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Post#641 » by Jedzz » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:54 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Let's be honest. This team didn't deserve to make the playoffs


The players might have, if not for the GM HC and OC of the season.

I would take 3 ballboys from the Patriots franchise right now and replace all three.
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Post#642 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:07 am

I don't know why anyone would be excited for next season either. This same GM and HC will bring the exact same problems back to next season.
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Post#643 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:09 am

They've turned Cousins into a shade of what Ponder was at the end. Just useless hesitating zero confidence.
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Post#644 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:17 am

Honestly my hope from this loss is it convinces them to clean house and finally get a new GM and a completely new coaching staff.
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Post#645 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:18 am

Announcing suggesting Zimmer has to be wondering what happened to the offense.

Well let's see. We've had one OC quit and another OC fired both in the middle of the season within the last three seasons.

Zimmer and Spielman are what happened to this offense. Zimmer is killing the offensive schemes and ideology and Spielman is his sidekick allowing or the one asking for it. Then you have Rick Spielman and these jokes of offensive line issues every season, drafting kickers when Oline is needed and defense early when Oline is your biggest weakness.

This duo is bad for Vikings football. Not sure when the owners will figure that out.
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Post#646 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:22 am

less then a minute, no route targets at the sidelines. Classic stupid Vikings football now.
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Post#647 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:24 am

Owners better come up with a reason for people to bother remaining fans of this joke. Current leadership isn't ever doing it.
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Post#648 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:26 am

If you think the of the player/roster situation, couldn't it be said this is a perfect time to switch GM/Coaches and clean house? With any new GM/Coach people often would expect they want a clean slate and loads of cap room to rebuild with their way and expectations are also low for a couple years because of the rebuilds going on. But a situation like this one, where loads of talent are locked up longterm could also be seen as a positive situation to move on with. This affords the new GM/Coaches to slide into the new franchise without a trash heap roster and possibly a better chance to make a good first impression with the teams community. They can retool it a bit and maybe change the personality of the team instead of try to rebuild some 3-13 mess into a big change.
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Post#649 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:29 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Honestly my hope from this loss is it convinces them to clean house and finally get a new GM and a completely new coaching staff.


Dreams of mine every year for probably 8 of the last 10 years.
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Post#650 » by hermes » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:04 pm

congrats to diggs on getting 1,000 yards
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Post#651 » by hermes » Mon Dec 31, 2018 3:07 pm

well that was a real bummer of a game

its a really bad look when you are a team in control of your own playoff destiny, at home (where we are a lot better), against a division rival and you don't even show up

bears basically had nothing to play for, and in the second half they knew it, and even when they pulled the starters (on defense) we still couldn't do anything

going to need a lot of looking in the mirror on this one
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Post#652 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:27 pm

hermes wrote:congrats to diggs on getting 1,000 yards


Diggs got ten (10) targets and caught 8 of them for only 47 yards. There was a time where if either Thielen or Diggs got ten targets it was likely well over 100 yards for them that day. Sometimes both of them in the same day. But this is what type of offense now that Zimmer and Spielman wanted it to be. Ultra short useless passes that are no better than a run play. Actually worse than a run play because it hurts the running game.

They reduced Diggs to a 4.8 yards per reception receiver with the alltime high number of ultra short targets two yards deep, especially after the season half way point. Contrast that with all the deep shots attempted to him early in the season.
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Post#653 » by Jedzz » Mon Dec 31, 2018 8:37 pm

Just think about it for a second. Thielen had over 1,000 yards 10 Games into the season even limited to shorter than usual routes from almost exclusively slot plays and often only really utilized in the 4th Q of numerous games.

There is no excuse for what occurred after that point in the season, other than the choices had nothing to do with winning games.

Thielen
First 8 games, 96 targets.
Second 8 games, 57 targets.

Obtuse individuals might look at season totals and try to show how there is nothing wrong. After all, two 1,000 yard receivers. Diggs at 149 targets in 15 games and Thielen at 153 in 16 games. Pretty even targets. But if you let yourself fall into the Total stats trap you are only lying to yourself and allowing yourself to be swindled. You won't ever see why the season failed as it morphed into a complete joke so often. They changed and mismanaged it badly during the season. The Totals also tell a different tale. I posted about this early on and it slowly got worse all season.

Plays with the ball or targeted:
1. Cook, 16.5 plays(runs/receive) a game. (920 combined yards)
2. Diggs, 9.93 targets per game. (1021 yards)
3. Thielen, 9.56 targets per game. (1373 yards)

And yet, this is the production you get from each per game.
1. Cook, 86.81 combined yards and .3 TDs
2. Thielen, 81.87 yards and .5 TDs
3. Diggs, 68.07 yards and .5 TDs

I'll let you all figure out where the worst usage mistake was made this season. I'm not even going to get into the two yards per pass average. Yeah, because it's not the ugly low 6 yards per pass average that you get when you combine a few hail marys and 40 yard loose canons fly. We should talk about the 90% of their passes that targeted players two yards deep or less. The most major icing of their own offense I've ever seen occur.
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Re: 2018 regular season thread 

Post#654 » by Jedzz » Wed Jan 2, 2019 4:52 am

Looks like team ownership isn't ready to make any changes. Same junk next season.
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Re: 2018 regular season thread 

Post#655 » by Jedzz » Wed Jan 2, 2019 5:04 am

hermes wrote:well that was a real bummer of a game

its a really bad look when you are a team in control of your own playoff destiny, at home (where we are a lot better), against a division rival and you don't even show up

bears basically had nothing to play for, and in the second half they knew it, and even when they pulled the starters (on defense) we still couldn't do anything

going to need a lot of looking in the mirror on this one


That was hilarious when they kept pointing out that the Bears were using second string defense that early in the game. The opponents can see how bad it's gotten, but the Vikings own ownership refuse to see it or do anything about it.

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