If we dont make the playoffs......

The Sheik · Post #1 » by **The Sheik** » Sun Sep 9, 2007 8:48 pm

Its all on Jimbo, his inability to get anyone of use while giving away good mid-level prospects has been ridiculous.

Trachsel
Monroe

Both of whom have cost us games.

2ndly Lou and Jims choice to let our best prospect sit on the bench for nearly 2 months rather then play (here or AAA) has been absurd. * Note see Craig Monroe playing CF.

IbreakNeckZ101 · Post #2 » by **IbreakNeckZ101** » Sun Sep 9, 2007 10:15 pm

Jim hendry is going to get fired soon bank on it.

risktaker91 · Post #3 » by **risktaker91** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:18 am

Cubs will make it. Brewers and Cardinals suck. Cubs are the best in the division, and they've got one of my favorite players in the majors, Alfonso Soriano.

SportsWorld · Post #4 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:22 am

risktaker91 wrote:Cubs will make it. Brewers and Cardinals suck. Cubs are the best in the division, and they've got one of my favorite players in the majors, Alfonso Soriano.

That makes me feel much better

Posey H8er · Post #5 » by **Posey H8er** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:26 am

risktaker91 wrote:Cubs will make it. Brewers and Cardinals suck. Cubs are the best in the division, and they've got one of my favorite players in the majors, Alfonso Soriano.

I've been hearing that all year long, but that hasn't translated to wins.

risktaker91 · Post #6 » by **risktaker91** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:28 am

SportsWorld wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

That makes me feel much better

Cubs fans are hilarious. They hate their team so much, and when someone plays bad for a game, that player gets flamed like crazy. Relax, the team is healthy, the rotation is good, and you're forgetting that the Cubs are the best in the division. The cardinals have a lineup of Pujols, and Steroid users. The Brewers have the worst pitching rotation I've ever seen.

Remember the Cardinals had the worst record of all the playoff teams last year and ended up winning the World Series.

And you have Soriano, best player in the NL.

SportsWorld · Post #7 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:41 am

Best player in the NL?
What about Prince Fielder and Ryan Braun in Milwaukee alone?

Right now we are concerned about GETTING INTO THE PLAYOFFS you are already thinking ahead.

Posey H8er · Post #8 » by **Posey H8er** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:42 am

Well right now we are in second place, and Soriano isn't 100% healthy. We must "win" to actually end up in the playoffs. Then World Series talk can come.

goirish2107 · Post #9 » by **goirish2107** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 3:44 am

soriano's the best because he came from the AL and no NL player could possibly be better

The Sheik · Post #10 » by **The Sheik** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:42 am

risktaker91 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Cubs fans are hilarious. They hate their team so much, and when someone plays bad for a game, that player gets flamed like crazy. Relax, the team is healthy, the rotation is good, and you're forgetting that the Cubs are the best in the division. The cardinals have a lineup of Pujols, and Steroid users. The Brewers have the worst pitching rotation I've ever seen.

Remember the Cardinals had the worst record of all the playoff teams last year and ended up winning the World Series.

And you have Soriano, best player in the NL.

Are you kidding? Our rotation has been just as bad as the Brewers. On paper we have the best team, but that doesnt mean we will win the division.

4 of our 5 starters have an ERA over 4, one of which proclaimed he'd win the Cy Young.

Our power has been so bad that Michael Barrett is 4th on the team in HRs.

Dont come here and question us as fans we have the right to criticism them however we want. This team should be much better then they are playing right now and its just frustrating as hell.

I also just realized you called Soriano the NL's best player...LOL he isnt even the best player on his team.

SportsWorld · Post #11 » by **SportsWorld** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:45 am

Ryan Theriot has been more reliable than Soriano.
Theriot is patient at the plate and takes pitches. Theriot has more stolen bases than Soriano. And Theriot drives in runs in clutch situations unlike Soriano. And Theriot isn't even our leadoff hitter.

brewcityboii · Post #12 » by **brewcityboii** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 6:03 pm

Alfonso Soriano
AVG .295 | HR 24 | RBI 53 | OBP .332 | SLG .529 / 18SB

Corey Hart
AVG .292 | HR 20 | RBI 68 | OBP .352 | SLG .528 / 22SB

I could probally get one player off every NL team that is at least comparable to Soriano if not better.

soriano's the best because he came from the AL and no NL player could possibly be better

Obvioulsy! :rofl:

risktaker91 · Post #13 » by **risktaker91** » Mon Sep 10, 2007 8:32 pm

Soriano was injured for a long time. If he was healthy in a season, he'd get 40+ homers, 40+ stolen bases, .300 batting average, and 120+ RBIs and have 20+ assists. Soriano's got speed, power, defense, hits, everything. One of the most all-rounded players in the MLB. If I was a Cubs fan I'd praise him everyday. I'd trade Halladay, Glaus, Wells and our top prospect Adam Lind for Alfonso Soriano.

brewcityboii · Post #14 » by **brewcityboii** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 4:57 pm

risktaker91 wrote:Soriano was injured for a long time. If he was healthy in a season, he'd get 40+ homers, 40+ stolen bases, .300 batting average, and 120+ RBIs and have 20+ assists. Soriano's got speed, power, defense, hits, everything. One of the most all-rounded players in the MLB. If I was a Cubs fan I'd praise him everyday. I'd trade Halladay, Glaus, Wells and our top prospect Adam Lind for Alfonso Soriano.

Well you might be able to get hired by the Devil Rays.

brewcityboii · Post #15 » by **brewcityboii** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 6:22 pm

risktaker91 wrote:Soriano was injured for a long time. If he was healthy in a season, he'd get 40+ homers, 40+ stolen bases, .300 batting average, and 120+ RBIs and have 20+ assists. Soriano's got speed, power, defense, hits, everything. One of the most all-rounded players in the MLB. If I was a Cubs fan I'd praise him everyday. I'd trade Halladay, Glaus, Wells and our top prospect Adam Lind for Alfonso Soriano.

Do you even watch NL baseball.
Soriano has played in 117 games and has 500AB only 32BB and 109SO
Corey Hart is at 121 games and 431AB 32BB 85SO
I'm pretty sure soriano was only out for close to a month.

So please give me further evidence that you have never watched NL baseball.

mattbulls · Post #16 » by **mattbulls** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:13 pm

brewcityboii wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Do you even watch NL baseball.
Soriano has played in 117 games and has 500AB only 32BB and 109SO
Corey Hart is at 121 games and 431AB 32BB 85SO
I'm pretty sure soriano was only out for close to a month.

So please give me further evidence that you have never watched NL baseball.

I know Soriano is having a subpar year for himself this year, but he did play in the NL last year. Take a look at the stats.

brewcityboii · Post #17 » by **brewcityboii** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:00 pm

mattbulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I know Soriano is having a subpar year for himself this year, but he did play in the NL last year. Take a look at the stats.

I am not doubting soriano as a great player which he really is.

He has been solid for the previous 6 years. But with his current down year it makes me wonder if he slacked off since hitting the big pay day.

In no way do I think corey hart is a better player than soriano. I was just making reference to risktaker who claims soriano is the best player in the NL.

And you have Soriano, best player in the NL.

Maybe on paper he was coming in to the season but I think there are 3 players in the NL central that are better tahn soriano hands down and there a bunch more that are close to his level.

2poor · Post #18 » by **2poor** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:04 pm

I think everyone knew there would be adjustments for Soriano to make and that he wouldn't hit his stride immediately this year. In fact, I look for next year to actually be his big year with the Cubs, a la Moises Alou.

You guys seem caught up in his offensive stats without realizing that he's turned into a pretty damn good corner OF.

13 assists this year, 4 double plays turned. Strong accurate arm, and fields his position pretty well.

brewcityboii · Post #19 » by **brewcityboii** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:11 pm

2poor wrote:I think everyone knew there would be adjustments for Soriano to make and that he wouldn't hit his stride immediately this year. In fact, I look for next year to actually be his big year with the Cubs, a la Moises Alou.

You guys seem caught up in his offensive stats without realizing that he's turned into a pretty damn good corner OF.

13 assists this year, 4 double plays turned. Strong accurate arm, and fields his position pretty well.

He is a great fielder and will be for years to come but saying he is the best player in the NL is absolutly absurd.

Post #20 » by **GYBE** » Tue Sep 11, 2007 8:37 pm

He's not a great fielder. He's a decent fielder. He has a cannon arm, but that gets negated a bit by his horrible routes to flyballs. He's missed quite a few balls this year based on a bad jump or initially misjudging them off the bat.