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Collins out at least a few weeks, Donald Lee get Extension

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Collins out at least a few weeks, Donald Lee get Extension 

Post#1 » by brewcityboii » Mon Nov 5, 2007 8:39 pm

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d ... nfirm=true

Green Bay Packers safety Nick Collins will miss several games with a knee injury after making an awkward tackle in Sunday's win over Kansas City.

"We all figured the worse the way he went down," Packers coach Mike McCarthy said Monday. "It's going to be at least a couple of weeks."


Well this is going to be tough on our Safties now with Bigby and Rause Starting.


The Green Bay Packers have signed tight-end Donald Lee to a four-year, $11.75 million extension that includes $3 million in guaranteed money, NFL Network's Adam Schefter is reporting.


I think it is very well deserved. The guy has really stepped up and became a good option for Brett.
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Post#2 » by trwi7 » Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:04 pm

Sparky was whining about Lee's extension. Basically saying didn't you want to go after Dallas Clark or Bo Scaife instead because they're better?!?!

Seriously most of the time he bitches just to bitch. The Packers could win the Super Bowl, the Bucks could win the Finals, the Brewers could win the World Series, the Badgers would win the BCS Championship and the Basketball Championship and he'd still find something to bitch about.
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Post#3 » by brewcityboii » Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:12 pm

trwi7 wrote:Sparky was whining about Lee's extension. Basically saying didn't you want to go after Dallas Clark or Bo Scaife instead because they're better?!?!

Seriously most of the time he bitches just to bitch. The Packers could win the Super Bowl, the Bucks could win the Finals, the Brewers could win the World Series, the Badgers would win the BCS Championship and the Basketball Championship and he'd still find something to bitch about.


Yeah the Human bobble head is just a whiney little girl...of all radio personalties he really annoys me the most. (cliff's pretty bad as well)
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Post#4 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:30 pm

Absolutely love the Lee extension. Fairly cheap extension for a guy making as many solid plays as he is. So we can all assume that Rodgers will take over the throne in 1-3 years...he is now going to have Driver, Jennings, Jones, and Lee to throw the ball to...that makes the transition pretty smooth. In that time I'm sure Grant will show us he is the man or we will bring in a ballyhooed RB for him to hand the ball to. Great work by TT yet again.
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Post#5 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:37 pm

Outstanding move to lock up Lee now while his game is still on the upswing. Like King mentioned in his article this morning, he could be looking at a spot on the Pro Bowl come February. Had Thompson waited until after the season he might have ended up costing a lot more.

Shame about Collins, though I'm intrigued as to what Rouse can provide.
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Post#6 » by brewcityboii » Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:44 pm

Shame about Collins, though I'm intrigued as to what Rouse can provide.


Should be intersting (though I am nervous about Rouse) But I think he has a lot of potential he was a key guy for a very stout VT D the last 2 years. I am just more worried about him not having all the calls down and maybe being a liability over the top. But time will only tell.
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Post#7 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Nov 5, 2007 9:55 pm

This week it may not be a huge issue. We've got a team that can't pass the ball around anyway. Maybe a bigger safety in the middle will be an asset. Rouse wasn't a massive hitter by any means at VT, but he was a good run defender.
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Post#8 » by rilamann » Mon Nov 5, 2007 10:02 pm

One of the trademarks of the Packers when Ron Wolf was the GM was that it seemed everytime a guy got hurt someone who you never realy heard of would come in and either be just as good or would even end up being an upgrade.

And the guy who got hurt would end up being a backup by the time he got healthy,or you would never seen him a Packer uniform agian. :lol:


Or if the Packers lost a key free agent a guy we already had who was a backup would end up being as good or even better.

Some of it has to do with the ''system'' as well though.If you have a good system and good coaching you are more liukely to see that type of thing happen.

Thats kind of how Levens got his chance to be the featured back in the late 90's,the only reason Levens got the oppritunity was because Edgar Bennet got hurt.

TT is kind of in the same mold as Wolf so maybe thats what we will see happen with this Collins situation.I have confidence with TT as a GM that there are guys/backups on our roster who can come in and play well when someone gets hurt.
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Post#9 » by DigitalFool » Mon Nov 5, 2007 11:46 pm

Hopefully Collins won't be hobbled the rest of the season, but it is good news he'll be back at least this season. At first look/reaction, it looked serious enough for IR.

I think the Lee deal is great, he is worth every penny with what he has been showing this season.
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Post#10 » by xTitan » Mon Nov 5, 2007 11:50 pm

Lee has been spectacular for the Packers this season and if he waited to the end of the year (assuming he stays healthy) he would have easily garnered a much bigger contract on the open market...what I really like about Lee is that he has turned out to be a much better blocker then I expected.

Losing anyone hurts, but Collins was far from having a great season....the KC game was probably one of his better games....he has dropped 5 potential interceptions this year alone, aweful hands. What they will miss with Collins is his ability to run down just about anyone who gets behind the defense...not an intelligent or instinctual player but 1 hell of an athlete.
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Post#11 » by bigrich88 » Tue Nov 6, 2007 1:07 am

collins is a big loss, but i think rouse will do fine.

and great job of signing lee to an extension.
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Post#12 » by El Duderino » Tue Nov 6, 2007 1:16 am

Lee has been great and has legit deep speed for a TE and his blocking has been solid enough.I was surprised how cheap he signed for, i have little doubt that he's have got more in free agency.


Losing anyone hurts, but Collins was far from having a great season....the KC game was probably one of his better games....he has dropped 5 potential interceptions this year alone, aweful hands. What they will miss with Collins is his ability to run down just about anyone who gets behind the defense...not an intelligent or instinctual player but 1 hell of an athlete.


Collins is so frustrating.I'd bet he'd beat anyone on the team in a 40-50 yard race except maybe Jennings would give him a good match.Plus he has toughness, Collins isn't a huge safety, but he's never been one to shy way from contact or run support.The guy just has bricks for hands and the instincts aren't close to matching his athletic gifts. He was playing better this year though even if he wasn't making many big plays. Collins wasn't busting coverages which lead to cheap TD's, he just been kinda like AJ Hawk, solid but not the playmaker i had hoped for this year.

I'll be fine with Rouse if he settles in and i rarely hear his name called. Big plays would be nice, but not screwing up and blowing coverages are all they really need from him while he fills in.


EDIT--We dodged a bullet on Corey Williams.Thankfully he's not going to miss time, he's really the only guy giving any pressure on the QB from the DT spot.
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Post#13 » by KeyRabbit » Tue Nov 6, 2007 1:46 am

DrugBust wrote:Rouse wasn't a massive hitter by any means at VT, but he was a good run defender.


Plus, he's faster than Collins, so he'll at least stay in the frame as AP is running downfield... :evil:

Lee=great use of the available cap to lock in a guy that Favre is clearly happy to have out there.
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Post#14 » by Fort Minor » Tue Nov 6, 2007 4:05 am

trwi7 wrote:Sparky was whining about Lee's extension. Basically saying didn't you want to go after Dallas Clark or Bo Scaife instead because they're better?!?!

Seriously most of the time he bitches just to bitch. The Packers could win the Super Bowl, the Bucks could win the Finals, the Brewers could win the World Series, the Badgers would win the BCS Championship and the Basketball Championship and he'd still find something to bitch about.


And yet at the same time, he was the only one who thought the Packers would do anything of note this year out of all the 1250 guys.

Whiny guy who's right vs. Non-whiny guys that were wrong...guess that's a lose-lose there.
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Post#15 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Nov 6, 2007 4:13 am

Corey Williams is the next guy that needs to get an extension. I know we have depth on the DL, but that's a GOOD thing. No one knows about Harrell yet. If he's a bust and we lose Corey, there goes the depth.

Facing Peterson twice a year for the next few years, we can't afford any losses on defense.
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Post#16 » by LUKE23 » Tue Nov 6, 2007 1:50 pm

This is actually a good week to have Rouse in there, really. Minny is a run-dominated team, and Rouse is much better at stopping the run than in coverage. It will also help to have a guy of Rouse's size to be able to lay hits on AD. If we can get Collins back by the Detroit game, that would be good. The next two weeks teams passing games don't scare me at all.
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Post#17 » by Ayt » Thu Nov 8, 2007 2:07 pm

DrugBust wrote:Outstanding move to lock up Lee now while his game is still on the upswing. Like King mentioned in his article this morning, he could be looking at a spot on the Pro Bowl come February. Had Thompson waited until after the season he might have ended up costing a lot more.

Shame about Collins, though I'm intrigued as to what Rouse can provide.


Its pretty incredible really. I talked up Lee quite a bit after his first year with us then he didn't do much last year (neither did Bubba, but we were forced to keep them in to block so much its understandable). How much better has the pass pro been, BTW. We are almost always only keeping 5 in with a RB in to chip then go out on a route. Anyway, I thought Lee could be a very good receiver after his first year, but I didn't expect him to be as good as he's been. He's a serious weapon with his athleticism and has been responsible for numerous big gains and first downs.

Another phenomenal under the radar pickup by TT (remember, we got Lee off waivers from Miami the on final cuts two years ago). Bigby, Bush, and Lee have all been huge waiver claims and there are several other waiver contributors on the roster.

As for Collins, his play has been solid but frustrating. Everyone knows about all the picks he's dropped, but as far as we can tell with the **** camera angles the NFL uses, he's been very good in coverage. I'm having a hard time coming up with many plays where a big play was made and Collins was to blame. He had support on Desmond Clark on his huge play, but that was Pops primary cover. I think overall Collins has been very good in coverage considering we haven't given up many long passes. He's also been very solid in run support, IMO.

Finally, here's Rouse chance to step in and show what he can do. If he can show some big play ability he may have a shot at taking Collins job in the future despite Collins being a solid player. We'll need him to be assignment sure this week in the running game because the Minny O-line does a great job of blocking the front 7. Many missteps and Peterson could be gone. He's had an incredible number of long runs. He has 5 40+ running plays; the next closest in the NFL only has 2. He also has 9 20+ yard runs, which ties him with Willie Parker, but Parker has none over 40; the next has 5).

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