After watching this crap of a game we would be better off playing in Dallas during the playoffs. It will be between 50-60 degress... The Packers can run their offense without worry due to weather conditions and we wont see a game like today.
We will be fine, I want to play Dallas again...
This will happen of corse if we GB and Dallas win their games...
Playing in Dallas is better for the Packers!
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I'm down for still being optimistic after that craptastic performance today but let's not kid ourselves here- there is no way that we are better off playing the Cowboys in Dallas rather than Green Bay.
I still think we can beat them there though. If we "Are what we think we are!!", its only right that be play them in Dallas again.
And win.
I still think we can beat them there though. If we "Are what we think we are!!", its only right that be play them in Dallas again.
And win.
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Flames24Rulz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Did you watch today's game?
Yes, I watched today's game and the only reason you guys lost was because of the wind. The Packers have a better passing game than run game and when it is that windy out you need to establish a good run game and the Packers failed to do that. Grant had the one great run but that's about all he did good. Orton didn't play as good as they said he did it's just our defense made plays.
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SportsWorld wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yes, I watched today's game and the only reason you guys lost was because of the wind. The Packers have a better passing game than run game and when it is that windy out you need to establish a good run game and the Packers failed to do that. Grant had the one great run but that's about all he did good. Orton didn't play as good as they said he did it's just our defense made plays.
Exactly. But wind usually follows cold, so I think we'd have a better chance of winning at Dallas anyway.
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I'd still rather have the road to the Super Bowl come through Green Bay. Today's game had some crazy ass conditions weather wise and the Bears handled it a hell of a lot better than the Packers, but Lambeau Field, in the cold, in the snow, is still a pretty un-fun place to play in January; Green Bay always gets the advantage at home in those conditions. Frozen Tundra!!
That said, having to now play in Dallas, I think we can still make it a game. Get a few key guys back and I think it's still a close ball game. The fact everyone isn't talking about, is the fact that both of these teams have to win their Divisional playoff games before they meet again. Anything can happen in those games so as far as I'm concerned, everything is up in the air until these games are actually played.
That said, having to now play in Dallas, I think we can still make it a game. Get a few key guys back and I think it's still a close ball game. The fact everyone isn't talking about, is the fact that both of these teams have to win their Divisional playoff games before they meet again. Anything can happen in those games so as far as I'm concerned, everything is up in the air until these games are actually played.
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Fandom wrote:I'd still rather have the road to the Super Bowl come through Green Bay. Today's game had some crazy ass conditions weather wise and the Bears handled it a hell of a lot better than the Packers, but Lambeau Field, in the cold, in the snow, is still a pretty un-fun place to play in January; Green Bay always gets the advantage at home in those conditions. Frozen Tundra!!
That said, having to now play in Dallas, I think we can still make it a game. Get a few key guys back and I think it's still a close ball game. The fact everyone isn't talking about, is the fact that both of these teams have to win their Divisional playoff games before they meet again. Anything can happen in those games so as far as I'm concerned, everything is up in the air until these games are actually played.
You'd think so, but based on Favre's comments before the game, and what some of the players were saying after, there's NO doubt that they psyched themselves in this game because of the weather. I'm not saying that's why they lost the game, but they were definitely thinking about it, wihch is bad. There aren't many guys on this team who have played a meaningful game in those conditions yet, so it's hard to know how they'd perform in it...
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Both Green Bay and Dallas are more passing teams that run off the pass, so i think both would function better offensively in nice weather condtions.
One thing though that would have concerned me if say we had played Dallas in Green Bay and the weather/field was very rough, the offensive line of the Cowboys compared to the Packers. Dallas has a very big and mauling type of line that might excell better on a rough field while our line is smaller and Grant relies on cut back lanes.
The defensive line has started to show cracks and leaks with the injuries. With Pickett also out today there was no real good NT type of guy to hold his ground while getting a double team, we miss Jolly and even Cole somewhat. Our running game is more a find a cut back crease here and there for big plays than a grind it out for first downs type.
I honestly like our chances as much in Dallas than Green Bay if the weather was very poor.
One thing though that would have concerned me if say we had played Dallas in Green Bay and the weather/field was very rough, the offensive line of the Cowboys compared to the Packers. Dallas has a very big and mauling type of line that might excell better on a rough field while our line is smaller and Grant relies on cut back lanes.
The defensive line has started to show cracks and leaks with the injuries. With Pickett also out today there was no real good NT type of guy to hold his ground while getting a double team, we miss Jolly and even Cole somewhat. Our running game is more a find a cut back crease here and there for big plays than a grind it out for first downs type.
I honestly like our chances as much in Dallas than Green Bay if the weather was very poor.
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El Duderino wrote:I honestly like our chances as much in Dallas than Green Bay if the weather was very poor.
You are old enough to remember that January 1982 AFC championship game with the Bengals against the Chargers. That game was played in Cincy on a day like today. And Dan Fouts and the Chargers precision passing game just went down....big time. The cold and the wind prevented Joiner, Winslow, etc. from doing anything.
After what I saw today, it just reinforced that the Packers only can do well when that 5 WR shotgun/spread formation is clicking......and if we get hung at Lambeau in really bad weather against a team with a big O and D line, we will struggle.
I'm not sure we are good enough to beat Dallas this year, but unfortunately we might indeed be better off playing down there.....use our speed to our advantage on that turf.....
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Plus, there is the Favre factor
In his younger days, Brett thrived in poor weather or cold situations. The last few years he seems to struggle in these cold weather days, he's not a young vibrant guy anymore. Just looking at his face on the sidelines today, he seemed in more misery than anyone else out there.
I remember in the past when Favre was so great in the cold, he'd say he hated the weather, but he was used to it and was able to gets past it for three hours and play well. Now that he's 38, that may no longer be the case. He's struggled the last 3-4 times in the very cold weather and judging by his body language/face today, i really question if the days are over of Brett being such a good cold weather QB.
In his younger days, Brett thrived in poor weather or cold situations. The last few years he seems to struggle in these cold weather days, he's not a young vibrant guy anymore. Just looking at his face on the sidelines today, he seemed in more misery than anyone else out there.
I remember in the past when Favre was so great in the cold, he'd say he hated the weather, but he was used to it and was able to gets past it for three hours and play well. Now that he's 38, that may no longer be the case. He's struggled the last 3-4 times in the very cold weather and judging by his body language/face today, i really question if the days are over of Brett being such a good cold weather QB.
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Ryan5UW wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
You'd think so, but based on Favre's comments before the game, and what some of the players were saying after, there's NO doubt that they psyched themselves in this game because of the weather. I'm not saying that's why they lost the game, but they were definitely thinking about it, wihch is bad. There aren't many guys on this team who have played a meaningful game in those conditions yet, so it's hard to know how they'd perform in it...
You hit it right on the head. This is EXACTLY why the Packers lost. Because they mentally gave up: "Oh, it's windy and cold - we can't play our game anymore." Then they started huddling around trying to stay warm. In all my years, I've never seen anything like that - a Green Bay team cowering to the weather. In contrast, the Bears were laughing, joking, and enjoying themselves. I was in shock in response to what I saw today.
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El Duderino wrote:Plus, there is the Favre factor
In his younger days, Brett thrived in poor weather or cold situations. The last few years he seems to struggle in these cold weather days, he's not a young vibrant guy anymore. Just looking at his face on the sidelines today, he seemed in more misery than anyone else out there.
I remember in the past when Favre was so great in the cold, he'd say he hated the weather, but he was used to it and was able to gets past it for three hours and play well. Now that he's 38, that may no longer be the case. He's struggled the last 3-4 times in the very cold weather and judging by his body language/face today, i really question if the days are over of Brett being such a good cold weather QB.
I don't think Favre handles immediate discomfort as well anymore (but he'll still play through pain). It takes a certain hunger to bust through that, and I think Favre, in his mind, has already accomplished everything he's needed to, so he doesn't feel the urgency to mentally will himself through uncomfortable situations.
These deficiencies manifest themselves when conditions are less than ideal. When he gets knocked around, when the weather is really bad, and when he's behind and needs to be patient.
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We don't have that power running game like we used to......even Edgar Bennett was a mudder....and we had some powerful offensive lines in those Super Bowl years and in the Ahman Green years.....we just don't have that to balance things out.
And while Grant has that cutback and second gear, but it's just not something that you can count on more than once in a game.....
We've become a wuss warm weather team.....maybe better suited to turf to take advantage of our speed.
And while Grant has that cutback and second gear, but it's just not something that you can count on more than once in a game.....
We've become a wuss warm weather team.....maybe better suited to turf to take advantage of our speed.
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I just heard them say on the NFL Network "So it's apparent that if the Packers want to make it to the Super Bowl they will have to win in Dallas."
Now forgive me for being naive but are they just skipping the first two rounds of the playoffs this year? I haven't been very impressed with any of the top teams late in the season and wouldn't at all be surprised if we saw some upsets in the post season. But apparently the Green Bay at Dallas matchup is already set.
Now forgive me for being naive but are they just skipping the first two rounds of the playoffs this year? I haven't been very impressed with any of the top teams late in the season and wouldn't at all be surprised if we saw some upsets in the post season. But apparently the Green Bay at Dallas matchup is already set.