2024/25 College basketball / NBA draft thread

[Wizop]

Hollinger

Kam Jones and Johni Broome my last two guys available in Tier 6. All Tier 7 and below after that ...

[Wizop]

Color me surprised. Tony East was right that center wasn't a priority as the gang was coming back. Maybe Exhibit 10s coming

[Scoot McGroot]

2 guards. I would guarantee that one of RayJ or Quenton is gone. Even if Freeman is promoted and Peter takes that two way, you just have to have some positional balance in your two ways and get a F or C there to backfill...

[Wizop]

2 guards. I would guarantee that one of RayJ or Quenton is gone. Even if Freeman is promoted and Peter takes that two way, you just have to have some positional balance in your two ways and get a F or C there to backfill...

Q offers more in the short run but RayJ could offer more in the long haul and is more of a PG. I still hope we Exhibit 10 a center. Maybe this year can slide though and we wait a year to draft a backup center unless Jackson or Wiseman surprises me

[Scoot McGroot]

Ryan Nembhard signing with Dallas...

[Wizop]

Ryan Nembhard signing with Dallas...

Perhaps extra pressure had we signed him.

[Wizop]

Early signings are two-ways. I suspect we're only in the market for Exhibit 10s

[Pacers Forever]

Myles, Isiah Jax, Wiseman, Bryant, and James Johnson all are not listed on the Pacers payroll for the upcoming season. Tony Bradley is listed under contract for $2,940,876 next season as a team option. Freeman, Q Jax, and Ray J also have no salary because they were 2 ways.

I would think the first order or business is to cut Bradley because those $$ can be used better. Next sign Myles. After that sign Kam Jones pick #38 to the roster and summer league. Send Peter to Noblesville Boom and summer league to figure out what type of contract he deserves. Jettison or keep Ray J, Quenton, and Freeman.

So 11 under contract will be 10 after Bradley not signed. So Myles is player slot 11. Slot 12 is Jones. 13, and 14 have to be centers as Myles would be the only center.

[basketballwacko2]

This team seems to have a thing for guys in the 6'5'' range.

[JMaster5K]

Myles, Isiah Jax, Wiseman, Bryant, and James Johnson all are not listed on the Pacers payroll for the upcoming season. Tony Bradley is listed under contract for $2,940,876 next season as a team option. Freeman, Q Jax, and Ray J also have no salary because they were 2 ways.

I would think the first order or business is to cut Bradley because those $$ can be used better. Next sign Myles. After that sign Kam Jones pick #38 to the roster and summer league. Send Peter to Noblesville Boom and summer league to figure out what type of contract he deserves. Jettison or keep Ray J, Quenton, and Freeman.

So 11 under contract will be 10 after Bradley not signed. So Myles is player slot 11. Slot 12 is Jones. 13, and 14 have to be centers as Myles would be the only center.

Didn’t we trade Wiseman to Toronto? Where he was released & now an UFA? So, we would have to treat him like a market free agent? We have no Bird rights?

[Pacers Forever]

Myles, Isiah Jax, Wiseman, Bryant, and James Johnson all are not listed on the Pacers payroll for the upcoming season. Tony Bradley is listed under contract for $2,940,876 next season as a team option. Freeman, Q Jax, and Ray J also have no salary because they were 2 ways.

I would think the first order or business is to cut Bradley because those $$ can be used better. Next sign Myles. After that sign Kam Jones pick #38 to the roster and summer league. Send Peter to Noblesville Boom and summer league to figure out what type of contract he deserves. Jettison or keep Ray J, Quenton, and Freeman.

So 11 under contract will be 10 after Bradley not signed. So Myles is player slot 11. Slot 12 is Jones. 13, and 14 have to be centers as Myles would be the only center.

Didn’t we trade Wiseman to Toronto? Where he was released & now an UFA? So, we would have to treat him like a market free agent? We have no Bird rights?

Yes Wiseman is a free agent as you said.

[Wizop]

I'd hoped the draft would give us a backup center but with hindsight it is clear the team feels what we already have is better than what was available in the second round. I expect either RayJ or Q to be released to open a spot for a new two-way.

[Wizop]

Didn’t we trade Wiseman to Toronto? Where he was released & now an UFA? So, we would have to treat him like a market free agent? We have no Bird rights?

I'm expecting all free agent (and draftee) signings to be minimum contracts.

[JMaster5K]

Summer league is over,.. or at least winding down,... Thought I would ask for you opinions?

Based on what we've seen so far, what grades would you give teams for their draft? Who,.. what teams, do you think had the best draft? and the worst?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45585239/2025-nba-draft-grades-winners-losers-sleepers-best-picks-value-reaches-all-30-teams-classes

https://www.rotoballer.com/rss-slideshow/2025-nba-draft-report-card-final-grades-for-all-30-teams

[Pacers Forever]

Summer league is over,.. or at least winding down,... Thought I would ask for you opinions?

Based on what we've seen so far, what grades would you give teams for their draft? Who,.. what teams, do you think had the best draft? and the worst?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45585239/2025-nba-draft-grades-winners-losers-sleepers-best-picks-value-reaches-all-30-teams-classes

https://www.rotoballer.com/rss-slideshow/2025-nba-draft-report-card-final-grades-for-all-30-teams

I think the ESPN team grade was more genuine than the second from rotoballer who talked more about the doom and gloom of losing Tyrese. The ESPN report suggests there is opportunity for at least Kam to contribute. In a chart Facci posted Kam tied for about 3rd or 4th highest average points in summer league. I’m very happy with the players we got after seeing them play in summer league especially since they’re second round picks.

[Wizop]

I think the ESPN team grade

They had a depth chart with Bradley starting.

[Pacers Forever]

I think the ESPN team grade

They had a depth chart with Bradley starting.

I’m not talking about that idiocy. Their chart also had Furphy at guard and Q at forward. I’m talking about the grade on the rookie draft selections in their article link JMaster5K posted.

[JMaster5K]

Summer league is over,.. or at least winding down,... Thought I would ask for you opinions?

Based on what we've seen so far, what grades would you give teams for their draft? Who,.. what teams, do you think had the best draft? and the worst?

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45585239/2025-nba-draft-grades-winners-losers-sleepers-best-picks-value-reaches-all-30-teams-classes

https://www.rotoballer.com/rss-slideshow/2025-nba-draft-report-card-final-grades-for-all-30-teams

I think the ESPN team grade was more genuine than the second from rotoballer who talked more about the doom and gloom of losing Tyrese. The ESPN report suggests there is opportunity for at least Kam to contribute. In a chart Facci posted Kam tied for about 3rd or 4th highest average points in summer league. I’m very happy with the players we got after seeing them play in summer league especially since they’re second round picks.

I agree with your comparison of the two sets of grades. The ESPN article is better than the rotoballer analysis. I picked those 2, simply because they listed the draft picks by team. Just wanted to get a sense of what each team did as opposed to each selection?

a few quick thoughts, IMO,...

BRK's picks as a group, just seems weird, but I'm not down on it like the sportscasters. BRK for the last couple of years has seriously lacked playmaking. Again, IMO, they drafted 4 ball handlers/playmakers, I have to believe, with the hopes that at least 2 of those develop into part of the rotation. They should be planning to again have a good pick in the lottery in 26 to begin to fill out their team, once they have a better idea of who the playmakers are going to be?

Charlotte,... I think McNeeley will play before Kneuppel?

I don't think NOP deserve an F?... Fears was, if I remember correctly, the 2nd youngest player in the draft? He was still 18 on draft night? Yeah,.. I don't think he helps this year, in any more than occasional spot duty, but he has a good start to become a defensive nightmare for opponents. Give him a year to understudy with Herb Jones,... and the Pels are very likely to have a playoff worthy defense, at the least?

OKC- nailed their draft,... Sorber in there system is an incredible fit. and Indiana HS legend Barnhizer was an overlooked steal, particularly in the OKC offense, where fast decision making & efficient shooting are keys.

Phoenix has been getting a 'B' from most analysts,.. but again, for their team with their picks, to me that is a low grade?... This draft will go a long way to giving them the talented depth to compete with anyone. Fleming & Brea are both shooters, who fit the Suns style of play. Fleming can also give them the big wing defense that has been a bit lacking recently.

SAC got exceptional talent & value in Clifford & Raynaud,... but their fit is a question mark & they both overlap, position-wise, with other very talented players on the roster? Great, general talent picks, but this roster just gives me questions?

SAS,... they to me, had the best draft of any team. They now have, in Harper, a lead guard that should pair very nicely with Wemby for the next decade+,... I was a bit higher on Bryant than most,... but thought he was legitimately a top 8 pick. His primary focus has always been defense & which doesn't show up as much in stats. He is an almost elite,.. + level NBA athlete, that is a real PF, with the ability to switch 1 - small ball 5, defending almost anyone, and a consistent 3 shooter, with a good handle & passing skills. For me, the Spurs are now positioned with a full team around Wemby that can grow & develop together much the same way OKC did. 1 more learning year,... a decent 26 draft choice,... and this team should be ready to start making runs in the playoffs.