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Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:01 pm**

Anyone else catch this quote from Berman? I think its probably the most flattering thing anyone has ever said about Brett.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nfl

Brett Favre versus The Evildoers
This one is obvious, but the winner -- of course -- is the great, indomitable Brett Favre. Chris Berman's comments on ESPN's Sunday morning pregame show summed it up best: "Rooting for Brett Favre is like rooting for America. It just is." Well said. Oh, and fans out there of the Vikings, Bears and Lions? Stop rooting against Brett Favre. Stop hating America.

-Favre no doubt has the opportunity to ride out into the sunset like Elway did. I know I'm getting ahead of myself, but if the Pack were to win another superbowl the fan appeal would be enormous. If it was over Manning or Brady (HoF futures), you can be sure Brett's "all time greatest" stock would reach a new level.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:09 pm**

I would expect this type of comment from John Madden.

And Packers=America's Team

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 9:18 pm**

I think we're light years away from New England and it'd be a drubbing if we met them in the Superbowl. But there would be nothing wrong with sending Brett after a game in the Superbowl or even the NFC Championship.

Though my guess is he'd come back if the Packers made it that far.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 10:08 pm**

Berman and Madden both have wetdreams daily about Brett Favre. Its not a surprise hed say that.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 10:25 pm**

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:Berman and Madden both have wetdreams daily about Brett Favre. Its not a surprise hed say that.

Especially since it's true.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 10:32 pm**

I'd rather people go overboard about Favre than see another story about morons like Chad Johnson or TO.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 10:40 pm**

Hope Favre plays another 2-3 years. As long as he has the arm strength, he can play the position, and as evidenced by that throw in the first quarter of the Vikings game (70 yards in the air), he still has the strength. He seems to be putting a lot more time into the offseason training as well.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 10:59 pm**

Living out here in San Diego among Charger fans everywhere AND watching games in sports bars where there are lots of displaced fans from every NFL city - one thing is common - respect for Brett.

Everyone loves his no bs attitude and enthusiasm and love for the game. Inwardly everyone is glad Brett is having a good year. As one Philly fan said to me - no one wanted to see Brett go out under a cloud.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 11:07 pm**

MickeyDavis wrote:I'd rather people go overboard about Favre than see another story about morons like Chad Johnson or TO.

Or Mcnabbs hypocritical ass.

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 11:30 pm**

Bill Simmons mentions the unmentionable....then pretends he never said it.....

"....Like everyone else, I'm delighted that Brett Favre hooked himself up to the Juvenation Machine. This is a great thing. With that said, the Packers fans can't be defiantly angry about the fact that people (like me) wrote off Favre heading into this season. He hasn't been good for a couple of years. These are the facts. For whatever reason, he's been good in 2007. Everyone's playing up the whole "he's not trying to do too much, he's just managing the game" angle, which sounds great on paper but doesn't happen to be true. He's not playing any differently. He's not. Stop saying this. He's just playing well. That could change this week; it might not change all season. We don't know.

Here's the interesting wrinkle: A relatively washed-up quarterback has a resurgence at the end of his career, and everyone happily decides, "He's managing the game now!" with no real evidence to support that statement (apparently you didn't see him winging the ball into traffic on the failed fourth down midway through the fourth quarter against San Diego). If Favre were a baseball player, we'd be making HGH jokes and wondering if he trained in the offseason with Barry Bonds. I mention this not to accuse Favre (he's as clean as a whistle), but to point out how much baseball has fallen as an American sport. It would be absolutely impossible for a baseball player to accomplish what Favre accomplished over these past three weeks without someone wondering, "Hold on, hold on, what's this guy taking?" Kind of a bummer....."

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/st ... ortCat=nfl

Posted: **Mon Oct 1, 2007 11:41 pm**

That's fine if people wrote off Favre before the year, there was evidence for that position. Just man up to it if you're wrong is all I ask.

If the guy has above average (doesn't even have to be dominant) weapons and decent pocket time, he has the arm strength and experience to pick defenses apart. Our WR core is good and the OL is good at pass blocking. Imagine if we can add a legit RB to the equation.

Posted: **Tue Oct 2, 2007 12:08 am**

"I don't know why he's better, but it's not _____." Well, put some thought into it, Bill. He's getting time to throw, he's back to the short-to-mid passing game that he's always excelled in and he's finally got a group of guys (along with a surprisingly mobile Bubba Franks... who would have predicted that?) to share the ball with.

It's just too bad Lynch didn't slip to us... I'd be a lot more optimistic about another Super Bowl appearance with anything resembling a running game. Maybe the guys we have will figure it out. It seems to me that it's more a problem of decisiveness than any physical limitations.

Posted: **Tue Oct 2, 2007 3:40 am**

emunney wrote:"I don't know why he's better, but it's not _____." Well, put some thought into it, Bill. He's getting time to throw, he's back to the short-to-mid passing game that he's always excelled in and he's finally got a group of guys (along with a surprisingly mobile Bubba Franks... who would have predicted that?) to share the ball with. .

I agree with this, but there is something else going on here in addition to what you mentioned.....This year he's lasering in those 5-18 yard passes right on the money whereas the last three years he's not had any accuracy (or at least consistency) on those. Something is going on here and I'm not saying it's HGH either but he seems more interested this season and more focused. Could it be that in years past he didn't put in the time off the field (conditioning and game prep) that we all assumed he was doing?

Posted: **Tue Oct 2, 2007 1:43 pm**

Funny you quoted that Simmons article. I read that yesterday. I wrote him:

Subject: Yea...another Favre comment (with nudes!!)

Just kidding on the nudes thing.

Look, no Packer fan alive has been more critical of him the last few years. I was pissed when he came back in '06 and even more irate when he came back in '07. I was (maybe still am) thinking that he was personally holding a professional sports franchise hostage.

But he's made me a believer. Check that. Mike McCarthy is making me a believer. Favre IS playing differently. Sure, he'll take one or two shots down the field; he threw a terrible bomb with his first pass in the Dome on Sunday that was picked off, thankfully called back (though he might have seen the flag for defensive holding).

The only difference is he'll throw that type of pass once, maybe twice a game, whereas in the past few years he'd hoist at least a half dozen or more a game and leave most Packer fans throwing **** at their TV.

But McCarthy truly has got him to buy into the whole short-pass, get it to the playmakers style offense. I can't begin to let you know how shocked I am at the transformation. It's got me wondering what the Packers might have accomplished had he ran this same style offense with a prime Ahman Green, Javon Walker and Bubba Franks when they were playing with the best O-Line in football.

Anyway, long story short, he's playing different. There isn't a doubt in any Packer fan's mind.

Posted: **Tue Oct 2, 2007 2:18 pm**

DrugBust wrote:Funny you quoted that Simmons article. I read that yesterday. I wrote him:

Subject: Yea...another Favre comment (with nudes!!)

Just kidding on the nudes thing.

Look, no Packer fan alive has been more critical of him the last few years. I was pissed when he came back in '06 and even more irate when he came back in '07. I was (maybe still am) thinking that he was personally holding a professional sports franchise hostage.

But he's made me a believer. Check that. Mike McCarthy is making me a believer. Favre IS playing differently. Sure, he'll take one or two shots down the field; he threw a terrible bomb with his first pass in the Dome on Sunday that was picked off, thankfully called back (though he might have seen the flag for defensive holding).

The only difference is he'll throw that type of pass once, maybe twice a game, whereas in the past few years he'd hoist at least a half dozen or more a game and leave most Packer fans throwing **** at their TV.

But McCarthy truly has got him to buy into the whole short-pass, get it to the playmakers style offense. I can't begin to let you know how shocked I am at the transformation. It's got me wondering what the Packers might have accomplished had he ran this same style offense with a prime Ahman Green, Javon Walker and Bubba Franks when they were playing with the best O-Line in football.

Anyway, long story short, he's playing different. There isn't a doubt in any Packer fan's mind.

I think you hit the nail on the head. This isn't rocket science. If Favre plays dumb we lose the turnover battle and most of the games. If Favre plays smart we win more of the close games. We lost a bunch of close games last season and the turnover battle as well. This season we're winning the turnover battle and not coincidently the close games. Yes, Favre still tossed up a terrible bomb (reminded me of the Philly playoff game) against the Vikings but that was it for the game. What I can't figure out is how he went from being terribly inaccurate to now being incredibly accurate. Somehow something must have just clicked in his head.