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Camby to LAC for a Second Round Pick?

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Re: Camby to LAC for a Second Round Pick? 

Post#21 » by CableKC » Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:58 am

MillerTime101 wrote:Your not understanding and I dont know how I can make this more clear, they have been trying to trade him for sometime now. They were not told yesterday they have to get below the cap, do you honestly think they did not look ahead and see this coming?? What is it you think GM's do all day?

Okay...clearly I do not understand what you're trying to say here.....are you simply saying that the Nuggets should have gotten more for him?

The obvious answer is yes...they should have gotten more for him. But we now know that they should have probably traded him sometime of the last 1-2 seasons so that they weren't put in a position to accept the only deal that they could accept.
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Re: Camby to LAC for a Second Round Pick? 

Post#22 » by MillerTime101 » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:18 am

CableKC wrote:
MillerTime101 wrote:Your not understanding and I dont know how I can make this more clear, they have been trying to trade him for sometime now. They were not told yesterday they have to get below the cap, do you honestly think they did not look ahead and see this coming?? What is it you think GM's do all day?

Okay...clearly I do not understand what you're trying to say here.....are you simply saying that the Nuggets should have gotten more for him?

The obvious answer is yes...they should have gotten more for him. But we now know that they should have probably traded him sometime of the last 1-2 seasons so that they weren't put in a position to accept the only deal that they could accept.


Thats the oposite of what I am saying :roll:

Im saying they could NOT have gotten more for him and, they did not HAVE to do this deal becasue of their current situation. They could have made a deal 2 weeks ago wtih one of the half dozen teams that had cap room but they did not becasue they were not getting any good offers, why were they not getting good offers you ask? Becasue Camby is not that good. That is my point.
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Re: Camby to LAC for a Second Round Pick? 

Post#23 » by CableKC » Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:11 am

MillerTime101 wrote:
CableKC wrote:
MillerTime101 wrote:Your not understanding and I dont know how I can make this more clear, they have been trying to trade him for sometime now. They were not told yesterday they have to get below the cap, do you honestly think they did not look ahead and see this coming?? What is it you think GM's do all day?

Okay...clearly I do not understand what you're trying to say here.....are you simply saying that the Nuggets should have gotten more for him?

The obvious answer is yes...they should have gotten more for him. But we now know that they should have probably traded him sometime of the last 1-2 seasons so that they weren't put in a position to accept the only deal that they could accept.


Thats the oposite of what I am saying :roll:

Im saying they could NOT have gotten more for him and, they did not HAVE to do this deal becasue of their current situation. They could have made a deal 2 weeks ago wtih one of the half dozen teams that had cap room but they did not becasue they were not getting any good offers, why were they not getting good offers you ask? Becasue Camby is not that good. That is my point.

Okay...got it....you didn't mention anything about this offseason...I was thinking that Camby should have been moved over the last couple of Trade Deadlines.

Good point...I didn't think about trying to move Camby to the Warriors or the Sixers. But I guess Mullin didn't think about approaching the Nuggets ( which would have made more sense then getting Maggette ) or vice versa from the Nuggets end.
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Re: Camby to LAC for a Second Round Pick? 

Post#24 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:52 pm

I'm guessing all the other teams that had cap space were simply hoping for Baron Davis or Elton Brand, and possibly a Gilbert Arenas moreso than a Marcus Camby. Once the Sixers spent their money on Brand, the Warriors got rebuffed in their offer to Arenas and Brand (and then spent their money on Maggette), and the Clippers spent their money on Davis, and had some money left over from brand signing in Philly, Camby was next on the list of valuable commodities, yet Memphis was one of the only teams that still had significant cash under the cap, and they had already said they're not going to spend their cap space this offseason, but rather next or the year after.


Rather than sending Camby and Nene out for large expiring deals (the only possibility might've been Marbury, but Nene's enough negative that he would've shut down that deal, just like Martin would've) they cleared the cap space immediately. They got under the luxury tax this year, thus saving them almost $20 million in salary, and earning them the roughly $6-8 million they'd get in luxury tax redistribution payments. If they moved Camby and Nene for Marbury, they would've lost roughly $26 million this year, and then saved $33.4 million over the lifetime of Nene's contract, but Denver would've already been under the luxury tax just from Iverson's contract expiring.


I think, ultimately, they did the right thing financially, but should've gotten back a future 1st rounder in return and taken on a small salary this year if they needed to. However, I think they just needed the financial benefit.


Apparently the Clippers were driving a hard bargain. They apparently demanded a Knicks 1st rounder, $3 million in cash, and for the Knicks to take on the last year of Brevin Knight's deal as well. The Nuggets didn't have to pay anything in cash, picks, or taking on any salary in return.

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