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Post#1 » by Buck You » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:21 am

Two executives in personnel for other National Football League teams said the Packers stand a fighting chance with Rodgers.

The NFC personnel man said he'd take Rodgers over other young quarterbacks such as Cleveland's Derek Anderson, San Francisco's Alex Smith, Arizona's Matt Leinart, Minnesota's Tarvaris Jackson, Buffalo's Trent Edwards and J.P. Losman, the New York Jets' Kellen Clemens, Miami's John Beck and Chicago's Rex Grossman.



http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=724776


Always good when you read something like that. Is it possible we will still have the best qb in the NFC North even without the legend?
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Post#2 » by xTitan » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:23 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:
Two executives in personnel for other National Football League teams said the Packers stand a fighting chance with Rodgers.

The NFC personnel man said he'd take Rodgers over other young quarterbacks such as Cleveland's Derek Anderson, San Francisco's Alex Smith, Arizona's Matt Leinart, Minnesota's Tarvaris Jackson, Buffalo's Trent Edwards and J.P. Losman, the New York Jets' Kellen Clemens, Miami's John Beck and Chicago's Rex Grossman.



http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=724776


Always good when you read something like that. Is it possible we will still have the best qb in the NFC North even without the legend?


I heard Ditka on WSSP today and he said A-Rodj might very well be the best in the North, although Kitna has played well at times.
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Post#3 » by Bucks_Revenge » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:27 am

all he has to do is get the ball to any of the fab 5 and they will make him look great...
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Post#4 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:44 am

ReddBogutCharlieV wrote:
Two executives in personnel for other National Football League teams said the Packers stand a fighting chance with Rodgers.

The NFC personnel man said he'd take Rodgers over other young quarterbacks such as Cleveland's Derek Anderson, San Francisco's Alex Smith, Arizona's Matt Leinart, Minnesota's Tarvaris Jackson, Buffalo's Trent Edwards and J.P. Losman, the New York Jets' Kellen Clemens, Miami's John Beck and Chicago's Rex Grossman.



http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=724776


Always good when you read something like that. Is it possible we will still have the best qb in the NFC North even without the legend?


Thats an accomplishment?
Alex Smith? Is he their starting QB anymore now?
Leinart? Yeah he has the resume (in college) but in the NFL he hasnt done crap and was actually benched for the 2 minute offense. Has that ever happened before?

The only ones on that list that may be an accomplishment is Anderson (though I still think hes overrated), The others are all just unproven and/or have shown they suck already.
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Post#5 » by ReddManBogieMan » Thu Mar 6, 2008 9:45 am

I think that he can be comparable to Eli and Romo much more than a Brett Favre. I think he looked very similar to the way Eli played in the playoffs, and he played pretty close to Romo in that Week 12 game against the Cowgirls. He was pretty darn good in the preseason if I recall, something like 80% passing. With the weapons we got he should be able to put up 25-30 TD's next year.
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Post#6 » by ReddManBogieMan » Thu Mar 6, 2008 9:48 am

He needs to develop a go-to guy like Favre had with Driver. It probably will be Driver since he's thrown to him in practice for an extra year more than to Greg Jennings, but Greg may take over as the go-to guy in the near future.
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Post#7 » by ReddManBogieMan » Thu Mar 6, 2008 9:50 am

I think with all the little things that Rodgers has learned from watching the way Favre and McCarthy worked well together he is head and shoulders above those bad QBs listed in the JS article. Time will tell though.
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Post#8 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Thu Mar 6, 2008 10:35 am

ReddManBogieMan wrote:I think that he can be comparable to Eli and Romo much more than a Brett Favre. I think he looked very similar to the way Eli played in the playoffs, and he played pretty close to Romo in that Week 12 game against the Cowgirls. He was pretty darn good in the preseason if I recall, something like 80% passing. With the weapons we got he should be able to put up 25-30 TD's next year.


Theres so many things wrong with that its hard to pick where to begin.
First im going to go with, This is about how he compares to young QBs. I dont see how Favre has anything to do with that. Secondly, Aaron Rodgers hasnt even started one game and youre putting him up with those two? Third, putting Eli up next to Romo is ridiculous. Yes you can say Romo hasnt won in the playoffs and that Eli has. But giving Eli credit for game managing (ie. dont try to win it, just dont **** up) and saying thats the same as a guy that wins you games is stupid. If you want to discuss Elis great play where he escaped all those lineman as an example of winning the game for a team, you should also remember the plays right before where he was an inch or two away from having a stupid pass picked off.

I can understand being hopeful and excited, but maybe you should wait until Rodgers at least starts in the NFL for a season at least before you put him with a guy who threw for over 4200 yards and 36 td passes last year.
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Post#9 » by skones » Thu Mar 6, 2008 10:52 am

The beauty of our offense is that we go underneath, underneath, underneath, until we spread the defense out opening it up for a big run or a long ball. As long as Rodgers keeps his composure in the pocket we should be in good shape.

Problem is, for a young guy playing with the looming shadow of an all-time great, it's easier said than done on a consistent basis.
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Post#10 » by ReasonablySober » Thu Mar 6, 2008 1:59 pm

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Theres so many things wrong with that its hard to pick where to begin.
First im going to go with, This is about how he compares to young QBs. I dont see how Favre has anything to do with that. Secondly, Aaron Rodgers hasnt even started one game and youre putting him up with those two? Third, putting Eli up next to Romo is ridiculous. Yes you can say Romo hasnt won in the playoffs and that Eli has. But giving Eli credit for game managing (ie. dont try to win it, just dont **** up) and saying thats the same as a guy that wins you games is stupid. If you want to discuss Elis great play where he escaped all those lineman as an example of winning the game for a team, you should also remember the plays right before where he was an inch or two away from having a stupid pass picked off.

I can understand being hopeful and excited, but maybe you should wait until Rodgers at least starts in the NFL for a season at least before you put him with a guy who threw for over 4200 yards and 36 td passes last year.


Yes, Eli's actually accomplished something when it mattered.

Anyway, I don't think it's going to be hard for Rodgers to have a nice level of success this season. He's not going to go out and fling the ball all over the field; all he has to do is get it to the WRs and TEs and let them make plays.
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Post#11 » by Johnny Newman » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:13 pm

Bucks_Revenge wrote:all he has to do is get the ball to any of the fab 5 and they will make him look great...
Yup long as he stick with the short slant passes all day we win. If he tries to force stuff then throws into double or triple coverage then forget it.
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Post#12 » by WRau1 » Thu Mar 6, 2008 3:16 pm

It's going to be nice to see our QB be able to take off and run for a first when a play breaks down, rather then squeezing it into triple coverage.
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Post#13 » by MickeyDavis » Thu Mar 6, 2008 4:26 pm

I'll wait until he actually plays a few games before deciding which QB he resembles.
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Post#14 » by mnstinks » Thu Mar 6, 2008 6:57 pm

will the qb sneak actually be a part of the offense on inches to go now?
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Post#15 » by mnstinks » Thu Mar 6, 2008 7:03 pm

Tavarius Jackson born 4-21-83
Aaron Rodgers born 12-2-83

No more excuses for Vikings fans about a young QB
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Post#16 » by NeedsMoreCheese » Thu Mar 6, 2008 11:53 pm

mnstinks wrote:Tavarius Jackson born 4-21-83
Aaron Rodgers born 12-2-83

No more excuses for Vikings fans about a young QB


Im not sure what you mean by that. But I'd say they still have a legitimate excuse in the sense that hes still sort of a project. Tavaris was the final pick in the second round a couple years ago. He was thrown in there toward the end of his rookie year with complete crap to work with. Meanwhile Rodgers was a guy who was highly touted and going into the draft was thought to be almost equal to the guy that went #1 that year. Plus it doesnt hurt to be behind a guy thats a top 10 qb to ever play, and learn for 3 years.
Using age as a determining factor only works when they have very similar abilities or potential.

All that said, Tavaris has a pretty good line, a high profile RB (not to mention a more than adequate backup RB) and has been in the system a few years now. So he really needs to show at least something this year I'd assume if hes going to keep that spot.
(Who do they even have as backup anyways? Is it still Bollinger? I think they should bring in Culpepper. Just for amusement more than anything else :lol: )
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Post#17 » by Mags FTW » Fri Mar 7, 2008 5:33 am

I'm really looking forward to the Rodgers era. Looking to see if fans call his INTs "horrible throws" or "receivers running the wrong route". Want to see if the receivers are pumped to prove that they are good receivers who helped Favre look good, or if it was just Favre making them look better than they actually were the whole time.

Lots of questions will be answered.
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Post#18 » by Bucks_Revenge » Fri Mar 7, 2008 5:55 am

I remember when Jennings was drafted and in the pre-season Rodgers said he looked forward to be throwing the ball to Jennings for years to come.
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Post#19 » by jakecronus8 » Fri Mar 7, 2008 2:37 pm

I was looking at teams with young Qbs that will probably be starting for them and there are probably only a handful of guys I would take over Rodgers. Derek Anderson for his prototype size and the #s he's already put up, Vince Young for his leadership and upside, JaMarcus Russell for his cannon arm, and maybe Cutler for intangibles. Right now there is not a lot of great young talent at QB in the league waiting in the wings to take over. Ability wise Aaron is good enough, its just the health thing that really bothers me.
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Post#20 » by ReddManBogieMan » Sun Mar 9, 2008 12:57 am

Kohl Is A Mome wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Theres so many things wrong with that its hard to pick where to begin.
First im going to go with, This is about how he compares to young QBs. I dont see how Favre has anything to do with that. Secondly, Aaron Rodgers hasnt even started one game and youre putting him up with those two? Third, putting Eli up next to Romo is ridiculous. Yes you can say Romo hasnt won in the playoffs and that Eli has. But giving Eli credit for game managing (ie. dont try to win it, just dont **** up) and saying thats the same as a guy that wins you games is stupid. If you want to discuss Elis great play where he escaped all those lineman as an example of winning the game for a team, you should also remember the plays right before where he was an inch or two away from having a stupid pass picked off.

I can understand being hopeful and excited, but maybe you should wait until Rodgers at least starts in the NFL for a season at least before you put him with a guy who threw for over 4200 yards and 36 td passes last year.


I included Favre because he is obviously the QB that everyone is most familiar with and the one who he is going to be compared with. I was referring younger players and their styles of play with Romo and Eli. It's not like I said he is as good as Brady or Peyton. BTW I agree that Romo is much better than Eli but he just came to mind with the way he played at the end of the season and into the playoffs. With what I saw in the preseason and in the week 12 game with Dallas and am pretty confident that Rodgers will be a very good QB. BTW Romo's got some guys named Terrell Owens and Jason Witten to throw the ball to, ever think about adding that in your rant on my statement.
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