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Pacers @ Detroit - 12/12: The Launching Point

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Re: Pacers @ Detroit - 12/12: The Launching Point 

Post#41 » by TJFordisGod » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:05 pm

Dunthreevy wrote:
TJFordisGod wrote:
kdawg531 wrote:TJ cannot run the half court offense. I know you have some kind of man-love fascination with him, but you gotta do what's best for the team.


Wow that was uncalled for and rude. Anyways, he can run a half court offense and he has been doing it in Indiana. He jogs up the floor, the offense sets up and he breaks down the opposing D creating open shots. And how many times do u see him running pick and pop with rasho through the half court offense? They run it so smoothly. So whats best for the team is TJ not Jack


Uncalled for? No, it's about time someone said it. Rude? Maybe, but have you ever heard of the old saying 'the truth hurts'?

And mentioning Jack missing that game winner against Boston is pretty ridiculous. If it wasn't for JJ's clutch free-throws, there wouldn't have been the possibility of OT. At least the game winner that he missed was a good shot that just didn't go down and not something that was forced and completely idiotic. TJ has taken a shot to determine the end of a game three times this year and guess what the outcomes of those shots have been... 0 for 3! Your little crush on the man is beyond obnoxious. I've tried to bite my tongue about it for a while now but it's really quite annoying. According to you TJ Ford can do no wrong, when the reality of things is that he makes a lot of mistakes and it's starting to look like there was a legit reason for Toronto going with Calderon instead.


Man-Love fascination is the truth? Far from it. Ive admitted TJ can do wrong and admitted at times he may get a bit shot happy and tends to try to take over games. But he does a lot more good in the games then he does bad. And mentioning JJ's game winning misses was not ridiculous. He stated that Jack should be in the game in the 4th and not TJ, I gave an example why jack should not be in the game. Contested three pointers for the win? And a wide open air ball for the win? 2 game winners in one game failed. And thats not even the main reason. The main reason is that most of the times when jack is in the game in the 4th instead of ford, everyone tends to play iso because there is limited ball movement which leads to poor shots. Why not just keep your starters in at the end of the game? Isn't there a reason why they are "your starters".
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Re: Pacers @ Detroit - 12/12: The Launching Point 

Post#42 » by davitogreat » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:50 pm

kdawg531 wrote:TJ cannot run the half court offense. I know you have some kind of man-love fascination with him, but you gotta do what's best for the team.


I would say this is not an accurate statement. TJ has shown the ability to run halfcourt offenses multiple times. He did that for the Toronto Raptors. I personally think the problem with the pacers right now has to do with the turnovers. Obies game strategy of getting the ball to the bigs at the top of the key and then using them to make plays isnt the best strategy. We might have one of the best passing bigs in the league in Rasho but it still leads to alot of turnovers. I dont think we should abandon this strategy but i think we should reduce the amount of times we execute this strategy in games.

One other thing i noticed is that it seems the Pacers dont spread the floor very well. Especially considering the fact that they have a very fast pg like TJ. I watched some Toronto games last year and the year before and the way they spaced the floor for TJ to drive in and kick out was marvelous. The pacers probably don't do this due to the fact we don't have a consistent outside threat apart from Danny Granger.

In the end i don't think people should be ripping TJ right now. Yes i know some times he is frustrating to watch but the way this offense is set up with the bigs making the plays and players like TJ moving without the ball(which is something he hasn't really done) its no surprise he is struggling. All we should be is patient right now because i believe this team is better than their record.

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