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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#21 » by DougInOz » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:45 am

If we want a backup PG because we think despite AJ and Lance it is a need, I hope we consider Michigans Darius Morris (cornrows covered him today). Good size, has spent at least a full year running a team and seemed to adapt well to the change, and we can most likely get him with an early 2nd round pick (which would have to be acquired).
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#22 » by 8305 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:28 pm

Boneman2 wrote:Is Jimmer the next Hoiberg?

The 'Mayor was a known marksman, but couldn't contribute much of anything else.

Jimmer is a pretty stout 6'2" and seems a little tougher than most of these other prolific scorers, with limited athletic ability, that seem to thrive in the NCAA.

Again, if he is going to be effective, he will have to be a 1. There is no way you can cover up for him on defense if he is a 2. Also, I dread the thougt of a Jimmer/Darren backcourt. Although, if Lance is on the floor with Jimmer it could wash

Drafting a b/u pg with our 1st pick satisfies none of our needs. It's like 3rd on the list of roster priorities. If we needed a 1, who knows, I might see things totally different.

Small: Burks/Brooks/Selby -------------------- Big: Biyambo/Thompson ( I'd be happy with any of these selections).


I can't say with any level of conviction that Burks, Brooks, Selby, Biyambo or Thompson will be better NBA players than Jimmer. Watching Dallas play I'm intrigued by what Jason Terry is able to do. First and foremost Terry is cold blooded shooter. Jimmer looks like he might be able to be that kind of scorer. We could use that.

Yeah, that Jimmer/Darren backcourt could be nightmare defensively but, look how many minutes Dallas gets out of Terry and Berrea.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#23 » by Pacerlive » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:29 pm

Boneman2 wrote:Is Jimmer the next Hoiberg?

The 'Mayor was a known marksman, but couldn't contribute much of anything else.

Jimmer is a pretty stout 6'2" and seems a little tougher than most of these other prolific scorers, with limited athletic ability, that seem to thrive in the NCAA.

Again, if he is going to be effective, he will have to be a 1. There is no way you can cover up for him on defense if he is a 2. Also, I dread the thougt of a Jimmer/Darren backcourt. Although, if Lance is on the floor with Jimmer it could wash

Drafting a b/u pg with our 1st pick satisfies none of our needs. It's like 3rd on the list of roster priorities. If we needed a 1, who knows, I might see things totally different.

Small: Burks/Brooks/Selby -------------------- Big: Biyambo/Thompson ( I'd be happy with any of these selections).

You will have the same defenisve problems with Selby and Collison both IMO are not ideal. The bottom line is this if we draft Jimmer than he is a 6th man off the bench which is very valueable as we see in the finals. Defensively Jimmer may be limited but to be honest I don't know if anyone has expected Jimmer to play defense in college. I think defensively he can be a lot better given time and more expectation.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#24 » by paulgeorge24 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:46 pm

8305 wrote:
Boneman2 wrote:Is Jimmer the next Hoiberg?

The 'Mayor was a known marksman, but couldn't contribute much of anything else.

Jimmer is a pretty stout 6'2" and seems a little tougher than most of these other prolific scorers, with limited athletic ability, that seem to thrive in the NCAA.

Again, if he is going to be effective, he will have to be a 1. There is no way you can cover up for him on defense if he is a 2. Also, I dread the thougt of a Jimmer/Darren backcourt. Although, if Lance is on the floor with Jimmer it could wash

Drafting a b/u pg with our 1st pick satisfies none of our needs. It's like 3rd on the list of roster priorities. If we needed a 1, who knows, I might see things totally different.

Small: Burks/Brooks/Selby -------------------- Big: Biyambo/Thompson ( I'd be happy with any of these selections).


I can't say with any level of conviction that Burks, Brooks, Selby, Biyambo or Thompson will be better NBA players than Jimmer. Watching Dallas play I'm intrigued by what Jason Terry is able to do. First and foremost Terry is cold blooded shooter. Jimmer looks like he might be able to be that kind of scorer. We could use that.

Yeah, that Jimmer/Darren backcourt could be nightmare defensively but, look how many minutes Dallas gets out of Terry and Berrea.

Well then, you're beyond saving if you dont think any of those guys listed will be better than Jimmer (Not to mention, all of their ceilings are much much higher). And seriously, Terry and Jimmer? Not even close to being the same players.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#25 » by Scoot McGroot » Fri Jun 10, 2011 9:39 pm

8305 wrote:
Boneman2 wrote:Is Jimmer the next Hoiberg?

The 'Mayor was a known marksman, but couldn't contribute much of anything else.

Jimmer is a pretty stout 6'2" and seems a little tougher than most of these other prolific scorers, with limited athletic ability, that seem to thrive in the NCAA.

Again, if he is going to be effective, he will have to be a 1. There is no way you can cover up for him on defense if he is a 2. Also, I dread the thougt of a Jimmer/Darren backcourt. Although, if Lance is on the floor with Jimmer it could wash

Drafting a b/u pg with our 1st pick satisfies none of our needs. It's like 3rd on the list of roster priorities. If we needed a 1, who knows, I might see things totally different.

Small: Burks/Brooks/Selby -------------------- Big: Biyambo/Thompson ( I'd be happy with any of these selections).


I can't say with any level of conviction that Burks, Brooks, Selby, Biyambo or Thompson will be better NBA players than Jimmer. Watching Dallas play I'm intrigued by what Jason Terry is able to do. First and foremost Terry is cold blooded shooter. Jimmer looks like he might be able to be that kind of scorer. We could use that.

Yeah, that Jimmer/Darren backcourt could be nightmare defensively but, look how many minutes Dallas gets out of Terry and Berrea.


Terry was an actual PG in college and in the NBA before he aged into a "combo guard" role. Jimmer really hasn't had to be an actual PG yet, even if he has had to handle some PG duties at times.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#26 » by Indy2thaWindy » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:29 pm

Terry was a beast on the Hawks and is still fast. It's a bad comparison. Jimmer won't be able to create for himself or others in the NBA. Terry can.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#27 » by PR07 » Fri Jun 10, 2011 11:41 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:Terry was a beast on the Hawks and is still fast. It's a bad comparison. Jimmer won't be able to create for himself or others in the NBA. Terry can.


I don't see how he won't be able to create for himself. He's much better than guys like Redick and Morrison at attacking the rim.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#28 » by Indy2thaWindy » Sat Jun 11, 2011 12:37 am

PR07 wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote:Terry was a beast on the Hawks and is still fast. It's a bad comparison. Jimmer won't be able to create for himself or others in the NBA. Terry can.


I don't see how he won't be able to create for himself. He's much better than guys like Redick and Morrison at attacking the rim.


In College where the Power Forward is 6'5, the Center is 6'7 with an 11" vertical, and he's twice as athletic as the person he's breaking down off the dribble. Yeah, I'll say he was pretty successful at that level. He'll get killed in the NBA tho. I'm not even worried. Me and my main man Bird think a like. He's not gonna draft Jimmer.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#29 » by 8305 » Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:10 pm

Indy2thaWindy wrote:
PR07 wrote:
Indy2thaWindy wrote:Terry was a beast on the Hawks and is still fast. It's a bad comparison. Jimmer won't be able to create for himself or others in the NBA. Terry can.


I don't see how he won't be able to create for himself. He's much better than guys like Redick and Morrison at attacking the rim.


In College where the Power Forward is 6'5, the Center is 6'7 with an 11" vertical, and he's twice as athletic as the person he's breaking down off the dribble. Yeah, I'll say he was pretty successful at that level. He'll get killed in the NBA tho. I'm not even worried. Me and my main man Bird think a like. He's not gonna draft Jimmer.


I'll agree with you to the extent that no one has three weeks out predicted what Larry's going to do on draft day. And, sure the competition level is college is lower and that's the question you face with all these guys, will the things they do translate to the NBA? You may be right that Jimmer's scoring won't translate to the NBA. A lot of people said the same thing about Steph Curry. Then the work outs started and Steph sold himself. Wonder if Jimmer is doing the same now. Looks like Brandon Knight wants no part of working out against him.
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Re: Fredette Not a Good Fit for Pacers? 

Post#30 » by basketballwacko2 » Thu Jun 16, 2011 8:00 pm

Looks like Jimmer is doing well in workouts we may not get a shot a picking him, the guy is a scoring machine and looks to be a better athlete than some of the guys he has been compared to such as Steve Alford. Checkout the article on the wiretap about his workout with Kimba Walker. 8-)

Kemba Walker, who pulled out of a potential matchup with Jimmer Fredette in Sacramento last week, left impressed after playing against BYU's star for the first time.

"Jimmer's a great player," Walker said. "I absolutely think he could play the point guard position on the next level, and today he definitely showed that. Him scoring is just a plus. He made some pretty impressive passes as well. I think he'll be great."



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1PTEz5Qad

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