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Post#1 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:32 pm

Robert Lee, of the Providence Journal, reports New England Patriots WR Chad Jackson (knee) is a long shot to make the team.
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Post#2 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:46 pm

But he's got ideal measurements and ran a 4.38!
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Post#3 » by LUKE23 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:47 pm

TT should have definitely taken the speed and athletic ability instead of the solid route runner with good hands and ability to run after the catch last draft.
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Post#4 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:47 pm

That said if he's cut I'd sign him as a fifth WR.
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Post#5 » by Comet » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:55 pm

nvm
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Post#6 » by LUKE23 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 10:56 pm

No reason not to take a flyer on him. He could become better than Martin, Holiday, Clowney I'd say, all guys that would probably struggle to make other NFL rosters.

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Post#7 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:03 pm

Comet wrote:-= original quote snipped =-


But surely there's a reason the Patriots will cut their 2006 second-round draft pick?


Yup. They are, in order:

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Post#8 » by Comet » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:10 pm

LUKE23 wrote:No reason not to take a flyer on him. He could become better than Martin, Holiday, Clowney I'd say, all guys that would probably struggle to make other NFL rosters.

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Jones
Robinson
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I'd definitely consider him, but let's think about this. Jackson hasn't done anything so far. Martin, who I like more then Jackson, has done more.

Though I might take Jackson over Clowney and Holiday.
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Post#9 » by deep throat » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:12 pm

LUKE23 wrote:TT should have definitely taken the speed and athletic ability instead of the solid route runner with good hands and ability to run after the catch last draft.


YOUR FUNNY: First of all he was not available when they took Jennings so Ted didn't have the choice. The problem isn't with his hands or run after the catch, It's about a serious injury. Rememeber Terrance Murphy? Remeber 4th rounder Charles Rogers? You can't say he's a bust because he gets injured. Can't blame TT for Terrance and you can't blame NE for Chad Jackson. They have drafted better then anyone in the NFL recently and they were high enough on him that they traded up to get him (over Jennings), but I guess they don't know anything.

They may put him on IR.
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Post#10 » by El Duderino » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:16 pm

I wasn't a big fan of Jackson going into the draft and was happy we never had the chance to draft him,but if TT wanted a free look,i'd be all for it.
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Post#11 » by LUKE23 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:18 pm

deep throat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



YOUR FUNNY: First of all he was not available when they took Jennings so Ted didn't have the choice. The problem isn't with his hands or run after the catch, It's about a serious injury. Rememeber Terrance Murphy? Remeber 4th rounder Charles Rogers? You can't say he's a bust because he gets injured. Can't blame TT for Terrance and you can't blame NE for Chad Jackson. They have drafted better then anyone in the NFL recently and they were high enough on him that they traded up to get him (over Jennings), but I guess they don't know anything.

They may put him on IR.


Actually the Packers traded pick 36 TO NEW ENGLAND, the pick that was used on Jackson, so yes, they could have obtained him if they wanted to.

http://football.about.com/od/nfldrafthi ... result.htm

Jackson had many question marks coming into the draft, one of the injuries, the other was terrible route running. That obviously all came true.

The moral of the story is that there is a ton more to WR's than size and speed. Hands, route running, and ability to YAC are huge factors.

That said, I'd still take him as a #5. Nothing to lose there. But TT DEFINITELY made the right move taking Jennings over him.
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Post#12 » by deep throat » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:43 pm

LUKE23 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Actually the Packers traded pick 36 TO NEW ENGLAND, the pick that was used on Jackson, so yes, they could have obtained him if they wanted to.

http://football.about.com/od/nfldrafthi ... result.htm

Jackson had many question marks coming into the draft, one of the injuries, the other was terrible route running. That obviously all came true.

The moral of the story is that there is a ton more to WR's than size and speed. Hands, route running, and ability to YAC are huge factors.

That said, I'd still take him as a #5. Nothing to lose there. But TT DEFINITELY made the right move taking Jennings over him.


They could have taken Jennings to at #36 so what's your point? The fact is one of the best drafting teams in the NFL (if not the best) took him over Moss and Jennings. I don't remember him having an injury history, maybe you can find that for me.

Jennings (like Jackson)had question marks to, as almost all players do-(from Scouts): Lack of ideal NFL "measurable" will cost him on draft day. He has below-average height and bulk. He lacks ideal strength. He doesn't show the leaping ability or size to make many plays vertically in the passing game at the NFL level. He will have more trouble getting off the LOS and will get pushed around by bigger DB's. He also must prove that he has the speed and elusiveness to transfer his punt return production to the NFL.

When did I say that the only thing was speed and size-hands route running, etc? OBVIOUSLY THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, the added combination of speed and size is what makes Calvin Johnosn, Andre Johnson, Roy Williams, and Javon Walker (to mention a few) stud elite #1 WRs.

The bottom line is if Chad jackson get cut (which is not a done deal) it is because they have two teams worth of WRs and he has been hurt. Your smart asssss little comment was uncalled for and inaccurate.

The thing I wasn't a big Jackson guy going into the draft. Just having speed and size is not the end-all, it's just one of the important ingredents that many (most) of the great ones have. It helps make a lot of the little CBs look bad. Remember Buckley against Irvin or Harer?

I'm done with this assanine thread. Go knock yourself out.
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Post#13 » by LUKE23 » Mon Aug 27, 2007 11:56 pm

deep throat wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



They could have taken Jennings to at #36 so what's your point? The fact is one of the best drafting teams in the NFL (if not the best) took him over Moss and Jennings. I don't remember him having an injury history, maybe you can find that for me.

Jennings (like Jackson)had question marks to, as almost all players do-(from Scouts): Lack of ideal NFL "measurable" will cost him on draft day. He has below-average height and bulk. He lacks ideal strength. He doesn't show the leaping ability or size to make many plays vertically in the passing game at the NFL level. He will have more trouble getting off the LOS and will get pushed around by bigger DB's. He also must prove that he has the speed and elusiveness to transfer his punt return production to the NFL.

When did I say that the only thing was speed and size-hands route running, etc? OBVIOUSLY THAT GOES WITHOUT SAYING, the added combination of speed and size is what makes Calvin Johnosn, Andre Johnson, Roy Williams, and Javon Walker (to mention a few) stud elite #1 WRs.

The bottom line is if Chad jackson get cut (which is not a done deal) it is because they have two teams worth of WRs and he has been hurt. Your smart asssss little comment was uncalled for and inaccurate.

The thing I wasn't a big Jackson guy going into the draft. Just having speed and size is not the end-all, it's just one of the important ingredents that many (most) of the great ones have. It helps make a lot of the little CBs look bad. Remember Buckley against Irvin or Harer?

I'm done with this assanine thread. Go knock yourself out.


No argument that NE generally makes great personnel decisions, but they aren't perfect. Judging by last year and Jackson getting cut this season, it appears TT did a great thing by getting a better WR later in the draft and also adding another pick in the process.

Jennings did not have below average bulk. 5-11 and 197. That was one of his strong suits coming into the draft. His knock was always lack of break end deep speed (although a 4.48 40 really isn't that bad). He and James Jones are very similar players. Strong, no top speed, but great hands, run precise routes, and can get yards after the catch.

The bottom line is that Jackson is being released and Jennings was on his way to a 1K season before injury last year.

I don't get why you're getting so worked up either. I'm just trying to make the point ad nauseum that there is so much more to being a productive WR than 40 times and size.
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Post#14 » by smacks1 » Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:52 am

I don't think we really want to start counting inaccurate comments now do we??? :wavefinger: :wavefinger:

Thompson could have drafted Jackson, and chose not to. Whatever the reason was, I'm glad we have Jennings.

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