Gamethread of the Century: Good vs. Evil: Pats go to Indy

Dirty Water · Post #1 » by **Dirty Water** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 3:56 am

Who ya got? -4 is quite generous seeing as the pats are away? Who does everyone like in this one? I think the key to the game is not our offense vs their defense, but our defense vs their running game. Can we stop Addai?

Post #2 » by **Bleeding Green** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 5:45 am

Pats by 28 unless the Colts get a couple garbage touchdowns at the end of the game. But this will be a rout.

Dirty Water · Post #3 » by **Dirty Water** » Wed Oct 31, 2007 2:38 pm

Conventional logic says we have to win a game by less than 17 points sometime or another. Colts is the logical opponent.

Post #4 » by **Bleeding Green** » Thu Nov 1, 2007 3:55 am

The Patriots do not have patience for convention.

Post #5 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Thu Nov 1, 2007 3:45 pm

Guys, sorry for not having some kind of match-up out for this, the MOST IMPOTENT GAMEZ OF TEH SENTURY, but we

wigglestrue · Post #6 » by **wigglestrue** » Fri Nov 2, 2007 8:57 am

Sorry to hear that BBJ.

Pats will win this easily by 30, then retreat to the locker room to watch a tied-up Easterbrook be anally raped by circus bears.

alwayslovetheceltics · Post #7 » by **alwayslovetheceltics** » Sat Nov 3, 2007 7:06 pm

we are going to stomp these fools

richard- you are back now. do your job. take care of this manning problem. end his career.

tom- do your thang boy. when we go up by 5 tds. remember thats not enough. football is a game for men, for 60 minutes. punish em

rocketworld · Post #8 » by **rocketworld** » Sun Nov 4, 2007 7:19 pm

anyway i can watch this game online???

JCrossover#1 · Post #9 » by **JCrossover#1** » Sun Nov 4, 2007 8:30 pm

Me too, I want a Sopcast link. Thanks!

Post #10 » by **Bleeding Green** » Sun Nov 4, 2007 8:50 pm

So no Eugene Wilson. I guess this means James Sanders at FS and Rodney at SS.

captain_cheapseats · Post #11 » by **captain_cheapseats** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 1:02 am

Pats beat the Colts and the officiating crew. A nice victory.

None of those officials should ever get to call a game again.

alwayslovetheceltics · Post #12 » by **alwayslovetheceltics** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 1:06 am

BBJ and whomever else

what the hell was going on with the officials? what?

i think ellis hobbs gets more bad calls go against him than any other player- ever. today, last year's AFC championship game, the year before versus the Broncos- 2nd round of the playoffs to name of a few.

damn. great win though, but we can't always beat the 12th man.

and um, matt light. you've had a great career. pleae don't come back next week though. you are finished. kazcur- you better practice really hard the next 2 weeks

threrf23 · Post #13 » by **threrf23** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 2:03 am

Refs aside, the Colts' D impressed me today. They not only looked good but well prepared, as if they knew what plays we were running before we ran em. Brady's damn good though, late in the game he was reacting to the Colts D and changing plays almost on an every down basis and the Colts couldn't stop us.

On a side note, I'm glad I was broke today, because if I had a lot of money, I probably would have put a lot of it on the Pats to cover a 5 or 6 point spread.

Post #14 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 2:46 am

alwayslovetheceltics wrote:what the hell was going on with the officials? what?

A few years back somebody wrote an article comparing the previous five (?) Super Bowls umpiring and compared the amount of perceived 'blown' calls by fans of either team to legitimate blown calls as viewed by a former referee using instant replay then comparing it to a random assortment of non-important regular season games. (I tried finding this online to no luck)

Basically the conclusion was that high-importance games like a Super Bowl (or tonight's game) have the same amount of questionable calls as any other game, it's just that the officiating is more scrutinized than it would normally be. While tonight's game seemed pretty biased, in reality, there were quite a few borderline calls that were or weren't called and this is probably like most other games one would watch. They just seemed more biased because a few of the really sketchy calls were pass inteference penalties for quite a few yards.

PI calls have always been the bane of officiating ever since the NFL evolved from the 'Dead Ball Era' in the late 1970s. What really sucks is that PI is, ultimately, a judgement call (as opposed to something like holding, which is holding regardless) with very little continuity between officiating crews. Plus it's a spot-of-foul penalty which really effs with teams on the wrong side of a questionable call since there's no limit to the yardage on the penalty.

The officiating was no better or worse tonight than in any other non-Hochuli-officiated game. The NFL has always been this inconsistent in getting an across-the-board definition and assessment of penalties game-to-game.

captain_cheapseats · Post #15 » by **captain_cheapseats** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 3:20 am

Given that it was the most penalty yards ever assessed in the Patriots' 47 year history, I'm not sure it's fair to say we were all just tricked because it was an important game and the calls came in key situations. And while you make a good point about the the PIs (though the ones against Hobbs and Moss were especially terrible, even for PI), those weren't the only problem areas. I actually would say the call that made the officials bias most obvious was not either of the PIs, but rather that very first pass where the Colts' WR was clearly out of bounds, with two officials were staring directly at his feet, that was called a catch. Officials almost never miss that call, even when it's close, which that one was not.

l2RDO · Post #16 » by **l2RDO** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 3:29 am

During the game I kept thinking back to a post made by someone on these boards. They had said that there was no way that the NFL would let the Patriots go 19-0 after "cameragate." Although some of the calls were legit, there were alot of calls and noncalls that made me think about that post. Funny how all the suspect calls come in the only game where bad calls could have actually cost us.

Post #17 » by **Bleeding Green** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 4:32 am

What exactly is stopping the NFL from changing the ruling on PI calls? Why not just make it a stock 15 yard penalty like in college? It's just kinda ridiculous that you can chuck the ball 50 yards down the field a few times a game and pick up 50 yards without making a catch. I don't know why teams don't do it more often.

Someone should analyze all passing attempts of over 40 yards down the field and see how many of these end in PI calls versus every other passing attempt.

Boston's Future · Post #18 » by **Boston's Future** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 4:57 am

Bleeding Green wrote:What exactly is stopping the NFL from changing the ruling on PI calls? Why not just make it a stock 15 yard penalty like in college? It's just kinda ridiculous that you can chuck the ball 50 yards down the field a few times a game and pick up 50 yards without making a catch. I don't know why teams don't do it more often.

Totaly agree. And who ever said the statement about the NFL not wanting the Pats to go 19-0 after the cameragate thing is right also. Thats what I was thinking during the game. The Patriots never have 140 yards of pentalites... the Moss and Hobbs PI calls were complete bull.

l2RDO · Post #19 » by **l2RDO** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 12:28 pm

Even the Assante Samuel PI was more ticky-tack than the Kevin Faulk no-call on 3rd down.

Post #20 » by **Basketball Jesus** » Mon Nov 5, 2007 1:56 pm

Bleeding Green wrote:What exactly is stopping the NFL from changing the ruling on PI calls? Why not just make it a stock 15 yard penalty like in college? It's just kinda ridiculous that you can chuck the ball 50 yards down the field a few times a game and pick up 50 yards without making a catch. I don't know why teams don't do it more often.

Because the NFL loves high-scoring games and more open passing. No, seriously. Mel Blount rule and such.

Again, aside from the (seemingly) one-sided and dicey PI calls and a few non-calls, there was no difference between this game and any other NFL game. The officiating is this spotty across the league. Anybody that thinks otherwise either doesn