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Post#21 » by notque » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:38 pm

Crawford would be horrible for us. I could see him being a huge participant of a lot of teams, but not ours.

Absolutely not. The only people on that team we should have any interest in are Jared Jefferies, and David Lee.
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Post#22 » by ahartleyvu » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:52 pm

Jared Jefferies!?

IU fan or what?

His contract is horrid.
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Post#23 » by fdefore » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:52 pm

PacerGuy wrote:I see what you're trying to do, but I do not trust Q's back (uninsurable health issue there), & his production is way off t/y.


Q has 3yrs left, Murphy & Tinsley have 4yrs left. most of us would be happy to let murphy just sit on the bench so why not pay someone less to do that?

besides i think the back is less of an issue as we'll be using him more off the bench and not relying on him for heavy minutes.
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Post#24 » by Luv those Knicks » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:29 pm

Just so you guys know, there are some Knick fans who want the Crawfords, the Curry's, the Zachs and the Isiah's - out of town, and they'd move crawford for expirings - and the first round pick is like icing on the cake.

Other knick fans (of which I'm part), see that Crawford is currently our best player and would prefer to keep him. He's been running the point well, not turning the ball over and scoring in bunches lately.


Isiah likes crawford, so I don't think a deal is likely, but you'll find a very mixed reaction on the Knicks board - some want to move craw for next to nothing, some want to move him cause he has value now and some want to keep him.
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Post#25 » by knicksNOTslick » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:15 pm

FreeRon wrote:You guys might as well take the first out, we're not allowed to trade it if we wanted to. If Tinsley's value is so low that it costs us to get rid of him, we'll buy out his contract rather than giving up a pick. I might consider Marquis for Crawford, but I still probably wouldn't do it because of the attitude problems I've heard he's had on top of his inconsistency. Basically everything that makes Tinsley a negative Crawford has going against him to a lesser extent.

Crawford doesn't have attitude problems. He's very coachable. It's just hard to change the bad habits he has on the court, like hi streetball type of game. As much as I want him traded, he's slowly improving though. You could see he has a career year this year and is picking up the role that should've been Marbury's.


Also, LTK is right, there are different opinions of Crawford. Inconsistent players get inconsistent support. I, for one, want him traded because he has value now. BUT... out of our "big" four, he's the least player I would trade if I was Isiah.

Trade Curry first, then Marbury, then Zach, then Crawford. That's the order. All of these guys should be moved but it shouldn't just be a firesale.

Crawford might not fit you guys type of play though. But if you need a scorer, Crawford can get hot pretty quickly. If he's content with just shooting, he can take you out of games. But if he plays smart and drives a lot, then he's basically unstoppable. The guy is also very flashy and can be a fan favorite. Take it for what it is, but if Crawford was smartest, he could have been like Reggie and Rip Hamilton. I still think Crawford and Jones for Daniels and Tinsley is a bad deal for the Knicks without a 1st rounder, considering Crawford's slowly increasing value.
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Post#26 » by notque » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:25 am

I just don't think there's a deal in here unless Isiah is so gaga for Tinsley he'll trade lee.

I think the Knicks need a real point, so I don't see how he turns that deal down with JJ the guy to make the cap work.
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Post#27 » by Grang33r » Mon Jan 21, 2008 4:05 am

Pacers, a rebuilding team, to give up a 1st rounder... LOL

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