OT: Queens Acquire Sage Rosenfels

aaprigs311 · Post #1 » by **aaprigs311** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:54 pm

Not real big news, but I thought I'd post it anyways. I don't even think he's much of an upgrade over TJ/Gus, but you never know I guess. The Vikings love them some crappy quarterbacks.

Rosenfels Heading North?

From John McClain of The Houston Chronicle:

The Texans and Minnesota are close to completing a trade that would send quarterback Sage Rosenfels to the Vikings, possibly for a fourth-round draft choice.

The Texans had no comment on the report.

This is the second year in a row in which the Vikings have been interested in acquiring Rosenfels as their starting quarterback. Rosenfels, who won six games in the last two seasons when replacing the injured Matt Schaub, is approaching the last year of his contract. If the trade is completed, the Vikings will want to extend Rosenfels’ contract.

The Vikings have Tarvaris Jackson and Gus Frerotte on their roster. Jackson is a former second-round pick and Frerotte is a 14-year veteran.

Rosenfels, who grew up in Iowa and played at Iowa State, was hoping to be traded to the Vikings last year. Media reports said Minnesota offered a third-round draft choice, but the Texans wanted a second-round pick. Both teams denied an offer was made. The reason Rosenfels wants to be traded to the Vikings is that he would have a chance to start for a team that has Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor at running back and as has led the NFL in run defense for the last two years.

The additional draft choice would give the Texans eight selections in the draft on April 25-26. Their last three picks in the fourth round were tight end Owen Daniels, cornerback Fred Bennett and outside linebacker Xavier Adibi.

The Texans will be in the market for another veteran quarterback. Alex Brink was a seventh-round pick last year who spent the season on the practice squad. When Schaub was injured, the Texans signed Craig Nall for the remainder of the season.

LUKE23 · Post #2 » by **LUKE23** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 8:57 pm

Career 30 TD and 29 INT. He's 31 in two weeks and not getting any better.

aaprigs311 · Post #3 » by **aaprigs311** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 9:00 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Career 30 TD and 29 INT. He's 31 in two weeks and not getting any better.

Exactly how the Vikings like them.

Enrique · Post #4 » by **Enrique** » Mon Feb 23, 2009 11:28 pm

I actually think its a pretty decent pickup. I've seen him have some pretty amazing games playing with a crappy team. I know it's not saying much, but he's much better than Frerotte or Terdvaris.

Thunder Muscle · Post #5 » by **Thunder Muscle** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:40 am

The Human Helicopter!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0

aaprigs311 · Post #6 » by **aaprigs311** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 3:49 am

N8Frog wrote:The Human Helicopter!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3_hi7gOjE0

Sage doing his best Petey Pablo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-26bRZEedZg

Haha they lost the game on that play too. I think they blew a 17 pt lead with less than 8 to play.

automatic44 · Post #7 » by **automatic44** » Tue Feb 24, 2009 6:43 am

Although it's not huge, I think he's a more capable QB than Jackson and Ferrote, which is an upgrade on O for a division rival.

an_also · Post #8 » by **an_also** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:59 am

ROSENCOPTER!!!

notoriousTJ11 · Post #9 » by **notoriousTJ11** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 3:20 pm

The Vikes are the anti-Packers. They trade away draft picks for vets all the time and sign free agents as much as anyone other than maybe the Redskins. The Vikings I believe are a QB away from being a championship caliber team and I don't think this addresses that issue. If they got someone like Jeff Garcia I'd be worried because he's such a good facilitator and does not turn the ball over much. Rosenfels doesn't worry me that much because he's never been the guy and at 31 I think he's either around or passing his peak.

Post #10 » by **Jollay** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:42 pm

I don't know why you wouldn't do this if you're the Vikings.

I mean its nice to grab a Jeremy Thompson but I think its slightly more important for them to try and upgrade at QB.

We laugh about the Vikings but they are only an average QB away from likely being generally favorites over us for years.

LUKE23 · Post #11 » by **LUKE23** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 4:47 pm

We laugh about the Vikings but they are only an average QB away from likely being generally favorites over us for years.

You could say the same about the Packers. They are nothing more than a few defensive players away from being the most complete team in the division. They already have the best offense in the division, that is going nowhere given the youth overall on offense. They need health, a couple guys added and their D is right back to where it was in 2007. And they now have coaches in place with a long history of success on the defensive side.

But Rosenfels is nothing but a very good backup and average at best starter. So until they DO address QB, it's hard to call the Vikings a contender. QB is easily the most important position on a roster, and unless you have a top 5 all-time D, you need a good to great QB to win titles.

aaprigs311 · Post #12 » by **aaprigs311** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 5:37 pm

Jollay wrote:I don't know why you wouldn't do this if you're the Vikings.

I mean its nice to grab a Jeremy Thompson but I think its slightly more important for them to try and upgrade at QB.

We laugh about the Vikings but they are only an average QB away from likely being generally favorites over us for years.

For years? Maybe for a year or two. They're not exactly a young team.

Kerb Hohl · Post #13 » by **Kerb Hohl** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 6:32 pm

Jollay wrote:I don't know why you wouldn't do this if you're the Vikings.
We laugh about the Vikings but they are only an average QB away from likely being generally favorites over us for years.

Other than Peterson and the Williams bros nothing on that nothing says that they are that much better than us.

I am normally a very pessimistic fan but people look way too far into records in the NFL in year-to-year comparisons. This is why some teams fluctuate so much from year to year.

They won the division fair and square and were no doubt the better team last year but I don't see it as being by that much considering that if Mason Crosby hits winning FGs vs. the Bears and Vikings and the Vikings don't win a nailbiter vs. the Giants backups (for the 2nd half) both teams are 8-8.

I'm not making major excuses here but just trying to illustrate that the 4-win difference between the teams wasn't that much. The Saints literally handed a game to the Vikings where the Vikings just made a few opportune plays and had the ball bounce their way and a questionable pass interference call vs. the Lions gave the Vikes a last-second FG win vs. Detroit.

Anyways, playmakers and opportune play are what make NFL teams good/bad, I get that...but I don't see the 10-6 and 6-10 gap between these 2 teams being that great, and I wouldn't even reject an argument that we were better last year. I have extracted the difference between us finishing ahead of them to FG kickers and a bad call by a ref. That is NFL football, but if those balls bounce our way next year then we are a better team. The +/- of both teams was essentially even this year.

EDIT:
Oh, and if anyone wants to give the Favre "clutch" argument, Crosby missed his 2 game-winning FGs this past year but in the 13-3 year I don't think he missed a game winner or clutch FG all year. Crosby hit a 50+ yard winner vs. Philly to open the 13-3 year but missed a 50+ yarder vs. Minnesota this past year to win that game.