Build for Today, Bring in Corey Dillon?

[Neusch23]

Alright. I normally don't do this because it is early in the season, but I believe that because we have over achieved thus far to a 3-0 start, we have to take a look at our team, and where we need help and try to make a move.

Normally a NFL team can not do this during the season.

You don't see trades in football like you do in basketball or baseball for a playoff push, but I think that you have to take a look at who is out there as a FA and think about making a move for right now, and not about the future.

While we may be building for the future, if we take 3/4 from the lions and the queens, we are at 6 wins out of 7 games, can we win 3 of the other 9 games? I believe that 9-7 gets us in the playoffs.

We need a running game, and bad.

I say we over spend and bring in Corey Dillon if we think he is in game shape, and do it soon.

I personally also look at available FB out there. Could William Henderson help this team?

Dillion is a key, I believe. I think we could easily win 10-11 games if we were to add a runner who could give us 80 yards a game, eat up clock, and let our defense rest.

If we don't get our running game going we are going to wear out our D come late in the season.

We need to make a move, IMHO. What are your thoughts, people?

[LUKE23]

I don't think he helps us all that much, the main issues on this team right now are on the OL. I think Morency is the best RB we have for the ZBS because he makes by far the quickest decisions of any of our backs, and is more elusive as well.

I think Morency will help more than people think. Granted, I don't expect this team to kill people on the ground.

[Thunder Muscle]

No.

[Neusch23]

I don't think he helps us all that much, the main issues on this team right now are on the OL. I think Morency is the best RB we have for the ZBS because he makes by far the quickest decisions of any of our backs, and is more elusive as well.

I think Morency will help more than people think. Granted, I don't expect this team to kill people on the ground.

tough for a player to help us when he can't stay healthy.....

I think that Bubba has made us forget a bit about our TE's, I like the play of our line the past 2 weeks, Robinson is coming back in a week I believe, he will be another WR weapon....

we have major problems at RB.

Dillon has good hands, can catch the ball out of the back field, and can still run.

I think he would be a solid vet to bring in. I don't think the will win a game by him self for us, but I think he would play a roll when we need him to, to help us win more games.

[Neusch23]

No.

Wow, great post. Love your reasons!

[LUKE23]

Well, we're 3-0 and play a piss poor team next week, so I guess I'm not in dire straights. If we couldn't pass the ball right now either, I'd maybe consider it.

Morency will be back this week or vs. the Bears at the latest. I don't think Dillon, at this age, makes any kind of impact on this team, and why mess with the chemistry right now either??

[Neusch23]

Well, we're 3-0 and play a piss poor team next week, so I guess I'm not in dire straights. If we couldn't pass the ball right now either, I'd maybe consider it.

Morency will be back this week or vs. the Bears at the latest. I don't think Dillon, at this age, makes any kind of impact on this team, and why mess with the chemistry right now either??

at his age? I am not talking about bringing in Priest or Bo Jackson here.

I remember seeing an article that he was looking for specific money to play.

I really think that Tiki could also be had for the right amount of money.

I would rather have dillon, however. He showed that he wasn't a locker room cancer with the Pats.

I am looking toward the future. If we signed him this week. He would have a few weeks to learn the system. Imagine how great it would be to have a running game after the the bye week?!

[El Duderino]

Dillon has good hands, can catch the ball out of the back field, and can still run.

If he could still run he'd have a job,his legs are shot

[xTitan]

Someone saw Dillon at a golf outing and I heard he was pushing 250....i am not worried about the running attack at all there is some young talent there and as they learn and grow they will be fine by the end of the year....this is full circle for Farve, same situation as Edgar B. and Dorsey L. early on.

[LUKE23]

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at his age? I am not talking about bringing in Priest or Bo Jackson here.

I remember seeing an article that he was looking for specific money to play.

I really think that Tiki could also be had for the right amount of money.

I would rather have dillon, however. He showed that he wasn't a locker room cancer with the Pats.

I am looking toward the future. If we signed him this week. He would have a few weeks to learn the system. Imagine how great it would be to have a running game after the the bye week?!

Umm, what? Dillon turns 33 in one month, Holmes turns 34 in one month. Give me a list of even 10 RB's throughout history who have had good seasons after that age. He alo has over 2600 carries in his career. The guy is done.

[Neusch23]

Well, he ran for over 800 yards last season, and 13 TD's...while splitting time at RB...He played all 16 games...I don't think his legs are "shot".

But like I said in my original post, if he was in any shape at all, he is better than any other RB on our roster.

hell, I would throw a bunch of money at Tiki Barber to come back and play for us.

We seem to be making nearly every decision lately for the future of the packers...well we are playing well, with a glaring weakness....RB. I really think that we need to look at doing something about it, at least more than what we have done.

[LUKE23]

I think Morency will surprise you. Regardless of who is at RB, the bulk of this offense is coming from Brett's arm and our talented trio of WR's. The OL is probably more to blame than anything regarding running the ball.

[Neusch23]

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Umm, what? Dillon turns 33 in one month, Holmes turns 34 in one month. Give me a list of even 10 RB's throughout history who have had good seasons after that age. He alo has over 2600 carries in his career. The guy is done.

again, he was productive last season.

I am not talking about making the guy a feature back that runs the ball 25-30 times a game. Lets look at this with some common sense and not say that because we have a weaker opponent next weak that we shouldn't worry about it.

78% of teams that have started the season at 3-0 in the Super Bowl era have made the playoffs. We need to improve that statistic.

We have a glaring weakness. There are people out there that COULD help us.

He wouldn't be a bad option to bring in and split time with Jackson.

Again, I don't care how old he is going to be in a month, he is better than any RB on our team.

[Neusch23]

I think Morency will surprise you. Regardless of who is at RB, the bulk of this offense is coming from Brett's arm and our talented trio of WR's. The OL is probably more to blame than anything regarding running the ball.

THey are keeping people off of brett, it means they are doing their job...in our zone scheme, the RB has to hit the open hole....they just are not.

I don't think we can count on Morency to be there for us when we really need him. The guy can't seem to cut his toe nails with out hurting himself.

[paulpressey25]

I thought Brandon Jackson looked sharp yesterday....he was cutting and hitting the holes....a totally different back. He's gotten better in his limited time each of the last three weeks.

And Wynn showed big play ability.....I like both those guys.....

Before the season I would have said yes....now, I'm ok with what we have. Morency returning just adds another dimension.

[Neusch23]

I really believe that if we would have had anyone show anything yesterday, we would have used said player. I didn't see it. In fact, we ran more zero back sets than we did running plays.

Shows that we have little to no trust in our running game.

[paulpressey25]

I really believe that if we would have had anyone show anything yesterday, we would have used said player. I didn't see it. In fact, we ran more zero back sets than we did running plays..

I thought we had a couple good runs and should have kept it up a bit more than we did...at least at the goal line. And yesterday was against San Diego....they've got a tough front 7.

I'm really ok with our four guys for this year (Morency, Wynn, Jackson and Grant). Let's see what happens when we play a team like Detroit and we can get the running game in a groove versus teams with these run stuffing front lines....

[Neusch23]

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I thought we had a couple good runs and should have kept it up a bit more than we did...at least at the goal line. And yesterday was against San Diego....they've got a tough front 7.

I'm really ok with our four guys for this year (Morency, Wynn, Jackson and Grant). Let's see what happens when we play a team like Detroit and we can get the running game in a groove versus teams with these run stuffing front lines....

I agree, my problem is when we have games where our passing game isn't working...this could happen against any team....then where are we?

Is Dillon going to be savior? No. But he is more reliable than anyone we have, and that isn't saying much.

Note: This is my thoughts if he is able to pass a physical, etc.

[El Duderino]

About the only purpose i could see Dillon filling is as a short yardage back.Getting that tough yard or two on third/fourth down was a problem last year and very well could be this year.

Besides his age/wear and tear Neusch23,you aren't taking into account the system the Packers run.Dillon was more a power back even when he wasn't an old man,built for a Sherman like power gap or counter running system.Dillon now at an old age is about as bad a fit as it gets for a system designed for backs with quick feet and cutting ability.

Now it's fair to ask if guys like Jackson/Wynn/Grant will end up having the skills needed either,but McCarthy isn't going to scrap his running scheme three games in to fit a 33 year old back with no training camp under his belt,not knowing the system,ad 2600 carries on his body.

[Neusch23]

About the only purpose i could see Dillon filling is as a short yardage back.Getting that tough yard or two on third/fourth down was a problem last year and very well could be this year.

Besides his age/wear and tear Neusch23,you aren't taking into account the system the Packers run.Dillon was more a power back even when he wasn't an old man,built for a Sherman like power gap or counter running system.Dillon now at an old age is about as bad a fit as it gets for a system designed for backs with quick feet and cutting ability.

Now it's fair to ask if guys like Jackson/Wynn/Grant will end up having the skills needed either,but McCarthy isn't going to scrap his running scheme three games in to fit a 33 year old back with no training camp under his belt,not knowing the system,ad 2600 carries on his body.

Very good points, Dude. However, I counter the 2600 carries to the same arguement that some people liken KG or Kobe to being so much older than their actual age states since they had so much extra wear and tear on their bodies entering the league from HS. It is just BS.

TO me it comes down to can the guy do it, or not.

I don't believe we have to change our scheme at all. The zone blocking is supposed to make it easier for backs in the first place. They have to hit the hole and go. A lot of what dillon was known for.

I agree that he would be used similar to what the Bus was used for in Pit in his later years.

He gets those tough yards, helps move the chains, gets the TD's. Mix in a couple of games where he turns back the clock.

Again, many of you are posting like I believe he is going to be Corey Dillon 5 years ago. I don't.

But he can help us win. He is a vet that can still produce. He has played in big games. He knows how to win.

I believe you bring in a player like him when you are winning, to keep winning. If we were 1-2, I wouldn't even bring it up, but we are in position to make some noise. Lets try to get better.

His addition would only make us a better team.