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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#41 » by TSC25 » Tue Feb 1, 2011 4:56 pm

I would had liked to have seen Byron Scott given a chance with this team,and had fired O'brien last year,Mike Brown is a players coach so he'd be a good fit,as for Mark Jackson he was alot like having a coach on the court when he played so he might be a good fit,and if we did get Mark it might not be a bad idea to get Ewing as an asst coach to work with Roy.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#42 » by Scoot McGroot » Tue Feb 1, 2011 10:37 pm

autissium wrote:Bill Walton.


Without even speaking towards his actual coaching ability, I don't think his health would allow him or encourage him to coach.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#43 » by dennis_mora91 » Tue Apr 5, 2011 12:05 pm

Now that Jerry Sloan its possible back to be coach ... What do you think about him to Pacers?
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#44 » by Starkiller » Tue Apr 5, 2011 12:19 pm

dennis_mora91 wrote:Now that Jerry Sloan its possible back to be coach ... What do you think about him to Pacers?


Without thinking I'd take Sloan.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#45 » by dennis_mora91 » Tue Apr 5, 2011 12:23 pm

Me too.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#46 » by Moooose » Fri Apr 8, 2011 6:22 am

^ And re-make the "Stockton to Malone" thing into "Collison to Hansbrough"!.. sounds odd.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#47 » by Scoot McGroot » Sat Apr 9, 2011 2:07 am

I'm wondering if Calipari could be an option, if for nothing other than his connections to Worldwide Wes.

We're looking at an offseason with massive cap space, but unlikely to ever be able to lure a major free agent here (not that there's really any left this off-season). New report's about Calipari looking to make it to the NBA again. We've got a coach spot available, and possibly a GM spot as well. Calipari could be a fit to make us attractive to free agents.


I'm not saying I like it, but it just seems odd.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#48 » by Boneman2 » Sat Apr 9, 2011 6:09 am

Dolan would fire Dantoni if Calipari showed interest. Phil Jackson is suppose to retire, so LA could be a possibility too. The Nets might be another team interested in rehiring him, how ironic.

I'm not saying it couldn't happen, but I believe John will be very selective if he returns. My guess is there will be a bidding war for his services.

I am still pulling for the combo of Walsh/Pritchard/Brown/Bird (President/GM/Coach/Advisor).
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#49 » by Miller4ever » Sat Apr 9, 2011 6:16 am

If we're talking about dream scenarios, why would Mike Brown be our guy?
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Post#50 » by Moooose » Sat Apr 9, 2011 8:26 am

Miller4ever wrote:If we're talking about dream scenarios, why would Mike Brown be our guy?


Ditto.
But i think asking the guys, i mean the players, first who they really want, would be better. The guys seem to love Vogel, but i still have doubts he'd be the head coach next season, well unless we go beyond the first round of the playoffs.
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Post#51 » by Boneman2 » Sat Apr 9, 2011 7:25 pm

Miller4ever wrote:If we're talking about dream scenarios, why would Mike Brown be our guy?


How is acquiring Walsh or Pritchard a dream? Both seem like logical candidates, there is nothing out of the ordinary with them that would elevate hiring them as a dream come true.

Also, Simon already said that one of Bird's options could involve him advising from his home in Florida.

Finally, the Pacers organization likes Mike Brown. He was here when our team was a contender, and we liked him then. He obviously has to get some credit in Cleveland too. The fact he was able to coach that roster to elite status was a remarkable job. I don't think the 44 game downswing can all be accredited to Lebron leaving. My point is galvanized by the fact the Heat can only muster 55 wins with their all-star trio. What might have happened if Wade and Bosh joined the 2009 Cavs that made a run at Jordan's Bulls & won 67 games? Even when the Bulls lost Jordan for a couple seasons, they didn't sink 44 games in the standings.

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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#52 » by paulgeorge24 » Sat Apr 9, 2011 8:34 pm

Boneman2 wrote:
Miller4ever wrote:If we're talking about dream scenarios, why would Mike Brown be our guy?


How is acquiring Walsh or Pritchard a dream? Both seem like logical candidates, there is nothing out of the ordinary with them that would elevate hiring them as a dream come true.

Also, Simon already said that one of Bird's options could involve him advising from his home in Florida.

Finally, the Pacers organization likes Mike Brown. He was here when our team was a contender, and we liked him then. He obviously has to get some credit in Cleveland too. The fact he was able to coach that roster to elite status was a remarkable job. I don't think the 44 game downswing can all be accredited to Lebron leaving. My point is galvanized by the fact the Heat can only muster 55 wins with their all-star trio. What might have happened if Wade and Bosh joined the 2009 Cavs that made a run at Jordan's Bulls & won 67 games? Even when the Bulls lost Jordan for a couple seasons, they didn't sink 44 games in the standings.

Did I sell you on Mike Brown?

Didn't those Bulls have some other dude that was pretty good during those years??? I would like Mike Brown as well, but your argument is invalid.

I think "dream" was used to describe how pleased they would be if Brown/Walsh/Pritchard/etc. were hired rather than the likelihood or probability.
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Post#53 » by Scoot McGroot » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:27 pm

Boneman2 wrote:Finally, the Pacers organization likes Mike Brown. He was here when our team was a contender, and we liked him then. He obviously has to get some credit in Cleveland too. The fact he was able to coach that roster to elite status was a remarkable job. I don't think the 44 game downswing can all be accredited to Lebron leaving. My point is galvanized by the fact the Heat can only muster 55 wins with their all-star trio. What might have happened if Wade and Bosh joined the 2009 Cavs that made a run at Jordan's Bulls & won 67 games? Even when the Bulls lost Jordan for a couple seasons, they didn't sink 44 games in the standings.


I love Mike Brown and would be VERY satisfied with him getting the head nod.

However, let's not assign him too much value for the Cleveland issues, positive or negative. Those teams were built ENTIRELY around Lebron. However, once Lebron leaves, and Zydrunas is too old, and you trade away almost every 1st round pick for a decade, you simply have a roster that's not built to win with Christian Eyenga subbed in for Lebron. Sinking 44 games may not be ALL Lebron, but it's certainly at least 40 of those 44 games. Danny Ferry is responsible for that too, the way he mortgaged any and all future to build a limited team specifically around Lebron's talents and tendencies.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#54 » by Boneman2 » Mon Apr 11, 2011 8:12 pm

I understand the argument for not giving Mike Brown too much credit, but to his credit, Lebron's impact on the Heat has only led to 9 more victories than last season, and that's not mentioning Bosh.

We're talking a 44 game swing from last season for the Cavs, and I think Brown is a big reason for the downturn.
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Re: Your ideal coach 

Post#55 » by Scoot McGroot » Mon Apr 11, 2011 10:03 pm

Boneman2 wrote:I understand the argument for not giving Mike Brown too much credit, but to his credit, Lebron's impact on the Heat has only led to 9 more victories than last season, and that's not mentioning Bosh.

We're talking a 44 game swing from last season for the Cavs, and I think Brown is a big reason for the downturn.


Well, it's hard to add 44 wins to a 47 win team (Miami). My math may be a little shaky, but that seems unpossible. Adding LeBron and Chris Bosh to a team that already had Dwyane Wade is one thing. Taking LeBron from a team that has.....JJ Hickson? Antawn Jamison? Don't forget that even Mo Williams was injured most of the season as well.


I'm not trying to remove the impact of Mike Brown. The guy can coach team defense like nobody's business. Did he help win 5-10 games? Yeah. Did he also hurt the team in the playoffs and keep them from a possible championship 2 seasons? Yeah, he did.

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