Another O'Neal to Cavs rumor pops up

[xxSnEaKyPxx]

Cavs wont give up their first to get JO, its to much of a risk for them. Wallace and Ilgauskas were fighting back spasms last season. They dont need 3 bigs who can get injured at anytime....

The most i can see them offering is expirings, or if it was a 3 team deal i could see something like this...

pacers get...
wally szczerbiak
damon jones
brandon wright
19th pick

cavs get..
oneal
14th pick

warriors get..
varejao
11th pick

pacers get 17.4m in expirings, a young big in wright with a lot of potential, and draft someone like mario chalmers at 19.. I know some of you wont want chalmers but he could be a solid pg, shoots the ball well, a very solid defender, and a smart player....

I know you guys are gonna throw a fit over this type of deal, but i just dont see jo having that much value. But to me that would be a good package for him.....

Would you like us to also throw in Granger? Maybe next years 1st too? Give me a break.

[Da_James_Gang]

James gang

I don't think you are being a homer or troll at all. The fact is most Pacer supporters don't want to give JO up for a bag of chips and soda like the Grizzlies did with Gasol. Expiring contracts are nice, but like I said on another thread, we would want as solid young player/draft pick for JO. Two years ago JO was a 19/9/2.5 block per game guy and was healthy. If he is healthy again, like the reports say he could be a 17/8 guy, and we aren't about to just give him to a division rival.

We have Jeff Foster for the time being, so Verajo won't excite many. He is very similar to Foster, although he doesn't rebound as well. There isn't room on the roster for two bigs as offensively limited as them. Wally, Damon and Z don't figure in the plans of a rebuilding team either and Ben Wallace is public enemy number one. You guys also can not trade your first round pick. As I see it, if you want JO you would have to be willing to send Gibson our way to get the conversation started, and I don't see you willing to do that.

Thanks man, i had a feeling whatever i posted on here was gonna get smash haha. My first time on realgm and a rude welcome haha. But i have no hard feelings, but i see where your coming..... i'd seriously didnt think it was that bad of a deal but from your prospective i guess it was. I was talking to a pacers fan on the cavs message boards(not on realgm) and we were talking about some deals you guys might be able to pull off for jo. And i told him maybe hinrich/gooden for oneal if the bulls draft rose. Then you guys draft someone like arthur at 11 who could turn into a good scoring big man....

[joew8302]

No problem, I know as a Pacer fan I throw out some ideas on other board and get crucified. Every fan of their team is looking to get a deal it seems though, and some fans feel disrespected when they feel they are given the short end of the stick. We had a Blazer fan come on here at the end of the year and make a bunch of rediculous lowball offers for Danny Granger, which ticked off many around here.

With the rate Gasol went for I understand where you are coming from with the expiring contracts. I just don't think Indiana is ready to give up a guy such as JO for just expiring contracts like the Grizz did, especially considering they would help out a team within the division, by not only giving them JO, but allowing them to clear out dead weight. Outside of next years first and Daniel Gibson I don't think Cleveland is a good trading partner for JO.