Obie needs to be fired.

[wenzi]

This talk about O'Brien needing to be fired is ridiculous. I've been following the Pacers recently and I think he's doing a great job getting the most he can out of a patchwork roster.

I'm not a big fan of TJ Ford as a starting NBA point guard. He's one of the worst defensive point guards in the NBA and doesn't run point how I like to see the position played. His whole game depends on him getting his first. His jumper has to fall, unfortunately he's not a great jumpshooter. That's why he isn't a very consistent player. There will be games where his jumper is falling and he will tear things up and get assists, but there will be more games where he can't guard anyone, his jumper doesn't fall and he does nothing to help his team. I would get used to seeing Jarrett Jack and of course TJ Ford will start complaining.

Other than him I like this Pacers squad. They have something to build on. No need to go firing coach now, that's not the answer to anything. At times they show signs of playing solid ball with a roster that has no business doing so.

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[Train7492]

I would have to say that this loss is on OB just like a few others. If something is not done I know that we are in tank the season mode. You just don't bench the guy that is playing the best all around game when the game is on the line IF YOU ARE WANTING TO WIN, which I'm kinda second guessing that. If the fans see it how does Bird not see unless that is what he is wanting to. How do you let them go on a 19-0 run and not make any changes????????? Your guess is as good as mine.

[Grang33r]

I would have to say that this loss is on OB just like a few others. If something is not done I know that we are in tank the season mode. You just don't bench the guy that is playing the best all around game when the game is on the line IF YOU ARE WANTING TO WIN, which I'm kinda second guessing that. If the fans see it how does Bird not see unless that is what he is wanting to. How do you let them go on a 19-0 run and not make any changes????????? Your guess is as good as mine.

While i agree, but looking at the entire picture, were we lucky to go on that huge run and take the lead? The Bucks had like a 20 point lead in this game at one point. They controlled play for most of the game. Indiana got off on a huge run and blew it. Even if we had won, i don't think we had deserved the win. I think it would have been nice to stay close that late in the game, but the Bucks outplayed Indiana for like 38 minutes. They deserved the win.

[Miller4ever]

I don't get why so much is put onto the coach's shoulders.

Imagine you're a coach. Player A, B, and C all play the same position. It's the last minute of the game. Player A is the starter, but he's been weak on defense. Player B has had to defend Player A's opposing counterpart because of size matchups. Player C has had the hot hand the whole game. If you play Player A and lose the game, it's because his defense sucked and you should've played Player B. If you try to ride Player C's hot hand and lose, it's because you didn't sub in the starter. If you stick with Player B and lose, it's your fault again because he either isn't the starter or he didn't have the offensive rhythm Player C had going.

There also many other factors that a coach can't control. Let's say Player D has not been playing good D (ironically). He's let the other guy get the best of him when moving through screens, or maybe he's getting beat in the post by the same spin move, or any other consistent failure to perform. As the coach, you have seen Player D perform up to standards in the past, and you know he has the ability to put the clamps on. So you call timeout, and you let him stay in after you tell him what he's doing wrong. Now if he doesn't listen to you, or he fails again, you get the blame.

I'm not saying Obie's perfect. I'm saying I trust he knows what he's doing, and he has the team's best interest at heart. Someone on another thread was already calling for the team to go into "tank mode" because of the team's current performance.

Seriously, asking for the coach's head on a platter when we still haven't fully meshed and implemented the system to its full extent is understandable, because he's coach and he's calling the shots. However, if a new president were to take office and the economy went down before he got to implement any economic plans of his own, it's not fair to put the blame on him, but it's the easiest thing to do.

Again, I'm not an O'Brien fan. He got hired, and I was not looking forward to the double-edged sword he was bringing in with his 3-point chuck-happy offense. I will say this: at this point, it's better to stick with Obie through the end of the season, because we're still adjusting to each other as a team. Call off the dogs.

[Train7492]

The problem is OB is not going to take us anywhere so why stick with him till the end of the year. He runs a offense where you chuck up 3 pointers and we have maybe 3 to 4 guys on the team that should even be shooting the 3 ball. When the game is close you need to be taking it to the basket and scoring or get fouled not having guys that can't shoot spotting up on the 3 point line. Coach the team tell them there roles and if they don't like it sit them on the bench. Just because they are pro's don't mean you can't tell them what to do, that is the coaches job not to just kneel by the scores tabel.

[Miller4ever]

But how do you know that's what Obie's telling them?

Every coach advocates taking it inside and getting a foul. Obie just likes using the 3-pointer as a weapon that is available to everybody (including Jeff Foster, I guess, haha) whenever there's an open look. Obviously, he hates it when anybody takes any shot contested, including 3's. The plays drawn up at the end always have a drive inside by TJ or Danny as the first option, then a kick out if necessary. If the play ends up with someone shooting a 3-pointer with a hand in their face, it's a lack of execution.