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Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:00 pm
by Mags FTW
MONDAY, July 14, 2008, 2:53 p.m.
By Don Walker
Favre not interested in back up duty

In an interview to be aired tonight at 9 p.m. on Fox News Network, Green Bay Packers quarterback Brett Favre told an interviewer that he will not return to Green Bay as a backup quarterback to Aaron Rodgers, and that he doesn't want to be traded.

Asked by interviewer Greta Van Susteren about his future, Favre said he wanted to return to professional football, but said he didn't know where.

Favre told Van Susteren, a Wisconsin native and host of "On the Record with Greta Van Susteren," that he only wanted the Packers to release him, and was never committed to retiring.

The interview was conducted in the Mississippi office of James (Bus) Cook, who is Favre's agent. Fox News Network did not provide a complete transcript, but network representatives released two quotes from Favre and what they described as bullet points or highlights of the interview.

Here are two quotes that were attributed to Favre and which were released by Fox News Network representatives.

"I am guilty of retiring early and there is a reason for that. And the major issue is 'Why did he retire?' and 'He asked for a release because he doesn't want to play in Green Bay.' That's not true. And I hope people are hearing this and saying 'OK, that clears it up'."

Here is the second quote attributed to Favre: "Them moving on does not bother me. It doesn't. I totally understand that. By me retiring March 3rd I knew that could possibly happen. All I was saying is you know I'm thinking about playing again. The 'itch' has been used. That is the word that has been used if you want to say itch, or the fire is coming back, or whatever. If I'm going to play it's going to be 100% commitment.... And so if you move on, you tell me one thing, don't come back and tell the public,... just say it. 'You know, we've moved on and we'll work with Brett on whatever it is.' Don't make up a lot of stuff or give half of the truth."

According to Fox representatives, Favre said he did not want to be traded because that would cede control to the Packers.

Last week, Favre and Cook sent a letter to the Packers asking that he be released. Over the weekend, General Manager Ted Thompson said the team would gladly accept Favre back if he applied for reinstatement. Thompson did not say, however, whether the team would bring Favre back as the starter.

We'll post more developments as they become available.

Don't know if you want to merge this MD and PP. I thought it deserves it's own topic because it's the first time he spoke for himself.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:14 pm
by humanrefutation
Damn you, Mags. I totally saw this on ESPN News like 1/2 an hour ago and couldn't get to a computer in time to beat you to posting it.

Anyways...this sounds like a bunch of BS on Favre's part. He understands that we want to move on but doesn't realize that by coming back, regardless of what team that's for, he prevents us from doing so smoothly.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:35 pm
by Enrique
It's obvious he chose Greta Van Susteran cuz he knows she's not going to ask him any hard questions. At least he's finally being a man and talking for himself for once instead of having his brother and mommy talk for him.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:35 pm
by Neusch23
humanrefutation wrote:Damn you, Mags. I totally saw this on ESPN News like 1/2 an hour ago and couldn't get to a computer in time to beat you to posting it.

Anyways...this sounds like a bunch of BS on Favre's part.He understands that we want to move on but doesn't realize that by coming back, regardless of what team that's for, he prevents us from doing so smoothly.



And this is his problem how? If he wants to play, and the Packers own his rights, what is he to do? Ultimately, he could be traded, and have no say in it other than to not show, which, why then would a team trade for him? On the other hand, if they release him he can go where ever, if they have really moved on.

My bet is that the Packers want to move on, but know they are a better team in the short run with Brett, and since they gave him the crazy 10 year contract, when they knew he would be 42 by the time it was up, that is their problem. Wolf gave him that deal, BTW, so this isn't a sherman mess.

I am looking forward to the interview, and I still say he will be a Packer for next year, as the starter.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:36 pm
by Mags FTW
Brett Favre
by Greta Van Susteren

I just interviewed Brett Favre in Mississippi….he is, as you know, entangled in a dispute with the Green Bay Packer General Manager. Brett understands the GM decision..and he accepts it..(And yes he loves the Packer fans)…but now - since the Packer GM made plain he does not want him - he wants to be released by the Packers so that he can see if any other team wants him. I am rushing to the airport but you will see the interview tonight…

http://gretawire.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/brett1.jpg

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:47 pm
by MetroDrugUnit
This is like a bad dream I can't wake up from.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 8:59 pm
by Kerb Hohl
It looks as though the very man who made this franchise what it is will now be the one to destroy it.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:04 pm
by randy84
CharlosVllnueva wrote:It looks as though the very man who made this franchise what it is will now be the one to destroy it.


Give me a break. How is he going to destroy it?

The solution is simple, let Favre come back and QB for the Packers. Rodgers hasn't even gone through a training camp as a starter, so to say that the franchise has moved on is a bunch of bull.

Plus we have no idea how good or bad Rodgers is going to be. Do you really think someone is going to give him a big contract in the offseason based on his zero starts and 1 touchdown pass?

People are really overthinking this whole situation.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:04 pm
by Mags FTW
Don Beebe on 540 in a minute...

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:11 pm
by Kerb Hohl
randy84 wrote:
CharlosVllnueva wrote:It looks as though the very man who made this franchise what it is will now be the one to destroy it.


Give me a break. How is he going to destroy it?

The solution is simple, let Favre come back and QB for the Packers. Rodgers hasn't even gone through a training camp as a starter, so to say that the franchise has moved on is a bunch of bull.

Plus we have no idea how good or bad Rodgers is going to be. Do you really think someone is going to give him a big contract in the offseason based on his zero starts and 1 touchdown pass?

People are really overthinking this whole situation.


Quite simple.

A. Favre comes back and starts. Unless we win the super bowl when he is back or Brian Brohm becomes amazing, we revert to the Chicago Bears trying to find a quarterback while the rest of our team is in its prime after Favre leaves.

B. Favre decides to go back into retirement because he is backed into a corner. Unless Rodgers is amazing right away(which becomes less likely with the amount of pressure on him), the players on the team and all of the fans will be in a divide about what could have been.

C. We let Favre go somewhere else. This will create a divide too no matter how he plays. If he plays well, even if Rodgers does also it becomes a failure. The only way this plan works is if Favre falls miserably flat on his face somewhere.

Any way you slice it, the current team is going to cause be divided.

Not to mention, we wasted a 1st round pick and 20 million on a backup QB who now feels we ruined his career if Favre returns.

We also wasted an opportunity to trade that player when his value was somewhat high. I don't think we would get much for Rodgers at this point and the dilemma is similar because most teams that might want him reside in our division or conference.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:14 pm
by ReasonablySober
This is what bugs me most:

According to Fox representatives, Favre said he did not want to be traded because that would cede control to the Packers.


Favre is under contract. He is the property of the Green Bay Packers. Favre is NOT a free agent. He should have ZERO control over this situation.

Now, if the Packers liked, I'm sure Thompson could give Favre the opportunity to seek a trade and if he comes back with an AFC team I'm sure Ted would be happy to move him.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:17 pm
by InsideOut
I don't get it. The Packers have given him a boat load of money. They have put a 13-3 team around him. They have let him play his retirement games for 5 years. They said they wanted him back this season. They agreed to take him back once he changed his mind. What part of this shows they don't want him? I guess if they don't let him do whatever he wants and when he wants to do it that shows they don't want him. Just another athlete that doesn't live in the real world and thinks everyone should kiss their butt. That also wasn't an interview. It was a statement from Favre. As if she was going to ask a tough question.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:19 pm
by Mags FTW
DrugBust wrote:Now, if the Packers liked, I'm sure Thompson could give Favre the opportunity to seek a trade and if he comes back with an AFC team I'm sure Ted would be happy to move him.

They said he can give them a list of teams he wants to be traded to.
Van Susteren, who is from Appleton, Wis., and is a Packers shareholder, said Favre made it clear he would not return to the Packers if he wasn't the starter. And while Favre said the Packers asked him for a list of teams to which he would accept a trade, he wants to be released to make sure he ends up on a competitive club.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3486775

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:23 pm
by humanrefutation
Keep it real, Brett. You told Javon to live up to his contract and do what's best for the franchise. You need to do the same thing, too.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:23 pm
by randy84
CharlosVllnueva wrote:
randy84 wrote:
CharlosVllnueva wrote:It looks as though the very man who made this franchise what it is will now be the one to destroy it.


Give me a break. How is he going to destroy it?

The solution is simple, let Favre come back and QB for the Packers. Rodgers hasn't even gone through a training camp as a starter, so to say that the franchise has moved on is a bunch of bull.

Plus we have no idea how good or bad Rodgers is going to be. Do you really think someone is going to give him a big contract in the offseason based on his zero starts and 1 touchdown pass?

People are really overthinking this whole situation.


Quite simple.

A. Favre comes back and starts. Unless we win the super bowl when he is back or Brian Brohm becomes amazing, we revert to the Chicago Bears trying to find a quarterback while the rest of our team is in its prime after Favre leaves.

B. Favre decides to go back into retirement because he is backed into a corner. Unless Rodgers is amazing right away(which becomes less likely with the amount of pressure on him), the players on the team and all of the fans will be in a divide about what could have been.

C. We let Favre go somewhere else. This will create a divide too no matter how he plays. If he plays well, even if Rodgers does also it becomes a failure. The only way this plan works is if Favre falls miserably flat on his face somewhere.

Any way you slice it, the current team is going to cause be divided.

Not to mention, we wasted a 1st round pick and 20 million on a backup QB who now feels we ruined his career if Favre returns.

We also wasted an opportunity to trade that player when his value was somewhat high. I don't think we would get much for Rodgers at this point and the dilemma is similar because most teams that might want him reside in our division or conference.


Well we are in position A right now. We are the Chicago Bears looking for a QB if Favre doesn't come back.

If Favre does come back and retire then Rodgers takes over which was the plan.

And we drafted Rodgers before we had any clue as to when Favre would retire. And if you go by Favre's contract, then the franchise must have expected him to play for another 3 years.

So all this adds up to exactly nothing, unless you aren't going to let Favre QB the Packers, which makes zero sense.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:29 pm
by humanrefutation
randy84 wrote:...


Here are the problems with your mindset:

A. If Favre comes back, you can be sure as hell that Rodgers won't re-sign with us this offseason, negating your "Rodgers takes over which was the plan" point.

B. The contract that he gave was more of a legacy contract. No one actually expected Favre to play until he was 42. But, regardless, he waffled every year. In 2005, the year after we drafted Rodgers, Favre nearly retired. They can't have expected him to keep waffling the life of Rodgers contract, or else they wouldn't have drafted him.

Favre dug his own grave. The Packers shouldn't have to dig him out and simultaneously dig their own at the same time.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:34 pm
by Kerb Hohl
randy84 wrote:Well we are in position A right now. We are the Chicago Bears looking for a QB if Favre doesn't come back.

If Favre does come back and retire then Rodgers takes over which was the plan.

And we drafted Rodgers before we had any clue as to when Favre would retire. And if you go by Favre's contract, then the franchise must have expected him to play for another 3 years.

So all this adds up to exactly nothing, unless you aren't going to let Favre QB the Packers, which makes zero sense.


No.

No way in HELL Aaron Rodgers comes back when his contract ends after next season if Favre comes back and starts.

We have already groomed a QB in our system behind a legend and he has shown some promise. Almost no other team other than the early 90's 49ers can say that they had that privilege. I also think the Packers must think Rodgers has some very good promise considering that they are willing to kiss a living legend goodbye to let him play in the future even if Favre did step on some toes trying to come back.

After that, we are counting on Brian Brohm has hasn't even shown us promise in practice or a limited game showing. It isn't very easy to find a QB to lead you to dominance. We will have to wait it out year by year in the draft if Brohm doesn't pan out and then we will have a 2-3 year growing pain period even if we do draft the right guy. With our current roster and the way that Thompson has managed to leave room for most of our successful guys to stay here for a while. We have a 5-7 year window, IMO. We might waste 5 years finding another solid QB that fits in.

I guess we could get lucky and try to pry Derek Anderson or Quinn away from the Browns at some point, but at this point I am more confident in Rodgers' success than Quinn's, although that could change in the next few eyars when both get more exposure.

Right now, the Packers think they have that right guy for the future. However, if Favre wants to come back, his future here is done.

And if you want to think that no one will sign a guy that has had limited game-time experience...

Matt Schaub?

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:35 pm
by ReasonablySober
Favre's going to have to come around to the fact that he's not going to be a Minnesota Viking. That has to be the reason why he wants his 'unconditional' release and why he doesn't want to go the trade route.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:37 pm
by Mags FTW
randy84 wrote:And we drafted Rodgers before we had any clue as to when Favre would retire. And if you go by Favre's contract, then the franchise must have expected him to play for another 33 years.

That's not the case. Back in 2001 Favre signed what was nicknamed a "lifetime" contract and nobody really thought he would be playing this long. Here's a link. Make note of the parts in bold.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... ntract_ap/

Pack for life
Favre signs lifetime extension with Green Bay

GREEN BAY, Wisc. (AP) -- To most people, a lifetime contract means never having to worry about money again. To Brett Favre, it meant having to take a break from mowing his lawn.

"It was hard for them to get me to come to this interview, I was out cutting the grass," the Green Bay Packers' quarterback said Friday from his home in Kiln, Miss., when his lifetime extension was announced on a conference call.

Afterward, the Packers traded Favre's highly touted backup, Matt Hasselbeck, to the Seattle Seahawks for undisclosed 2001 draft choices.

Favre's never been one to fret over finances.

He said his agent tried for six weeks to get him into his office to go over the details of the extension that the Green Bay Press-Gazette reported was worth $100 million over 10 years.

"I was too busy doing something else. Not that it wasn't important to me. But I've always said that I've made great money and I meant that," Favre said.

Favre, the only NFL player to win the MVP award three times, would be the NFL's first nine-figure player, his contract topping the $90 million contract the Washington Redskins gave halfback Stephen Davis last year.

However, Favre's contract, which includes a $10 million signing bonus, is essentially a six-year deal for salary cap purposes.

The final few years of the contract include highly inflated salaries that Favre will never earn. He has said he doesn't see himself playing beyond 2006.

Before renegotiating his contract to allow the Packers to shave about $4 million off his 2001 salary cap number of $9.474 million, Favre had three years and $21 million left on the seven-year, $47.25 million deal he signed in 1998.

"I don't think it will ever affect my play," Favre said. "My first year, when I made $300,000 ... You know, I'm one of those guys who enjoys playing the game and have always said that regardless of what I make, I'm going to play it one way. And I really mean that.

"And people they may roll their eyes at that, they may not. But that's me. It's over and done with today and we go on and play football."

The 31-year-old quarterback said he could never envision himself playing for another team: "If that was to ever come up, I probably would just retire," he said.

Now, he won't have to worry about it.

Re: Favre Speaks

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:45 pm
by Mags FTW
Here's the link to that interview Beebe just did with Homer. Even though he's Favre's friend he thinks the Packers are doing the right thing.
mms://goodkarma.wmod.llnwd.net/a459/o2/ ... _Beebe.mp3