McCarthy:Favre will be ready to go vs Oakland.

[rilamann]

http://www.jsonline.com/watch/?watch=1& ... 7&id=32489

[MadCityBucky]

The guy would find a way to play with both his legs broken, not a big surprise. Though I secretly kind of want to see Rodgers but I'm glad that Favre is playing keep that streak rolling.

[rilamann]

I went back and looked at when Favre got hit and it wasnt a hard hit at all and from what we are hearing now it sounds like Favre wasnt even realy hurt.

kind of makes you wonder about last nights game and if winning wasnt the #1 priority.

[ReasonablySober]

What could possibly be the #1 priority?

[rilamann]

What could possibly be the #1 priority?

Resting our banged up guys and not showing Dallas our best hand in November when chances are we will probably play them agian in January with a lot more at stake.

The Packers maybe figured it would be hard to win anyway with our D so banged up so maybe they felt like it would be better to use this game to feel Dallas out,get healthy and put all their eggs in the basket in January.

Just my opinion but the play calling and the decision to not play guys who could of played had it been a playoff game makes me wonder.If the Packers put a ton of stock into this game don't you think they would have approached it like a playoff game?

[eagle13]

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Resting our banged up guys and not showing Dallas our best hand in November when chances are we will probably play them agian in January with a lot more at stake.

The Packers maybe figured it would be hard to win anyway with our D so banged up so maybe they felt like it would be better to use this game to feel Dallas out,get healthy and put all their eggs in the basket in January.

Just my opinion but the play calling and the decision to not play guys who could of played had it been a playoff game makes me wonder.If the Packers put a ton of stock into this game don't you think they would have approached it like a playoff game?

It did seem strange to me that we held guys back that could have played if it were playoffs. For in a way it was playoffs - for #1 seed and home field and that DOES matter! Guess they played it safe like going for FG with 4th & 1 instead of going for it. Still with 10 days of rest ad cream puff Raiders next it seems M3 could have put more chance into it?

[LUKE23]

I think it's pretty obvious MM and TT are looking at the long haul and feel confident in their chances of beating Dallas in Dallas (which I am more than confident in as a Packer fan). No point in playing banged up players that won't be 100% when it could set them back even further for what is the ultimate goal, being successful in the playoffs and getting as far as you can.

Packers can win in Dallas at full strength.

[bucks59]

I was thinking this too, but then why try some trick plays? Why do the onside kick? Why not save that stuff?

[LUKE23]

I was thinking this too, but then why try some trick plays? Why do the onside kick? Why not save that stuff?

I couldn't agree more. MM temporarily shoved his head up his ass yesterday, along with Favre. Moment got the best of both. Can't let it happen again and need to learn from it.

This is a ball control passing and fake the pass draw running team. It works. Few teams have stopped it. Keep doing it.

[jligon]

I went back and looked at when Favre got hit and it wasnt a hard hit at all and from what we are hearing now it sounds like Favre wasnt even realy hurt.

kind of makes you wonder about last nights game and if winning wasnt the #1 priority.

I know there are those that'll argue that home field advantage is too important to not bring your best in an attempt to win and anyone that thinks otherwise is simply looking for excuses for us losing...


...but I thought a week before this game that I'd be surprised if we showed the Cowboys all of our cards in this game, knowing we may see them again in a month and a half. But we'll never know for sure. Was Woodson healthy enough to go? Was Favre really hurt bad enough to have to sit? Perhaps. But I like the idea that there's going to be doubt in the minds of Dallas if we do indeed have a rematch. And I can almost guarantee that we'll see a different offensive scheme from us in that game too.

Call it all psychological bullsh*t if you want but I think this type of thing can be a difference maker come playoff time. What would a 42 to 17 drubbing, with Favre at the helm the entire night, done for our hopes come rematch time? By yanking Favre out of there, although it appears his removal was probably necessary, also kept that depressing scenario from being a possibility, although it looked possible at the time.

[jligon]

I was thinking this too, but then why try some trick plays? Why do the onside kick? Why not save that stuff?

I don't want to see much of that trick crap in a playoff game. Show it now so they have to waste time preparing for it.

[Ayt]

You guys are going out on a very thin limb thinking we "didn't want to show our hand" or something like that.

[jligon]

You guys are going out on a very thin limb thinking we "didn't want to show our hand" or something like that.

I was saying it for a week before the game so I'm not just looking for excuses for our loss. Watching MM all year, the one thing I can say about him is he's unpredictable. Is it beyond him to throw a weird unexpected game plan out there in a game that decides home field for the NFC? Obviously not. So why is the idea of holding back certain plays, while throwing out other bizarre plays (which we all witnessed) a stretch?

Sure, he was still trying to win yesterday but yesterday was not the Super Bowl. Even if we don't have a better game plan for the NFC Championship game (if it comes about) we have the advantage of not knowing for sure that Dallas is far better than us (although it looked like it at times last night).

[rilamann]

You guys are going out on a very thin limb thinking we "didn't want to show our hand" or something like that.

I'd agree with you but the only thing that makes me think this theory might be legit is the fact we where so banged up,had the Packers been healthy I think winning would have been the #1 priority.

But MM and his staff probably realized that even if they went with thier best gameplan vs Dallas and played to win & played banged up guys it would be a tough game to win anyway.

So their thinking might have been lets use this game to feel Dallas out and rest our banged up guys.Then come back and January with a healthy team and our best gameplan vs Dallas.

Also it seemed like the few times the Packers did play their usual game the plays worked vs Dallas,but its like they did just to test it.

For example on the first drive the short passing attack worked but then the Packers went away from it and Favre was thwoing deep on every play.That made no sense at all if you are trying to win the game.

Also a 4 man rush and zone on denfese almost the enite game? WTF was that?

When the Packers did use some blitzes a couple times they worked well.Take that drive when Dallas completed that 3rd & 19.on 1st and 2nd down the Packers pressured Romo and the secondary wasnt in the zone and we got Dallas in that 3rd & 19.Then on 3rd down they went back to the 4 man rush and zone and Dallas got the big play.

I swear it looked the Packers where just testing out things that would work and wouldnt work vs Dallas.

Im not saying the Packers went into the game and said ''lets lose this one'' but the Packers approach and play calling didn't make it seem like winning was the #1 priority.

[DMBucks22]

Well go figure that Favre will be ready for the Raiders. I knew he would be ready but would of been mad if for some reason he couldnt play, since Im going.

[Ayt]

Thin limb, fellas.

[DH34Phan]

Thin limb, fellas.

Agreed. There is no way we didn't do everything we could to win the game...that is a really stupid idea.

I also think McCarthy called a great game, that onside kick should have worked. We are looking at a different game if that onsider doesn't get touched by us.

But, like everyone else has said, I feel good about our chances if we have to go back to Dallas in the playoffs.

[jligon]

Agreed. There is no way we didn't do everything we could to win the game...that is a really stupid idea.

If it's the Super Bowl, or even the NFC Championship, I'd bet that Woodson goes, Farve puts up more of a fight being pulled for the balance of the game and you'd have seen quite a different offensive scheme from us in the first half. If Woodson sitting, Rodgers playing 2-1/2 quarters and Farve continually throwing the ball deep into coverage qualifies as "doing everything we could to win the game," we've got very different ideas of the term everything.

[DH34Phan]

you'd have seen quite a different offensive scheme from us in the first half.

So in your opinion, we played offense thinking it wouldn't work? I really don't understand that concept.

If Woodson sitting, Rodgers playing 2-1/2 quarters and Farve continually throwing the ball deep into coverage qualifies as "doing everything we could to win the game," we've got very different ideas of the term everything.

Just because Woodson is out doesn't mean you don't try to win the game. YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME. hahaha.

It wasn't gameplan for Aaron Rodgers to play, and Favre was playing like it was 2005. That is all known. Still doesn't make me believe they weren't trying to win the game.

[jligon]

Where are you getting the idea that anyone said

"we played offense thinking it wouldn't work"
"they weren't trying to win the game"

If anyone said that I'd also think it's stupid and laughable but no one said it over even suggested anything close.