Ball don't lie: Pacers and Sixers should trade

[Grang33r]

I know Kelly Dwyer is a Pacers fan but not sure what he was doing prior to writing this blog up. I personally think this is a brutal trade for the Pacers.

So I think the Pacers should send Mike Dunleavy, T.J. Ford(notes), Jeff Foster(notes) (all expiring contracts) and Paul George(notes) to Philadelphia -- along with their first-round pick from next year (top three protected, losing said protection the year after) -- for Elton Brand, Andre Iguodala and Marreese Speights(notes).

There's a good chance fans of both teams will hate this deal. There's a better chance Philadelphia fans will hate it the most.

They're giving up their best player for the type of thing that continually fails to stir the optimism of fan bases, but is often times the best way out of the dumpster: draft picks and cap space.

This deal clears $20 million in cap space from Philly's books next summer, leaving it as a major player in the summer almost regardless of where the CBA hammers down. The team could have two lottery selections to work with next season, enough cap space to restart and the retained talents of Louis Williams(notes), Evan Turner(notes), Spencer Hawes(notes), George and Jrue Holliday. It could have even more cap space if the team decides Hawes is worth passing on.

To me, this is a harder sell for Indiana. It blows their cap space for next summer, and leaves them without a lottery pick for 2010 (in George) and 2011.

But with Darren Collison(notes), Granger, Iguodala, Speights (if you don't know, you will soon), Tyler Hansbrough(notes) and Roy Hibbert(notes) on hand, the Pacers will have a young, formidable team. They'll be going from league-worst production at point guard and one of the wing positions to borderline All-Star work from A.I., and not too far off (seriously) when it comes to Collison. Don't underestimate that upgrade. Toss in Speights to finish inside and the improving high-post game from Hibbert, and you have a team.

Whole article- http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-262631

Thoughts?

[cavsfan_osiris]

Speights really hasn't done anything in the NBA. Maybe he will blossom, but he doesn't have sky-high value. High value for Speights would be the only reason this trade makes sense for the Pacers and I mean SKY HIGH value.

Pacers give up $20 million in expirings, a 1st rounder and take on Brand's contract? huh? and really what's so great about Iggy? He's an overpaid jumpshooter who can't shoot.

Just a terrible idea from someone fooling around with a trade machine, nothing to see here.

[Boneman2]

Speights really hasn't done anything in the NBA. Maybe he will blossom, but he doesn't have sky-high value. High value for Speights would be the only reason this trade makes sense for the Pacers and I mean SKY HIGH value.

Pacers give up $20 million in expirings, a 1st rounder and take on Brand's contract? huh? and really what's so great about Iggy? He's an overpaid jumpshooter who can't shoot.

Just a terrible idea from someone fooling around with a trade machine, nothing to see here.

.... stated like it was coming from a Pacer fan, well put.

[Scoot McGroot]

Granger, Iggy, and Brand would combine to make $40 million this year alone. That's 2/3 of the salary cap. That's over halfway to the luxury tax limit. It's hard to build a team around those 3 guys with such strict financial limits, especially when you realize that all 3 will still be on the books when Hibbert, Rush, and Price will all hit their extension year. That could easily be a luxury tax team, and I don't think Granger and Iggy are a great enough combo to do it for.

[Boneman2]

^^^ I almost quoted your response from the trade board. This was a nice condensed version though.

And you're absolutely right

[the_warden]

Seems horrible for the Pacers to give up a first in that deal.

[Moooose]

As a Pacer fan, i don't like it. We'll be losing flexibility, and a part of me thinks Speights will be in the same mold as Chris Wilcox.

[colts2004]

lol, NO!!!!!!

[lovecats]

I know Kelly Dwyer is a Pacers fan but not sure ndsi m3 ds real nintendo what he was doing prior to writing this blog up. I personally think this is a brutal trade for the Pacers.

So I think the Pacers should send Mike Dunleavy, T.J. Ford(notes), Jeff Foster(notes) (all expiring contracts) and Paul George(notes) to Philadelphia -- along with their first-round pick from next year (top three protected, losing said protection the year after) -- for Elton Brand, Andre Iguodala and Marreese Speights(notes).

There's a good chance fans of both teams will hate this deal. There's a better chance Philadelphia fans will hate it the most.

They're giving up their best player for the type of thing that continually fails to stir the optimism of fan bases, but is often times the best way out of the dumpster: draft picks and cap space.

This deal clears $20 million in cap space from Philly's books next summer, leaving it as a major player in the summer almost regardless of where the CBA hammers down. The team could have two lottery selections to work with next season, enough cap space to restart and the retained talents of Louis Williams(notes), Evan Turner(notes), Spencer Hawes(notes), George and Jrue Holliday. It could have even more cap space if the team decides Hawes is worth passing on.

To me, this is a harder sell for Indiana. It blows their cap space for next summer, and leaves them without a lottery pick for 2010 (in George) and 2011.

But with Darren Collison(notes), Granger, Iguodala, Speights (if you don't know, you will soon), Tyler Hansbrough(notes) and Roy Hibbert(notes) on hand, the Pacers will have a young, formidable team. They'll be going from league-worst production at point guard and one of the wing positions to borderline All-Star work from A.I., and not too far off (seriously) when it comes to Collison. Don't underestimate that upgrade. Toss in Speights to finish inside and the improving high-post game from Hibbert, and you have a team.

Whole article- http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba-262631

Thoughts?

Should trade? don't think so

[crosswalkryan]

and really what's so great about Iggy? He's an overpaid jumpshooter who can't shoot.

O rly?
8th in the league in dunks
19th in league in FT attempts right behind PP

I'd say he has a decent slashing game. Actually, that is his game...not really a jump shooter.