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Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:26 pm
by PkrsBcksGphsMqt
Decent article highlighting where Justin Harrell is physically and mentally...

http://www.madison.com/toolbox/index.ph ... d%3D452892

GREEN BAY — As frustrated as Green Bay Packers fans have become with former first-round draft pick Justin Harrell, they should know that the third-year defensive lineman at least feels their pain.

“Anytime you draft somebody as high as they drafted me and he hasn’t done anything the whole two years he was up here, it’s like he’s getting free money,” Harrell said Thursday. “I can totally understand where people are coming from. But I’ve got to stay focused on just trying to get myself healthy. I know once I get myself healthy, everything else will take care of itself.”

Hopefully, Harrell will understand if people find that one a little hard to swallow. Plagued by chronic back pain, he has appeared in 13 of the Packers’ 32 regular-season games since he was drafted and didn’t do anything notable on the rare occasions when he did play.

The good news about Harrell is the fans’ pain is the only pain he is feeling these days. Proclaiming himself pain-free for the first time in four years, Harrell ran with the No. 1 unit as an end in the Packers’ new 3-4 defense during an OTA session Thursday.

Part of that was because Cullen Jenkins is recovering from injuries and isn’t practicing, but the mere fact Harrell was full-go and moving around well was encouraging because he hasn’t been healthy enough to participate in the OTAs the last two offseasons. That’s not really setting the bar very high, but, given Harrell’s near-bust status in Green Bay, low expectations are understandable.

“My expectations for Justin are to stay healthy,” said coach Mike McCarthy, who called Harrell a hard worker and an excellent student. “I think all of the individual goals that he has and that we have for him, he’ll be successful and reach. He’s a player that is kind of going through an injury segment of his career, and it happens. ... There have been nothing but positive signs so far, but he’s got to get over this medical hurdle that he has been fighting through.”

As scary as the thought is, the Packers’ success this season might depend on it.

With the hiring of Dom Capers as defensive coordinator and the subsequent switch to a 3-4 alignment, the Packers needed some new players up front who fit the scheme. The draft yielded possible immediate help in nose tackle B.J. Raji and outside linebacker Clay Matthews, but it didn’t provide any answers at end.

That’s where Harrell comes in. With Jenkins out, Harrell and the versatile Raji were the ends flanking nose tackle Ryan Pickett Thursday. Johnny Jolly, who was thought to be a likely starter at end, mostly played tackle with Raji in a four-man line on pass-rushing downs.

Problem is, the ends on the NFL’s best 3-4 teams tend to stand at least 6-foot-4 and weigh at least 300 pounds. Of the Packers’ top four ends, only Harrell has the type of rangy body that works best at the position.

Though he might not athletic enough to become a great 3-4 end, Harrell would greatly aid the defensive transition with a breakthrough season.

“I evaluated Justin coming out of Tennessee and I thought that he had good ability to be a 3-4 defensive end,” Capers said. “He’s certainly been in here and working through all of our offseason training program. He’s done a good job.”

Yes, but can the Packers count on Harrell after he’s disappointed them so often? Given his history, it would be foolish to do so.

Even now, Harrell is raising red flags. He lost considerable weight during offseason conditioning — he guessed he dropped to about 310 — but went home for a week around Memorial Day and came back at 325. This from a guy who let himself go last offseason and immediately injured his back when he reported to work.

Harrell said he’s learned his lesson, but we’ve heard that before. One thing we haven’t heard is Harrell admitting to disappointment and frustration over letting people down.

“I’ve been here for three years and I don’t feel like I’ve really lived up to anything that they were expecting,” he said. “I have a lot to prove. Hopefully, this will be the year.”

With few other options at end, the Packers are counting on it.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 6:41 pm
by MickeyDavis
He says he is "pain free" and then he also says "“I But I’ve got to stay focused on just trying to get myself healthy. I know once I get myself healthy, everything else will take care of itself.”

Injured in college and now going into his third season he's still "trying to get myself healthy". What a wasted pick.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 7:59 pm
by ReasonablySober
Right now he's penciled in as a starter. We'll see.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:12 pm
by Ayt
A healthy Harrell at DE would be a huge boost this season, IMO.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:30 pm
by El Duderino
Ayt wrote:A healthy Harrell at DE would be a huge boost this season, IMO.


Yep

Considering what a waste he's been so far, any quality production from him would almost be like adding another player to this years draft class.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 8:59 pm
by MickeyDavis
Even if he's healthy (a big if) we don't even know if he can play at this level.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:04 pm
by ReasonablySober
We don't but the coaches do and they have him as the starter right now.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Fri May 29, 2009 9:54 pm
by rilamann
DrugBust wrote:Right now he's penciled in as a starter. We'll see.



That pencil better have an eraser.

:lol:

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 7:02 am
by El Duderino
rilamann wrote:
DrugBust wrote:Right now he's penciled in as a starter. We'll see.



That pencil better have an eraser.

:lol:



Very good rilamann

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 4:48 pm
by Thunder Muscle
I have always been excited to see what this guy has got. I really hope he can stay healthy, its a HUGE if, but damn if they get this guy going. Its like an added top draft pick on the D. Obviously I'm not holding my breath, but if its going to happen, its going to be this year I think.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 8:28 pm
by Ayt
MickeyDavis wrote:Even if he's healthy (a big if) we don't even know if he can play at this level.


I often will rewatch games just focusing on line play, and I think he's actually been pretty damn good when he's played. I really don't think talent is an issue with Harrell. I also think he's a better fit as a 3-4 DE than he was as a DE in our old system. For me, its really just a question of health with him.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:47 pm
by MickeyDavis
I don't know, he had one game last year with 5 tackles (3 solo, 2 assist). That was in the blowout loss to the Saints where all but one tackle came in the fourth quarter when the Saints were running out the clock. Other than that he did nothing last season at all. And 2007 wasn't better.

Sure, maybe if he's 100% healthy he will be a good player. But he hasn't been healthy since 2005.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 2:22 pm
by th87
15 pounds in a week? Forgive me if I don't buy that. The anti-Harrell slant in this article is pretty obvious.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 3:30 pm
by MickeyDavis
What kind of "slant" should there be for a guy who's been a total bust?

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 4:43 am
by th87
A "total bust" is someone like Mandarich, who just sucked. Harrell hasn't been able to be healthy - there's a difference there. This case is a lot like Mike Flanagan who took a lot of time to get the injury monkey off his back.

When he's played, he's showed some very good signs. He's taken wrong gaps and such, but he belongs physically. He has good lateral quickness, athleticism, and physical strength. Hopefully he can stay healthy and translate those tools to consistent success.

Re: Justin Harrell Article

Posted: Mon Jun 1, 2009 4:09 pm
by Wade-A-Holic
I see plenty of instances in which a guy gets ripped on based off of where he was picked in the draft even though he obviously has no control over where he's picked and it's not his fault. In many of these cases, I think it's unwarranted (anger should be directed at the scouts/GM), but there are reasons to be frustrated with Harrell. It's well known that he had let himself go before reporting last summer, which is probably a pretty big reason why he got hurt in the first place. He seems to have learned his lesson now, but he has not earned immunity from criticism.