 pm

eagle13 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Too bad neither Brett or TT had the brains or balls respectively to do it 2 years ago.

That would have been, politically, almost an absolute impossibility for Thompson. TT was hired as GM in January, 2005, just after Favre finished up a 4,000 yard, 30TD 17INT season. Do you honestly think as his first act the rookie GM could have traded away the 13-year team leader, face of the Packer franchise and perhaps the most-loved figure in the entire NFL?! TT would have been fired on the spot and lynched the first footsep he took into the Lambeau Field atrium.

Ayt · Post #14 » by **Ayt** » Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:04 pm

Trading him after the 4-12 season and the coaching change would have worked out well for both parties, but its all oatmeal under the bridge, as they say.

Senor Bogut · Post #15 » by **Senor Bogut** » Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:01 pm

Unless Favre requests a trade, he's not going to be traded. He loves Green Bay. The fans, community, and the organization. Green Bay is where he was given a chance to play, win MVP awards, and win a championship. Why would Favre want to ruin his legacy as a packer? If he hadn't won a ring, I can MAYBE see a trade, but he has won it all.