Question? Trade up, trade down or Pick at 15?

[TheLoneGranger]

I really don't think that the Pacers should look to move up, unless it's to get that #2 pick to get Williams. If we don't do anything, I wouldn't be too upset either. That being said, trading down might be the best move. Move down a few slots, and make someone over pay to move up for a guy like Jimmer. Get a future first and another piece or something like that. I think trading down makes the most sense for the Pacers. It's either that or sitting still and taking the best player available.

[basketballwacko2]

would the Bobs deal the 9th pick to unload that 2nd yr of Diops contract?

No, maybe 19.

if i was jordan i would trade Diop and Matt Carrol and #9 for #15

But that's not what I was offering if I'm taking Diop and Carroll and the 9th pick for Posey and Rush maybe but have to think about it. If you want the 15th pick I'm gonna want the 19th or a future pick.

[Scoot McGroot]

I'm in favor of trading down if it can be done Chicago has 2 picks 28 and 30, could we get them for our #15 if so we could take Nolan Smith of Duke and J. Johnson of Purdue. On the other hand I've thought of trading up what about the Bobs at #9, would they be willing to do a deal of #15 and Posey for the #9 and Matt Carroll? We'd be taking on an attional year of Carroll is the move up worth taking on that 2nd year.

I think it depends on whether Birds guy is there at 15, because we know Larry will pick the guy he wants and I'm ok with that Bird was right about Tyler and George.

Also it would have to be Matt Carroll and Edjuardo Najera for Posey. Need to make the numbers line up.

Hmm? The numbers match up closer with Diop instead of Najera and Carroll. Charlotte would take on more salary this year by swapping Carroll/Najera for Posey instead of Diop for Posey. Don't get me wrong, I think I'd rather only be stuck with Carroll's $3.5 million for an extra year and have Najera expire than to take on over $7 million in Diop for an additional year. I don't know, maybe if they'd swap Brandon Rush for DJ White? That'd give us a relatively full front line at that point, as well as giving a defined swingman rotation with George and Granger backed up by Dahntay and Lance, as well as whomever we draft at #15 or #19.


I don't know if I'd take on either of those packages for the #19 pick. Where could a combo of #15 and #19 land us? Top 10?

[basketballwacko2]

Posey and Rush for Carroll, Najera, DJ White and the 19th. Package the 15th and the 19th to Sacto for the #7 take Kemba Walker.

[Scoot McGroot]

Posey and Rush for Carroll, Najera, DJ White and the 19th. Package the 15th and the 19th to Sacto for the #7 take Kemba Walker.

So do you then look to move Collison? For a pick? For a player?

[basketballwacko2]

No keep them both use Walker at back up PG and a bit at 2 gaurd for 2 yrs or so.

[Indy2thaWindy]

No keep them both use Walker at back up PG and a bit at 2 gaurd for 2 yrs or so.

Walker is better than Collison right now. JOB doesn't coach here anymore. I hope I never see a two point guard lineup ever again.

[Boneman2]

Vogel used Collison and Price together a couple times, but eventually got away from that awful concept alltogether. I think it is a tactic designed to run out the clock, or to penetrate zone defenses. At the minimum you should expect a lot of precise ball movement with 2 pg's. Other than that it is a worthless strategy in the NBA, better suited for Europe and the NCAA, where ball movement is critical, and team defense (zone) trumps one-on-one matchups.

[basketballwacko2]

Well if Walker wins the Job at PG then we start him and I would think Collison would be a valuable trade item.

[nets4nets]

Posey and Rush for Carroll, Najera, DJ White and the 19th. Package the 15th and the 19th to Sacto for the #7 take Kemba Walker.

we already have a version of Kemba Walker in Darren they are very very similar players


BTW 15th and 19th will not be enough to move that far up.

[Moooose]

I'd grab Marshon Brooks at the 15th straight up, but i'd like us to acquire another pick in the late 1st to use on big guys like Jeremy Tyler, JaJuan Johnson, or Nikola Vucevic.

[Wizop]

Brooks, Klay, Jimmer ... I'd take any at 15. if Biyombo is there I'd worry about why. I'm with Moose on trying to get a big lower in the first and I like all three of his names with Tyler being my first choice. I had the same reaction to the interview as Bruno did. I was expecting to hear a kid who went pro early to avoid academics and instead I heard a well spoken young man who had perhaps made a very smart choice by floundering against men instead of going unchallenged in high school.

[basketballwacko2]

Posey and Rush for Carroll, Najera, DJ White and the 19th. Package the 15th and the 19th to Sacto for the #7 take Kemba Walker.

we already have a version of Kemba Walker in Darren they are very very similar players


BTW 15th and 19th will not be enough to move that far up.

If I could trade the 2 picks an get Walker I'd do that, but we might be better off if we just took two guys because the diff between 10 and 20 in this draft is small. You have 2 shots at getting a good player rather than only one, I think Walker could be worth the risk but don't see another player in the 8 to 14 range that says "get that guy" to me.

[Boneman2]

According to the experts a TSN "Sportingnews" we should take:

15. Indiana. Shelvin Mack, PG, Butler. The Pacers badly need a backup point guard and local-hero Mack will be among the best available.

This is exactly why I don't read TSN. A lot of Mocks have him available in the 2nd, yet they have us selecting him @ 15. If we really need a pg, which we don't, I'd select the Michigan kid or R.Jackson over him.

[Scoot McGroot]

According to the experts a TSN "Sportingnews" we should take:

15. Indiana. Shelvin Mack, PG, Butler. The Pacers badly need a backup point guard and local-hero Mack will be among the best available.

This is exactly why I don't read TSN. A lot of Mocks have him available in the 2nd, yet they have us selecting him @ 15. If we really need a pg, which we don't, I'd select the Michigan kid or R.Jackson over him.

Yeah, I think Mack will be a solid pick at the end of the 1st. If San Antonio didn't already have Indy product George Hill, I would mark them as a solid destination for Shelvin Mack. Boston (if they keep their pick), New Jersey (where Farmar is the backup), and Chicago (where he could be a great backup when Derrick Rose is resting, and they have 2 picks at the end of the 1st) would be great spots, as well as Miami with the 31st pick. Those would all be GREAT landing spots for Mack.

[paulgeorge24]

We're not getting Kemba. I wish we would because its true he is alot better than Collison already, but its not happening. Doubt he's even on Bird's radar but we'll c. I'd love to be surprised.