It’ll be interesting to see how Turner responds next season

[Scoot McGroot]

John Hollinger has an article on the Athletic discussing the unusual situation the Pacers have with Myles and the possibility of renegotiating his 22/23 contract and extending from there. He sees it as a likely best play for both sides. Also speculates that it won’t be settled until the trade deadline. Makes sense for the Pacers to give the league the opportunity to overpay for Myles. If that doesn’t happen Myles looks like he is having fun with this team. If we are willing to pay him now?

I think the question has to be raised: Does Myles want to stay here?

Sure, Indy can offer him the most money, now or in the offseason. He's proven to be a really good fit with Haliburton, which was allegedly one of the last hangups on the Pacers being willing to extend him in the offseason. In theory, you can renegotiate him until February 28, but are you willing to keep him past the deadline, and risk him walking for nothing in an offseason where almost half the league will have enough cap space to make him a respectable offer? And, if he's not willing to extend by the trade deadline, why would we assume he'll just re-sign in the offseason?

My question would be whether he insists on seeing what other offers are out there before signing.

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If so, they’re unlikely to “bring an offer back” and they’re likely gone.

[Topofthekey]

It's not a foregone conclusion imo

It's quite reasonable for Turner to want to see what other teams are willing to offer him, before choosing to commit with the Pacers, or anyone else

I think as long as Pacers don't low ball him, and there really isn't a reason for them to do that, they have a pretty decent chance at re-signing him

[xBulletproof]

These are the projected cap space teams as of August 1st by Spotrac:

Houston Rockets - $70.1 million
Detroit Pistons - $62.9 million
Indiana Pacers - $53.1 million
San Antonio Spurs - $46.3 million
Utah Jazz - $33.4 million
Oklahoma City Thunder - $32 million
Orlando Magic - $31.7 million
Cleveland Cavaliers - $25.1 million
Memphis Grizzlies - $19.8 million
Charlotte Hornets - $19.7 million
Los Angeles Lakers - $19.1 million

I think the Donovan Mitchell trade changes those 2 teams cap space, as it was after Aug 1st. Either way, the Rockets have Şengün. Pistons have Duran. Jazz have Kessler. Charlotte just drafted Mark Williams. Magic have Wendall Carter. Plus one of these teams like the Spurs could end up with Wembanyama.

Unless a trade gets something significant, I would take the chance that you can get Myles back at your price, as opposed to trading him for a sack of nothing at this point. I'm not sure there will be a team with a combination of cap space, opening in the lineup and interest in him specifically and/or in spending big money on a center at this moment. Not to mention, what team has a better situation for Myles as well?

I wouldn't move him for a 2nd rounder, with expirings or something similar which is what I imagine teams will want to trade for a potential 30 game rental. At this point you may be stuck just hanging on to him, and see how it shakes out in the offseason unless you're willing to accept .... meh.

[basketballwacko2]

It's not a foregone conclusion imo

It's quite reasonable for Turner to want to see what other teams are willing to offer him, before choosing to commit with the Pacers, or anyone else

I think as long as Pacers don't low ball him, and there really isn't a reason for them to do that, they have a pretty decent chance at re-signing him

If they offer him a renegotiated extension giving him $32 million this year that's a $14 million raise in today's dollars then 4 more yrs at $30 million, and if he doesn't take that it means he's likely gone. If that's the case the FO should know pretty soon and the smart thing to do is move him for the most return now.

We have the money under the cap to give him a big raise this year and still have space to take a player from some other team, like Cam Reddish from NYK.

[countryboy667]

I can sympathize with Turner at being weary of all the trade speculation. But that doesn't keep me from thinking we traded the wrong big man.

Comments?

[Wizop]

I can sympathize with Turner at being weary of all the trade speculation. But that doesn't keep me from thinking we traded the wrong big man.

Comments?

Do you think the Kings would have traded Haliburton for an injured Turner? I think they would have insisted on Sabonis and I think we got more than adequate value back.

[Topofthekey]

Sabonis is the bigger flight risk than Turner if we had kept him imo

I remember reading somewhere his wife wanted him to play in California, or something like that

[Tom White]

I can sympathize with Turner at being weary of all the trade speculation. But that doesn't keep me from thinking we traded the wrong big man.

Comments?

No. I think they got it right.

[Scoot McGroot]

I can sympathize with Turner at being weary of all the trade speculation. But that doesn't keep me from thinking we traded the wrong big man.

Comments?

I'd take Haliburton and Turner (or whatever he might've returned in trade) over Sabonis and whatever Turner might've returned in trade this past summer (as there was no way he could've been traded last year at the deadline, and he wouldn't have had a ton of value at the summer).

Right now, You'd likely have Sabonis, Brogdon, Westbrook, 1 1st, and 2 2nds, instead of Hali, Turner, Nesmith, and Hield. And you'd have Westbrook playing, instead of bought out.

[8305]

How about this take. Myles is living his dream role. Meaningful offensive role while playing with a high level pg. Team is pretty good and nicely positioned to pay him. He might actually like to stay. Pacers know they have some nice leverage with 22/23 renegotiation option. Pacers looking to once again have Myles locked up on a team friendly deal. When Myles turns down the initial offer it leaks that Pacers would have to trade Myles to avoid losing him for nothing. Wherever Myles goes his role might not be as favorable as it is here possibly hurting his value this summer. I remember a similar narrative when Sabonis was a working out his last deal.