Pacers active in finding their PG

greenway84 · Post #1 » by **greenway84** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:19 am

By: Alex Kennedy

The Indiana Pacers were actively shopping the tenth overall pick for a point guard heading into the draft but after talks for Jonny Flynn, Eric Maynor, Darren Collison, George Hill, Ty Lawson, and others broke down, they decided to draft Paul George. But don't be surprised if the team continues talks in the coming days to fill that vacant point guard spot.

Sources say that while the Pacers have inquired about several free agent point guards, the team is first looking at what is available in terms of trades. In the days leading up to the draft, Indiana was willing to package Troy Murphy with the tenth overall pick in an effort to get a deal done so the Pacers are serious about finding their point guard of the future. Don't be surprised if Indiana resumes trade talks with several teams and eventually lands their floor general.

Thats all he said about the Pacers but theirs more to the article if you want to read it: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16602

No real surprise here. It looks like Bird is gathering up the last few pieces to the puzzle before 2011 draft and free agency. Hopefully we will have the pieces to lure a free agent next summer. Also be able to find a coach willing to coach a rebuilt team.

Legendary 33 · Post #2 » by **Legendary 33** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 9:08 am

Good stuff. I think Johnny Flynn would be a pretty good point guard to run with George/Granger.

DWCP2 · Post #3 » by **DWCP2** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 1:42 pm

Legendary 33 wrote:Good stuff. I think Johnny Flynn would be a pretty good point guard to run with George/Granger.

Only problem is that they'd want George or Granger one to get him.

I honestly think the Pacers could be better off looking for a temp solution, or keeping Ford and letting him walk, knowing the 2011 PG class is going to have quality in it.

IndyMac · Post #4 » by **IndyMac** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:01 pm

I agree, and I think that's what Larry is going to do. He'll trade any of the veteran, expiring guys in a heartbeat for a serviceable PG. But I don't think he's willing to trade any of the young core guys unless he can get a pretty good PG back. If he can't get a trade that he likes, he's not going to force one just to do it; he'll wait until they have cap space after next season.

And that is what I want the Pacers to do. There's no reason to turn this 3 year rebuilding plan into a 5 or 6 year one going into year 3.

greenway84 · Post #5 » by **greenway84** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 6:37 pm

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agreed. one thing bird is not is impatient

Wizop · Post #6 » by **Wizop** » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:44 pm

I think we're looking for something between serviceable and all star. they proved on draft night that they aren't going to panic to pick up someone who isn't a starter in our eyes.

DeeJay · Post #7 » by **DeeJay** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 9:17 am

I would really like to get Flynn. He has a good amount of potential and as Legendary 33 said, he would be good to run with Granger and George.

I reckon it would be good if somehow we could get Flynn by trading away Dunleavy and/or Murphy.
Not a big fan of them both.

basketballwacko2 · Post #8 » by **basketballwacko2** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 12:39 pm

greenway84 wrote:^
agreed. one thing bird is not is impatient

I keep seeing people suggesting we deal Dunleavy for Jose Calderon. :lol:

The one thing we don't want to do is take an average talent like JC for our PG and give up an expiring. I don't want to do Tony Parker because he'll walk, although I love Parker. I don't think he'll stay in Indiana, so why give away a Rush or a #1 pick to get him. If Parker was on Calderons contract or if JC was on Parkers contract I might be willing to go for either! :lol:

I like Hinrich for Dunleavy if we can work a 2nd trade to move TJ someplace. I have seen several Warriors fans suggesting TJ, and Rush plus a pick for Monta Ellis. Ellis is a scoring machine. I'm thinking Dunleavy for Hinrich and then the Ellis deal and were set for the season with.

C Hibbert
PF Murph
SF Granger
SG Ellis
PG Hinrich

With George, D. Jones, S. Jones, McBob, Foster as bench.

That's not bad. Probably not gonna happen.

greenway84 · Post #9 » by **greenway84** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:18 pm

I was with you on your first paragraph but then instantly disagree with paragraph 2.

Parker ONLY if he resigns and even then Im not a big fan

Jose Calderon only f the Pacers get sold, and move to a far away country

Hinrich would be a great 3 guard, but not with the amount of money he is owed. His defense is great but I dont think hes a pg

No to Monta....I know its easy to fall in love with a player like him, but hes a one dimensional stat stuffer. We have one of those in Murphy. These type of players are fun to watch but are not winners.

Collison, G Hill, Harris, Lawson, are the PGs I would trade for....maybe Felton if the deal was right on. Other wsie I will sign a cheap PG and wait till next year. Im really starting to like Livingston on the cheap

Indy2thaWindy · Post #10 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Tue Jun 29, 2010 3:25 pm

If anyone likes Hinrich to Indiana, read this first.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1025436

Moooose · Post #11 » by **Moooose** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:49 am

I'd take HInrich over Parker, Flynn, etc. because it's the most feasible and the "safest". I mean it's the only proposal wherein we're most likely not going to alter the "core" of this team. Just an expiring and maybe a future pick, the Wizards got him for almost nothing so i think taking in a player like Dunleavy would be just fine, if they should ask for more, maybe add a 2nd rounder.
Hinrich could play pg, he was forced to play off-ball in Chicago but i think he's a natural point.
He would fit Obie's offense and the team chemistry, IMO.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #12 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 9:43 am

He has always struggled playing on-ball. Bulls never played him on-ball for that reason. That is why you always saw Hinrich in with players like Crawford, Gordon, Rose, and Murray. Everytime Hinrich was out on the court Bulls had to play small so they could have someone who could handle and penatrate. Only way Kirk is effective on the Pacers is playing at the same time with TJ. The cost of having him being effective would result in an almost automatic loss. I don't like takin L's especially at the exspense of helping out, aging role players we have no future plans for. We would also have to pay Hinrich another 9 million the next season. Instead why not pursue Shaun Livingston and trade Dunleavy for a pick or a young backup 5 or anything productive. Kirk Hinrich would be nothing less of counterproductive and setting us back an extra year.

greenway84 · Post #13 » by **greenway84** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:24 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:If anyone likes Hinrich to Indiana, read this first.

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1025436

NO! a move like this is impatient and rushing to get a PG before the season starts. No reason to do this. be patient and if we cant get our starter this year just wait. hell we waited this long.

Indy2thaWindy · Post #14 » by **Indy2thaWindy** » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:48 pm

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I'm 100% against Hinrich coming to Indiana.

Moooose · Post #15 » by **Moooose** » Thu Jul 1, 2010 7:18 am

^ Yeah, i understand. But with the Pacers having not much to offer with expirings (some injured and/or had a bad year last season), future picks which are probably 2nd rounders, and fillers, do we really have a shot in landing an above average PG thru trades? We're not going to have that PG thru FA signings so it appears that we don't really have that much option other than making trades.
I believe Rush could be packaged once a good deal comes along but i doubt Larry would give him up unless we're gonna have a legit starting PG.
I'm not a Hinrich fan but i believe we can have him for a not-so-extravagant offer. It's the most practical scenario i can think of, basically without altering the "core" we have right now.