Harrell may miss season

[ReasonablySober]

http://blogs.jsonline.com/packers/archi ... rated.aspx

This one hurts.

edit: I guess it's not a certainty yet, but it's not looking good.

[MickeyDavis]

Damn, he was a questionable pick to begin with. The Corey Williams deal is going to bite us in the ass.

[paulpressey25]

This is indeed a big problem. We need Jolly to be able to play......

[MickeyDavis]

No Jolly = Big Problem

[ReasonablySober]

So without Harrell we're probably looking at a DT rotation of

Ryan Pickett
Cullen Jenkins
Johny Jolly
Colin Cole
Daniel Muir

I always assumed we'd see Jenkins back on the inside, so this may not hurt us too bad. It would leave us dangerously thin, though.

One thing to consider is the Packers experimenting with the 3-4, or some form of it. In the minicamps and OTAs they would frequently have 4 LBs on the field at one. I assume the line then looks something like

Kampman
Pickett
Jenkins

with the four backers.

[El Duderino]

I wasn't expecting anything special from Harrell, but at least he would have been a big body. If Pickett misses any time during the season, things could be very grim on the interior of the DLine.

[MetroDrugUnit]

Thats what happens when you think you're too deep at a certain position, you make some moves and bam, all of the sudden it's questionable with Jollys future in Goodell's hands. Never liked the Harrell pick, felt like we only made it because we found out Shanahan wanted the guy.

[Ill-yasova]

I think if Jolly is allowed to play we could be alright. Jolly and Pickett are solid and I like Muir to be a nice surprise especially on pass rushing downs.

[eagle13]

Harrell was bad pick b/c of college injury history. I said so then.
Trading Cory b/c he could get $6mil was overly cheap. (just like with grant)

Unless Montgomery is really ready to seal the run - Jenkins has to play DE on run downs - thus to play more inside on pass downs means he will not be fresh. No matter what - look for Kamp, Pick & Jenk to play many downs. Against top OLs these guys will tire.

Muir is the long shot dark horse hopeful. Plays T or E and can rush ala Jenkins.

[Neusch23]

I really don't think that Jolly will be able to play...with federal charges ahead of him....people have been sat by RG for much less.

[ReddManBogieMan]

I don't see the Pack putting a player with the impact that is expected for Justin to make on defense to be put on IR because of a "setback". Especially with being so thin at DT depth.

Man I'm going to miss Corey Williams this year. He was a great pass rusher and pretty adequate against the run, and I loved his passion and how fired up he played.

Justin Harrell from what I have seen doesn't give off that type of energy and charisma like Williams did, and will be very hard pressed to get to his pass rushing skill level.

I was just looking forward to really watching Justin in TC and Preseason to get a better idea of what to expect from him at starting DT, hopefully he makes a speedy recovery and gets back out there or otherwise he may lose his starting spot that was handed to him on a silver plater by Thompson by trading Williams and not bringing anyone else in to challenge him (other than Johnny Jolly who is already on the team).

Get ready Big Boy we are counting on You!

[jarrettjackfan]

I still hold to what I thought on draft day when they picked Harrell. Not a good pick.

[Mags FTW]

I still hold to what I thought on draft day when they picked Harrell. Not a good pick.

And who did you want them to pick instead???

And what did you think about all of the other picks???

I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this...

[DelaneyRudd]

I still hold to what I thought on draft day when they picked Harrell. Not a good pick.

They should have totally taken Nick Folk instead. He made the Pro-bowl!

[Rockmaninoff]

I still hold to what I thought on draft day when they picked Harrell. Not a good pick.

And who did you want them to pick instead???

And what did you think about all of the other picks???

I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this...

I wanted safety Michael Griffin. Actually, any of those DBs picked 18-21 would have been fine. I thought defensive back was our biggest need and that the best players available at that spot were DBs. Didn't believe and still don't that Jarrett Bush is the anwser.

Or, that rumored Cleveland trade. What was it, Quinn for Cleveland's 2007 and 2008 first round picks?

Harrell just seemed like a reach at the time. It was like a Bucks pick, in that it was based on potential, rather than solid production.

Maybe the Packers should just make it a principle, to trade any 1st round pick that is not in the top 5.

Hopefully, the Packers can get some D-line help through the Brett trade, if and when it finally happens.

Although, I do like the 3-4 scheme idea. Bishop is ready to make some noise.

[eagle13]

I still hold to what I thought on draft day when they picked Harrell. Not a good pick.

And who did you want them to pick instead???

And what did you think about all of the other picks???

I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this...

Why? The guy gave an oppnion that is totally relevant to team transactions and the subsequent impact on the roster which is the heart of the purpose of this website.. You loved the pick didn't you?

[Neusch23]

I think, team wise....the health and depth of our D-line is much more important that who is our QB, and will effect more wins than people think.

[El Duderino]

I still hold to what I thought on draft day when they picked Harrell. Not a good pick.

And who did you want them to pick instead???

And what did you think about all of the other picks???

I'm sorry, but I hate posts like this...

Last time i checked, this site is called RealGM where fans of teams like to play quasi-GM and they give their opinions pro or nay to draft picks, trades, or other forms of player transactions.

I wasn't a fan of the pick at the time either, but i'm certainly not relishing the fact that so far, the choice is looking even worse than i envisioned at the time.

Hopefully though at some point, Harrell can shake the injury bug that has plagued him and we get something from him.

[xTitan]

I think, team wise....the health and depth of our D-line is much more important that who is our QB, and will effect more wins than people think.

Wow, mark this day down, we finally agree on something!.....the defensive line is the single biggest concern I have for this team. I wonder if the Packers have enough health problems with tackles if they would consider playing some 3-4, I believe in the early camps they experimented alot with more than 3 LB's on the field and I definitely think with the progress of Bishop and Hodge to go with there other very good LB's that might be an interesting thought.

[El Duderino]

I'm equally concerned about the defensive line. We all saw the pass rush falter as the year went along and not only are there injuries along the line, our clearly best interior rusher was traded.

I know there was talk of possibly more blitzing, but i'll believe it when i see it from Bob vanilla defense Sanders. Hopefully Jenkins provides quite a bit more pressure than he did last year because right now at least, there only looks to be two pass rushers they can count on, KGB and Kampman.