1.23: Laquan Treadwell [WR] Ole Miss
2.54: Mackensie Alexander [CB] Clemson
4.121: Willie Beaver [OL] Western Michigan
5.160: Kentrell Brothers [LB] Missouri
6.180: Moritz Boehringer [WR] Germany
6.188: David Morgan II [TE] Texas-San Antonio
7.227: Stephen Weatherly [DE] Vanderbilt
7.244: Jayron Kearse [S] Clemson
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2016 Vikings Draft Class
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so what do we think? good/bad/ok?
treadwell will be good for fitting a need right away, alexander sounds like a really good get from where we drafted him. we got depth at other expected places (d-line, o-line, lb). kind of surprised they waited until the seventh round to get a safety. also surprised we got a tight end. we'll see what the german wr can do, he's a big guy
having two more picks next year will be good. this almost feels like a draft where we fill a need or two and then just grab seemingly unappealing depth/project guys. guess that's the price we pay for having a pretty talented team already
treadwell will be good for fitting a need right away, alexander sounds like a really good get from where we drafted him. we got depth at other expected places (d-line, o-line, lb). kind of surprised they waited until the seventh round to get a safety. also surprised we got a tight end. we'll see what the german wr can do, he's a big guy
having two more picks next year will be good. this almost feels like a draft where we fill a need or two and then just grab seemingly unappealing depth/project guys. guess that's the price we pay for having a pretty talented team already
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I'm a big fan of this draft.
Treadwell: instant starter
Alexander: great value; eventual Munnerlyn replacement
Beaver: concern is understandable, but fits traits Sparano looks for in OL
Brothers: the eventual third LB in base defense
Moehringer: upside
Morgan: insurance for Ellison
Weatherley: drafting a raw pass rusher worked well last year
Kearse: big safety Zimmer likes
Treadwell: instant starter
Alexander: great value; eventual Munnerlyn replacement
Beaver: concern is understandable, but fits traits Sparano looks for in OL
Brothers: the eventual third LB in base defense
Moehringer: upside
Morgan: insurance for Ellison
Weatherley: drafting a raw pass rusher worked well last year
Kearse: big safety Zimmer likes
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I'm happy with the draft, I just wish we would have been more aggressive in the earlier rounds, finding a safety who can play next to Harrison Smith. I think in doing so it moves our defense from very good to elite, a championship defense. But I do trust Zimmer, and love Treadwell..
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The first 2 picks seem great. I question the athletic ability of Brothers and Morgan. Brothers was hugely productive, but he's also a bad combination of small and slow. I don't know if he would have lasted another round, but he seems more like a 6th round pick.
Morgan is a skill position player who ran a 5+ 40, I don't know how many successful TE's run that slow. At some point you might as well just put another tackle out there.
Morgan is a skill position player who ran a 5+ 40, I don't know how many successful TE's run that slow. At some point you might as well just put another tackle out there.
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i was surprised at the lack of going for a safety early. they must be fairly satisfied with seeing what the options they have do
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Worm Guts wrote:The first 2 picks seem great. I question the athletic ability of Brothers and Morgan. Brothers was hugely productive, but he's also a bad combination of small and slow. I don't know if he would have lasted another round, but he seems more like a 6th round pick.
Morgan is a skill position player who ran a 5+ 40, I don't know how many successful TE's run that slow. At some point you might as well just put another tackle out there.
These PFF tidbits are optimistic:
Kearse:
Jayron Kearse is a player that PFF had a fourth-round grade on, and was actually the best-graded player in the Clemson secondary this past season. He had solid grades against both the run and pass and even featured on the blitz, posting the fourth-best pass rushing productivity among safeties in this class for his work on the blitz.
Brothers:
The Vikings take a player who had the fifth-highest linebacker grade in the entire nation and the fourth-highest in the draft class. He was only available at this spot because of a relatively pedestrian measurables profile — on the field he is a force, especially against the run, where he had the second-highest grade in the draft class.
Morgan:
Morgan was easily the highest-graded run blocking tight end in 2015, not only among the draft class, but in the entire nation. No. 2 tight ends don’t have a ton of value in today’s NFL, but he is an ideal one that can block and also contribute as a receiver. His 1.65 receiving yards per route run ranked seventh in the TE class.
They didn't like beaver much though - had him ranked last in pass blocking. That doesn't sound good.
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I saw that Brothers ran a 4.73 at his Pro Day, as opposed to 4.89 at the combine. That makes me feel a lot better about him.
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Worm Guts wrote:I saw that Brothers ran a 4.73 at his Pro Day, as opposed to 4.89 at the combine. That makes me feel a lot better about him.
Ahh, that makes more sense as to why you were so down on him
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I also was readring somewhere that the big time athlete LBs that go early - ie the eye-popping #s guys - have a really bad record for panning out in the NFL. I know we've had a couple of those with Dontarrious Thomas and Raonall Smith.
I think there's just a lot of quick-fire mental processing going on - have to figure out run or pass in the face of draws/play-action/tricky formations/receivers in motion, then immediately read the routes or hole to hit.
I think there's just a lot of quick-fire mental processing going on - have to figure out run or pass in the face of draws/play-action/tricky formations/receivers in motion, then immediately read the routes or hole to hit.